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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:20 AM
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Vt. high school dress code now bans pajamas
Vt. high school dress code now bans pajamas


BENNINGTON, Vt. — A Vermont high school is putting an end to the pajama party.

The revised dress code at Bennington’s Mount Anthony Union High school now prohibits pajamas and slippers.

Associate Principal David Beriau said too many students were coming to school wearing night clothes.

"It’s a safety hazard, certainly with slippers, and it also says something to the work ethic," Beriau said. "Like anything else, if you get yourself into a mental state about something you’re going to be more prepared to work, and if you come to school in pajamas you’re prepared for something else."

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/national/northeast/view/20110726vt_high_school_dress_code_now_bans_pajamas/srvc=home&position=recent
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:21 AM
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1. good for them
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 11:15 AM
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41. Fashion trumps education! nt
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:22 AM
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2. our schools did this a couple years ago. principal stands at door and send all home
that roll out of bed and come to school in jammies

i am ok with that
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:23 AM
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4. I never realized it was a problem :) I don't remember any kids coming to school like that
Of course back in the 70's and early 80's what some were wearing were akin to pajamas anyway ;)
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:27 AM
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8. yup. nt
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:58 AM
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25. oh it's a big problem, i see it all over new orleans
and it's spreading, one of my friends -- who is 60 - wore pajamas to a party

i've also seen them worn in the casino

sooooo tacky

no one wore pajamas in the 70s and 80s, i don't think they were even being manufactured then, you wouldn't have worn them even to sleep in -- nor did anyone wear anything "akin" to pajamas, in those days, when young people were still slender, we preferred to wear skin and body revealing clothing, because we had bodies to show off -- the 70s in particular were the days of the shorts so short that the bottom curve of our ass cheeks hung out and the tube tops, it was a different time and young women were not into "frumpy" cover-ups the way they are now that so many young people are chubby or fat

not sure when PJs started coming back but i'll say maybe 5 years ago?

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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 10:14 AM
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33. What gets me are the folks who wear PJs to the store
hello, something wrong with jeans & a t shirt? I mean, I know everything's covered, but really, PJs in the grocery store?

dg
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:22 AM
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3. Sounds reasonable to me
What is the point of your posting this? You don't say whether you agree or disagree with the school rule.

If I were a principal, I think I'd have that in the dress code as well.
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:23 AM
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5. Who wears pajamas to school?
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:26 AM
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7. lots of young people wear their jammies instead of regular clothes. it's
wierd to see people walking around the grocery store and places like that in bedclothes.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 10:05 AM
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31. I was wondering about that
because every once in awhile at the movies or in a mall i'll see it as well, too
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:45 AM
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17. ...
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:25 AM
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6. It just makes sleeping during class more obvious.
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:31 AM
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9. About time
If you leave your house wearing your night cloths you ought to be ashamed of yourself.

Now if they could only do something about pants down around peoples knees.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:33 AM
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10. Good for them. We banned them at our school years ago.
It was becoming a huge problem... especially the slippers. Students were having books and other heavy objects fall on their feet (and consequently getting hurt).

Pajamas and slippers are for bedtime or home. They are not appropriate for school. You wouldn't show up to your job in pajamas.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:36 AM
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13. "You wouldn't show up to your job in pajamas"

I guess that would depend on the job, no?
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:59 AM
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26. True. But most professional jobs require at least business casual attire. n/t
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 10:59 AM
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39. They've been worn in the Senate
Is Senator wandering around office buildings clad only in his jammies?

According to some staffers, a Republican Senator has been wandering around the Senate office buildings in his pajamas, Roll Call reports.

"We had a number of reports Friday that Sen. Pete Domenici (R-N.M.) was wandering the halls of Senate office buildings in his jammies," Mary Ann Akers writes. "Two staffers said they saw the Senator wearing 'tartan' or 'buffalo plaid' pajama bottoms and a 'loose-fitting shirt.' By the end of the day, one informant called to say she heard Domenici was walking around in his boxers."

But Domenici told Roll Call the pajama bottoms were actually hunting pants.

(snip)

He explained he wears the hunting pants around the house and if he leaves to go to the office, "I don't necessarily take them off."

They're comfy, and they're fun, he said. "People stop me to talk about them. They're Christmasy, they're black and white."

more…
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Is_Senator_wandering_around_office_buildings_1204.html

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2855472


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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:41 AM
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15. When I was working P/T at a movie theater there were a couple girls
who regularly showed up in their flannel PJs for work. Once they got inside they changed into their uniforms.

I never saw anything to object to - but I kept hoping.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:35 AM
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11. People are some lazy motherfuckers these days. nt
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:35 AM
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12. Is it common for kids to come to school in pyjamas?
It doesn't happen in English schools to my knowledge. Other strange fashions, but not night clothes.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:53 AM
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21. A fad
the subterranean message it sends is of course-- we are cool and not too serious about school.

I think it got started in laid-back universities where students would get up late, put jackets over their pjs and go from the dorm to classes. Nobody cared. But the fashion industry has also promoted it.

Just my 2 cents.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 10:03 AM
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29. it's a fad in the south and not just kids/school
Edited on Wed Jul-27-11 10:04 AM by pitohui
pajamas are like $10 for a new pair of pajamas at walmart and even a fat slob can wear them, so it's cheap clothing

it follows the still popular fad of the cheap flip-flops, which was supposedly inspired by prison/gang stuff but instead looks suspiciously to me like you're wearing a $3 pair of flip-flops just like some rural poor person in the third world

it may be partly a way of making a virtue of poverty

my older friend who showed up at the party in pajamas is pretty much penniless, maybe it's her way of dressing in a witty fashion on no money

even i have succumbed to the lure of the 99 cent flip-flops, i'm afraid, and i have once worn pajama bottoms to a fine restaurant, sigh, so i guess the borg has me!!!

it's just cheap, cheap, cheap, and cheap becomes hard to resist if people are also telling you that it's young and cool
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 10:56 AM
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38. it's about as stupid as owling and will be over by Thanksgiving
kids/people really aren't that creative these days...

:eyes:
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:40 AM
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14. It's hard to believe that schools have to revise their dress code for pajamas.
I can only imagine the reaction if they were to enforce the same dress codes that we had back in the 60's.
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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:44 AM
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16. I'm sorry, but the fact you have to even make a rule like that
is just sad. I know I'm going to sound like the old man here, but these kids ARE LAZY....EXTREMELY LAZY. If you have to be told to not wear PJs other than to bed, .....well, I don't hold out much hope for you or my retirement in this country. I'm surprised they bother to expend the energy to feed themselves or get out of their own filth.....I'm sure if they wait around long enough their parents or somebody else will chew food for them and shove it down their lazy, overweight, obese throats.

sheesh!
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MadinMo Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:49 AM
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18. Good.
Edited on Wed Jul-27-11 09:51 AM by MadinMo
Can we ban them at the grocery store too? And fuzzy slippers?
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Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:51 AM
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19. Our public schools require uniforms
Parents love it. No more battles with their teens about what is appropriate. No fashion wars.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:52 AM
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20. ya... but then when kids wore uniform, i spent more money than tshirt and jeans....
Edited on Wed Jul-27-11 09:53 AM by seabeyond
not into uniform, but believe a parent should do their job teaching/insisting kid dress appropriately

edit... i might think differently if i had two girls rather than two boys. boys clothes much cheaper
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Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 10:04 AM
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30. The uniforms aren't like at private schools
They're reasonably priced for most parents, and there are programs to provide for low-income families.

This is a poor part of the country, yet it still works here.

But I'll grant you, it can't be as cheap as tee shirts.
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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:53 AM
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22. I'm dumbfounded they had to make this a rule to begin with.
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avebury Donating Member (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:57 AM
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23. It is amazing that people would wear PJs to school. That would
not have flown when I was in school. They had to fight just to let girls wear slacks and it was only common sense that won out because I lived in a northern state with harsh winters. My sister had to deal with the fight for girls to wear slacks and by the time that I was in Jr. High the battle was finally won.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:58 AM
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24. Hey, if it's good enough for Wal-Mart...
:evilgrin:
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 10:02 AM
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27. Wow...If my parents saw me leaving for school in pajamas
1. unmerciful beatdown
2. grounded

If I even thought of it or brought it up in conversation again:

3. Shipped off to some military academy upstate...
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 10:02 AM
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28. Lazy ass bastards!
Good!
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 10:05 AM
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32. Huh. I wonder if these would be BANNED:
https://www.pajamajeans.com/

Man, I freaking hope so.... if I have to see this infomercial one more time, I think I might kick in my TV.

Seriously - who comes up with this stuff?

RR
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 11:26 AM
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45. ok, i confess i saw a girl in those and she was pretty freakin' HAWT
but on second thought I guess she would have been beautiful wearing a burkha
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 10:18 AM
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34. I say congratulations! The kids thought of something new, harmless, and offensive to adults
Why don't we just pass a single law saying that they all have to behave exactly like each other, no matter what that consists of? This same stupid debate has been going on since the 50s. As long as our culture tells youth that they don't belong, that they have, and deserve, no power in society, then they will behave in such a way as to make visible their not-belonging. And with pajamas, unlike the falling-down pants, they can find literary and media models all the way back through the century indicating that pajamas are eccentric but acceptable.

And the idea that kids should wear shoes strong enough to protect them from heavy weights dropped on their feet (presumably steel-toed work boots) is just silly. It would rule out, not only slippers, but sneakers of all kinds, most dress shoes, all sandals, and nearly all existing women's footwear - EXCEPT work boots. Do we really want all our students to wear jackboots? That seems to be carrying "school uniforms" a bit far.

I suspect that pajamas are a covert, and correct, critique of the quality of education, and life, available to them.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 10:20 AM
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35. along with what you say... creating boundaries and lines is the important role of the adult
so children can learn that there are rules to follow and boundaries that should not be crossed without a repercusion.

so while the kids do as they should, the adults are doing as they should, calling the kids on it so children can learn responsibility
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 10:27 AM
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36. Much like Members Only jackets and feathered hair was...
"are a covert, and correct, critique of the quality of education, and life, available to them..."

Much like Members Only jackets and feathered hair was in the 80's; or (and I find this alternative a wee bit more likely) simply a marketing trend via our friends on Madison Avenue designed to get even the poorest consumers to shell out money for the irrelevant to better allow validation amongst one's peers and self-identification based solely on clothing...?
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 11:00 AM
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40. Oh boo hoo hoo........ American teenagers have such an awful "quality of life" they have to wear
pajamas.

Fucking please.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 10:37 AM
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37. What are "pajamas"? What if kids sleep in tshirts and undies? Nude sleepers?
What if "pajamas" become worn normally during the day? Do they become day-clothes rather than night clothes? Anyone remember the whoohaw when girls started wearing pants to school, and anyone wore denim jeans?

I can see wanting appropriate footwear, but then you have to ban flipflops, sandals, high heels, shoes without laces, crocs, etc.

Work ethic, guess they will start kicking people out with wrinkled clothing since that shows they have a wrinkled mental state and don't care to learn?
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 11:16 AM
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42. We all know fashion is more important than education.
Sarcasm.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 11:19 AM
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43. I guess I haven't any real problem with this.
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 11:20 AM
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44. This sounds perfectly reasonable and sane to me
and I usually am foursquare against "dress codes" being a child of the 1970s.
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