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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 04:21 PM
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I was talking to my 83 year old father (who lives in GA) on the phone the other day and he said:
"The problem with America today is that the Republicans hate -- truly hate -- their President more than they love their country. And they will run this country into the ground to prove it."

I think that pretty much sums it up.
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 04:22 PM
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1. It certainly looks more and more like that may be true.
Your father is a wise man.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 08:19 PM
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23. your dad is a sage. hug him for me.
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 06:44 AM
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62. The Repubs are terrified of Obama.
Edited on Tue Jul-26-11 06:44 AM by Dulcinea
If he succeeds, the old white guys will be out of power forever. And they'll tear this country apart to keep their hold on power.
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AnnieK401 Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 07:22 AM
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68. Exactly
Couldn't agree more! They've done and said everything they could think of to bring him down, not even caring what it does to the country.
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watercolors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 04:24 PM
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2. The man gets it, exactly right on!!
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Sportsguy Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 04:38 PM
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11. Seconded!
:)
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 11:45 PM
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32. IT IS SIMPLY THE FACT THAT THEY CAN'T STAND ANOTHER SMART DEM
Edited on Mon Jul-25-11 11:46 PM by HowHasItComeToThis
:spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank:
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:52 AM
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44. Close... they also can't stand a smart black man.
The 'Club' just doesn't feel the same anymore.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 10:00 AM
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81. Absolutely. n/t
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 11:20 AM
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86. BINGO.
It's too bad they have to see things in those terms instead of seeing President Obama as the president we needed after twelve years of rightwing overspending and borrowing.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 11:56 AM
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90. no, that's not it...
look at the words they use to describe him. Look at headlines, like what Fox put out there, that say "Obama's has a problem with white women". It is 90% race, 10% dem.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 04:24 PM
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3. Your father is a wise man.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 04:24 PM
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4. Distilled to their essence. Hate.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 04:27 PM
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5. Wow -- he nailed it! Give him an across-the-miles hug! nt
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Lifelong Protester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 04:30 PM
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6. My husband, 81, says the same thing. He's a 'recovering' rep.
Edited on Mon Jul-25-11 04:30 PM by Lifelong Protester
went Dem in '88 when he voted for Dukakis. Wow, the things folks will do for love, eh? (We were married shortly after that election).
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 04:30 PM
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7. Well said! I also think they hate poor people and liberals more than they love their country.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:49 AM
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42. I've seen that a LOT
Comments sections in media are infested with the haters. I've also seen how 'conservative' message boards are dominated by racists who deny being racists. They despise poor people, blacks and women.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 06:51 AM
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65. They also despise immigrants, Muslims, and Hispanics.
And Jews and Democrats and progressives and atheists and academics and scientists and of course the French. Basically, they despise everyone except rich white straight Christian males.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 08:22 AM
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72. they will be very sorry as they become a minority. i guess that's why all the redistricting
and voter id laws. to keep their hold on power. but there will be pushback and they will be outnumbered. then they will be relegated to minority. and they fear what that means, because they know what they have done to everyone else and fear it being done to them.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 09:56 AM
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79. Very true - they are using every tool to hold their top-of-the-mountain status...
But will soon be too outnumbered to retain power - which is why corporations are grabbing all the power they can, purchasing Congress and the Supreme Court, stealing the WH and ending Democracy in America.
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 11:52 AM
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89. actually I thought repugs hated the country before this
selecting someone like Little Boots who basically shoveled the treasury to his war profiteering friends while watching our infrastructure crumble, and out a network monitoring WMD, maybe so you're own "intelligence" forces could make crap up and reading a PDB report and basically doing nothing. I'd say there are some in the repug party that hold allegiance to some "too big to fail" global corporations over any allegiance to the country, the constitution or its' people.:shrug:

Of course, they can spend millions to PR industry to help sell a bogus war, putting our soldiers needlessly in harms way-"catapult the propaganda" with a complicit media to "SELL' that "god and country" to the plebes while their corporate friends make even more money off of our fear, selling duct tape to tape up your house, selling made in china american flags to wave on your car, and stashing cans of tuna under the bed (oh wait, tuna has more mercury, better make it sardines).
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pauljulian Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 02:06 PM
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100. And Muslims
And Pagans and... well, as you said, everyone "not quite like them."
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 04:30 PM
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8. Give your dad a hug from me. nt
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Roselma Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 04:30 PM
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9. With age comes wisdom. I think your father is correct.
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 04:34 PM
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10. smart guy, your dad. n/t
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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 04:39 PM
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12. Sad, but true. nt
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 04:42 PM
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13. Republicans no longer recognize the legitimacy of Democratic Presidents.
and haven't since Clinton was in office. The do not recognize that Democrats can legitmately govern.
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Abq_Sarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 05:03 PM
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17. Are we any different?
Hyperpartisanship isn't new.
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 05:06 PM
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18. Only when they don't steal elections.
Edited on Mon Jul-25-11 05:07 PM by GoneOffShore
Then we are the "loyal opposition".

Republicans, never. Not since Reagan.
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:01 AM
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34. Actually, yes
As far as I was concerned, Bush was President. An idiot, and he may have stolen the election, but still President.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 02:37 AM
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51. I've never called bu$h President
precisely because he did steal the freaking election.
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pauljulian Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 02:10 PM
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101. I remember in the Army
Our CO was a complete suckup to higher-ups and a complete asshole to everyone else in our unit.

It was a struggle, but we always remember to salute the bars on his collar. His position required at least a minimum of military respect... but I can't think of any person in our unit that ever saluted the man.

Same principle.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 01:15 AM
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119. It's not the same principle
If you're in the Army, that means you have joined willingly and you are REQUIRED to defer to your "superiors". But once you leave the Army, they have no authority whatsoever over you, even if they are still a CO or whatever. You can flip them off, tell them to take a flying leap, and there's nothing they can do to you.

However, the USA is not supposed to be a dictatorship. We in the civilian world are not required to show deference to "Fearless Leader", especially if said "leader" has stolen his way into office.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 05:46 AM
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56. Absolutely - they have bought their BS 100 percent ...
I know people want to make it about race with BO, and certainly they race bait at every opportunity, but it would not matter what color or gender, a D president would face the same kind of nonsense that BO is facing.

They know people have short memories, and the Kyl statement about how Clinton worked with them, but BO won't is just bizarre. People forget what the 90s were like, the hounded Clinton to no fricken end - they accused him of being a drug dealer and of murdering Vince Foster. They spent 10s of millions of dollars investigating the white house, including the fan mail to the fricken pet cat Socks, and that is not hyperbole.

The bottom line is that they have been spewing the same distorted BS for nearly three decades now - liberals hate america, conservatives truly love america ... There are people in congress now who are have been FULLY indoctrinated with that stuff their whole adult lives.

The party has become a twisted marketing entity that enables the complete freeing of any personal responsibility or intellectual honesty.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 06:53 AM
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66. It's worse than a "twisted marketing entity", though.
Today's republican party is a religious cult underpinned by a criminal enterprise. Kind of like a Mafia Church, I guess.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 08:46 AM
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74. They also didn't when Carter was president. nt
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LuvNewcastle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 04:44 PM
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14. I've wondered since 2008 if Obama foresaw
how divisive his Presidency would be. He began his candidacy with references to Lincoln and many people were just about ready to secede as soon as he was elected. There have probably been more threats against his life than any other President besides Lincoln. If he wins in 2012, I think this country might just come apart at the seams.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 04:56 PM
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16. Blame it on the Republican Strategists and the Cable media. They manufactured
and cultivated the divisiveness.
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LuvNewcastle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 06:26 PM
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22. I blame it mostly on racism.
The results of the election had barely come in before the death threats began to roll in. While Fox and others deserve plenty of blame for all the divisiveness in this country, they didn't have to try too hard to get their viewers to hate Obama. They just exploited attitudes that were already present.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:22 AM
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39. Long before then!
Way way early in the campaign, he and his family got Secret Service protection earlier in the process than any other Presidential candidate in history. It was deemed necessary because the volume of threats he was receiving long before it even became clear that he might win.


The reasons are as clear as the color of his face. This country is still full of violent racism, no doubt about it.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 04:54 PM
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15. I don't think they even love their country any more. All they have left is their hate.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 05:19 PM
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19. Golda Meir said a similar thing
Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us.

Statement to the National Press Club in Washington, D. C. in 1957, as quoted in A Land of Our Own : An Oral Autobiography (1973) edited by Marie Syrkin, p. 242
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 05:31 PM
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20. Senator Turtle essentially said the same thing
Mitch McConnell said the most important thing he can do is keep President Obama from being elected.
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reformist2 Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 05:41 PM
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21. Has anyone seen Al Sharpton's interviews with Tea Party freshmen? Wow
Edited on Mon Jul-25-11 05:42 PM by reformist2
I'm not quick to call people racist, but the contempt some of these guys had for Al Sharpton was palpable. The smirking, the sneering, the condescension in their voices. I really hate to say it, but they were acting like a lot of Southern whites did back in the 50s and 60s.
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kittykitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 08:24 PM
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24. Your father is brilliant! May I quote him?
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 08:56 PM
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26. I think he would be flattered if you did. n/t
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 08:26 PM
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25. And that true hatred is because he's an African American.
There is no other reason they are doing this. They will NEVER get over the fact they have an African American President. It makes their blood boil and they foam at the mouth just thinking about it. They are PURE EVIL.
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jaxblueman Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 11:35 PM
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29. African American President
in_cog_ni_to hit it right on the head.

One of the biggest misconceptions in this Country is that Obama's election in 2008, was an indication that America had finally gotten over it's bigotry. Nothing could be further from the truth. Actually, Obama received fewer white votes in the South in 2008, than Kerry did in 2004. He didn't win because he won over any of the rednecks in Dixie. He won because he fired up the young and educated throughout the rest of the Country.

I'm a middle aged white man living in the deep South. (Jacksonville FL) I guess most of the Gomers around here take it for granted that because I'm white, and male, and middle aged, that I must think just like they do. So, they often times feel safe making comments to me, that they would never think of making in public, or to an African American. Based on the many comments that I have hear in the past 3 years, I can say with absolute certainty that bigotry is alive and well in the South. If anything, the election of Obama has only served to embolden these ignorant rednecks.

Sometimes I think that the Country would have been better off in the long run if we had simply let the South go, in 1861. Those States have been an albatross around this Country's neck, ever since. Their insistence on "States Rights" as a justification for bigotry, ignorance, discrimination, and religious fanaticism, continues to keep this Country from reaching it's true potential.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 02:58 PM
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105. Welcome to DU!
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 03:06 PM
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107. Dude!
"I guess most of the Gomers around here take it for granted that because I'm white, and male, and middle aged, that I must think just like they do. So, they often times feel safe making comments to me, that they would never think of making in public, or to an African American."

Hell, the exact same thing happened to me at least three times. In fucking BRAZIL!

One of those three instanced was a pair of Mormon missionaries knocking at my door. (Google "mormon cain black skin" for the gory details.) Another was a health insurance saleswoman. The other was a picture-framer/glassworks business owner.

Oddly, three people (four if you count the Mormon pair as two people) who were trying to sell me stuff.
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jaxblueman Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 11:38 PM
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30. African American President
in_cog_ni_to hit it right on the head.

One of the biggest misconceptions in this Country is that Obama's election in 2008, was an indication that America had finally gotten over it's bigotry. Nothing could be further from the truth. Actually, Obama received fewer white votes in the South in 2008, than Kerry did in 2004. He didn't win because he won over any of the rednecks in Dixie. He won because he fired up the young and educated throughout the rest of the Country.

I'm a middle aged white man living in the deep South. (Jacksonville FL) I guess most of the Gomers around here take it for granted that because I'm white, and male, and middle aged, that I must think just like they do. So, they often times feel safe making comments to me, that they would never think of making in public, or to an African American. Based on the many comments that I have hear in the past 3 years, I can say with absolute certainty that bigotry is alive and well in the South. If anything, the election of Obama has only served to embolden these ignorant rednecks.

Sometimes I think that the Country would have been better off in the long run if we had simply let the South go, in 1861. Those States have been an albatross around this Country's neck, ever since. Their insistence on "States Rights" as a justification for bigotry, ignorance, discrimination, and religious fanaticism, continues to keep this Country from reaching it's true potential.

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certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 11:58 PM
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33. a big enabler is rw radio , which is nationalized.....
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jaxblueman Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:15 AM
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38. African American Pres
Agreed. Right wing radio has a lot to do with the divisiveness.

But their message, although it has its followers throughout the Country, is much more likely to be embraced by the redneck Southern bigots, than it is by an educated North easterner, or West Coaster.
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certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 09:53 AM
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78. one thing RW radio does well is make excuses for the racism, annd because the left ignores it
those 1000 radio stations have made a lot of this shit more acceptable
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 08:04 AM
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71. I'll try not to highjack here, but simply state...
... that it's not "the south" so much as it is those who would influence red-necks a la their hatred. The "Southern Strategy" proved a fertile ground for these hating sons of bitches who were and still are in power.

I lived 35 years in the south, 30 in FL and 3 in TX, and now I'll add more adult years, coming back to the north, where I initially grew up.

Red necks who hate Obama, or any black man or woman in congress THRIVE in PA, too. They THRIVE in NY, CT, OREGON... EVERYWHERE!

What got to all of them? Marketing of that same "southern" strategy. It's an age-old technique, and I'd love to see everyone who was involved in that marketing strategy pay for it. I'm like the departed Bill Hicks on that subject.
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FreeBillClinton Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:49 AM
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43. Anyone who thinks it's racism forgets how much they hated Clinton
Edited on Tue Jul-26-11 12:50 AM by FreeBillClinton
and how they vilify Carter to this day.
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jaxblueman Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 01:03 AM
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46. Carter and Clinton
No, no, no.

The Southern rednecks hated Carter and Clinton because neither of them was an ignorant bigot. To the racists, Carter and Clinton 'betrayed' their own.

As for vilifying Carter to this day, I have to disagree with you. I don't live too far from Plains, and generally speaking, most people in this part of the Country will describe Carter as a good man who meant well, but just got in over his head. I'd hardly characterize that is 'vilification.'
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Liquorice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 02:22 AM
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50. Yep, they did the same thing to FDR. Republicans have always been this bad. People have
such short memories. Republicans have always been hellbent on destroying democratic presidents even if it means destroying the country. This is nothing new.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 08:53 AM
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75. And only one Dem knew how to beat them
LBJ knew their book of dirty tricks by heart and turned it right around on them. He was the meanest, most vindictive SOB the Democrats ever had in the Oval Office, and the Repubs couldn't beat him. Too bad he got consumed by the swamp of VietNam; in the end he beat himself.
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:07 PM
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91. yeah, well, I thought FDR's motto
was "smile at their faces with a knife behind your back." Yeah, he was pressured by the repugs after his massive public building projects was underway to hold back-unemployment was going down with the jobs programs, then he backtracked and it shot right up again. He should have never listened to the greedy sociopaths anyway.

Also, FDR sent in the troops to protect the protesting union laborers being ganged up by the owner's thugs (Pinkertons and local police). I thought that took some chutzpah to send in the troops to protect the laborers.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 03:08 PM
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108. The hate for Clinton was so high it was hard to top. But top it they did.
It's like... if you're traveling at 0.99999999999995 x the speed of light, how much faster can you go?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 04:15 PM
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113. The color of his skin just makes their hatred run deeper. Everyone knows they hate
Democrats, but a BLACK DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT? Their heads are still spinning. They can't handle it. Being an African American just makes it worse. Much, much worse.
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Pedalpower Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 09:50 AM
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77. Race isn't the main source of their hatred...
Of course, racists flock to the Republican party. Where else would they go?

But, right-wing radio and Fox news have been radicalizing the repubelickin' BASE for decades. Not, average voters, I'm talking about the PRIMARY VOTERS. This base voter has been brainwashed into thinking that anything but the most extreme conservative positions are an all-out assault on everything that is right and just. If you are taught that moderates and liberals are actually out to destroy your WAY OF LIFE, how could you possibly work with them and find compromise?

Their primary voters select candidates that have no intention of compromise. Compromise means capitulation and cooperation with the enemy. They have no option to get along. Armed with the belief that government is the problem, they must hamper government's function.

(And if they fail to be reelected, they'll take cushy lobbyist jobs as payoff for their corporate loyalty.)

But the point is that Conservatives hate those who work for collective good far more than they hate because of skin color. Many do hate based on melanin alone, but they are far more afraid of the collective good that will occur when 'minorities' use their voices to influence the political process. The day that non-whites embrace self-hating conservative policies, the Right end their open demonization.

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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 10:58 PM
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27. You have one wise daddy, n/t
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certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 11:35 PM
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28. racist motherfuckers whose bullshit is made acceptable because 1000 radio stations make it so
and some of them are endorsed by pro and university sports, and a lot of local sponsors who think it's all about business.

so those universities and the owners and shareholders and employees of those businesses go with that bullshit and racism?
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Tumbulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 11:45 PM
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31. right you are (nt)
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padruig Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:08 AM
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35. the cost of a republican
Let me warn the nation against the smooth evasion which says:

'Of course we believe all these things.
We believe in Social Security;
we believe in work for the unemployed;
we believe in saving homes.

Cross our hearts and hope to die,
we believe in all these things;

BUT we do not like the way
the present administration is doing them.

JUST turn them over to us.
We will do all of them;
we will do more of them;
we will do them better;
and best of all,
the doing of them
will not cost anybody anything.'

-- Franklin D. Roosevelt

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:09 AM
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36. K & R!
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AverageJoe90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:12 AM
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37. Your dad seems to be one sharp older man. =)
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:47 AM
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40. Your dad is right, FourScore
Crazed rightwingers seem to dominate the Republican Party.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:48 AM
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41. Why is it relevant that your father lives in Georgia? nt.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 06:23 AM
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59. As a Georgian, I think that the point is not all seniors in Georgia are RW/GOP/Teabaggers.
I live in a small blue area of the state, so I am surrounded by many liberal and progressive folks of all ages and backgrounds. However, there are many, many white Georgians who are very conservative and who listen to RW hate radio and many white Georgians who attend fundamentalist churches where politics is preached from the pulpits. Among these conservative Georgians, there is a palpable hatred for President Obama that goes beyond mere politics.

I've lived in the South for my whole life. Racism is a reality of life here. As a part of political of social discourse, it was less overt for many years, but now it is more overt and less coded.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 06:59 AM
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67. I'm curious. Do you ever wish you had lived your life somewhere else?
I've lived in Columbus, Ohio, most of my life. From here, the South appears as a hellhole of neo-Confederates, teabaggers, and right-wing extremists. I appreciate your coming on and reminding us that there are pockets of sanity amid the horror down there. But I can't help but wonder if you don't feel "out of your element" living amid such hatred and fear in a place where "racism is a reality of life". Or no?
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:48 PM
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96. No, not at all. I love the South and the places where I grew up and the places I have lived.
In my experience, traveling around the US, Mexico and overseas, I have found that no place and no group of people are perfect. There are so many wonderful things about where I live now and the South in general.

Although there are racists and bigots here in Georgia, there are also racists and bigots in other parts of the US too.

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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:55 AM
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45. They hate that a black man is smarter and more successful than them.
I swear from talking to black men over the years and having them tell me that they had to work twice as hard as a white man to get anywhere and then seeing all the racist bullshit by the teabaggers I cannot come to any other conclusion.

Many people are fine with black people as long as they as in their place. But if a black man comes in the doctor's office as your doctor how many feel upset....a lot.

Remember that the civil right act was just put into effect in 1964 and about half of the country fought it. These people are still around and a lot of them are elected officials now.

If I could have a dime for every person who said to me, "I'm not prejudiced but...........

I don't think we should forget this.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 01:12 AM
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47. wow...
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FedUp_Queer Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 01:27 AM
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48. I agree. It's all about racism.
Particularly because he has been such a bad Democratic president. If he were white doing the stuff he's done, they'd be calling for his election.
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Liquorice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 02:16 AM
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49. It's absolutely true. They did the same thing to Clinton. They will go to any length
Edited on Tue Jul-26-11 02:17 AM by Liquorice
including complete destruction of the country to ruin a democratic president.
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Harriety Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 03:51 AM
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52. How very sad but true..... I wept for joy when he was elected and now.....
I cry for the way some people in our country have acted. They listen and react to every sleaze-ball right-wing smear on our President. They call him a Nazi, Marxist, Mooz-lim, and God knows what else. They would rather he go down and take our country with him. I told my husband last night if they do this I don't know if I can live here.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 04:17 AM
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53. The problem is that the Republicans
believe all sorts of made up nonsense about Obama. They believe this utter bullshit when the truth is bad enough. It truly stretches the imagination.
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 04:43 AM
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54. I too live in Georgia & I agree!
However, one of our Senators, Republican Saxby Chambliss, has the entire Tea Bagger Nation after him for supporting the Gang of Six tax increases...I think it is hilarious!
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 06:08 AM
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57. Ol' Sack of Shit Chambliss is my Senator too. The Teabaggers have turned on one of their own.
Who would have thought that would happen? They are (Ol' Sack of Shit included) a bunch of idiots.

To add insult to injury, Paul Broun, Jr., the most wacky, frightening and wingnutty fundy Teabagger of them all, is my congressman.
:(

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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 06:38 PM
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116. I was talking with a friend of mine...
And we were at a loss for words just thinking how far right the Republicans are that Saxby is considered a moderate relative to the rest of those NUT JOBS!

If this idiots are given full control of the country come 2013 we are in seriously deep trouble! That is not hyperbolic speech that is the truth! These Tea Baggers what a corporate run Christian Theocracy!!

YIKES...Paul Broun!! I have Republican Westmoreland as my rep. and he is nut as far as I am concerned...But not as bad as Broun or at least he is not as vocal if he actually agrees with the stuff Broun says.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 10:18 PM
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117. Broun is proud to let everyone know how FAR right he is.
:-( It is a crazy world when Westmoreland is considered a right wing conservative but to the left of Broun. :(
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avebury Donating Member (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 05:29 AM
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55. K&R
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 06:12 AM
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58. I actually think it proves they don't love their country at all and never have
They love power. Period. Their so called love for country is no more than your basic political rhetoric.
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 06:33 AM
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60. May his words go viral.
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D in VT Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:19 PM
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92. It's already all over Facebook
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 06:34 AM
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61. Yes - republicon hate far exceeds any good feelings towards the USA
damn disgustipating
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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 06:47 AM
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63. Your father knows what many of us already knew. Republicans would rather destroy this
country the help make it progress. Funny how people like your father knows how important a real democracy works.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 06:49 AM
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64. That's it.
We started to see it with Clinton (I never saw such hatred of such a good man in all my life) and now we see it in even stronger form with Obama. The republicans apparently will no longer acknowledge the legitimacy of any president or other leader unless he or she is a right-wing extremist. They seem especially riled that our duly elected president is half black.

There is one thing that republicans clearly do not give a crap about: America.
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aj_cd Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 07:50 AM
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69. That is the truth!
smart man, your Dad.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 07:52 AM
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70. REPUBLICANS 2012 - Keeping millions out of work to put one man out of a job.
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4_TN_TITANS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 08:40 AM
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73. You almost could have said that about me & Bush...
but when the son bitch lied to us about Iraq, I actually gave him the benefit of the doubt at the time. Because he was the POTUS and was supposed to deserve some speck of trust and respect.

I absolutely loathed the a-hole after that betrayal because I knew that country didn't come first to him.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 09:28 AM
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76. Your father is right
We should use his quote as a Slogan!
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 10:00 AM
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80. 97% of Americans are of the same opinion. n/t
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 10:06 AM
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82. gotta burn the village to 'save' it.
nt
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hamsterjill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 10:22 AM
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83. Wow - that's truly an awesome comment.
Okay, if we use it now and then? Tell your father thank you for being so smart!!!
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Beavker Donating Member (784 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 10:41 AM
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84. I'm not sure they hate it...
They just don't give a shit about it. It's a means to an end for them. A resource for wealth via natural resources (now dwindling, and being blocked by pesky regulators), labor (that is moved overseas and locally being salvaged by the Unions that they attack), and consumers of their products (which are being destoyed due to the class warfare, and shifting to the rising middle class in China and India).

They just dont' need the US anymore. The teat has run dry for them.
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Cracklin Charlie Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 10:47 AM
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85. Jealousy

It is truly the ugliest of the seven deadly sins.

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JAnthony Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 11:35 AM
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87.  That man deserves a hug from everyone at DU! n/t
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Smilo Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 11:43 AM
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88. Sad, but true.
:nopity:

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mudstump Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:24 PM
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93. Your Father....
is a very smart man.
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Populist_Prole Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:25 PM
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94. I sure wish my own father were like yours
He was always to the right, but never used to spout about it. The Obama election really pushed him off the deep end. He's in his 70's, healthy enough to enjoy being retired, and reasonably financially secure. You'd think he'd be happy right? Wrong. Now he's bursting at the seams bitter and constantly spouting hard right/teabagger type glued to Rush and Fox news. Pretty much hates anybody that isn't as hard right as him. Can't stand to be around him.
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SleeplessinSoCal Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:48 PM
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95. I think this is just part of their agenda to privatize everything. And get rid of regulations.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 01:16 PM
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97. Ah. My new sigline, with proper citation to your Dad.
:applause:
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 03:22 PM
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111. My Dad and I are honored. Thank you.
:hug:
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stormpilot Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 01:17 PM
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98. Same age as my Dad, Your Dad is right
They cannot see past their hate. Tsk tsk tsk.
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boycottfaux Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 01:58 PM
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99. Partially Agree
Except that the republicans who truly hate Mr. Obama do not
really view him as 'their' President . .

That's why 'they' want their country back [from the colored
man] . .

RACIST, SICKOS .. 
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 02:19 PM
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it's ironic, the Republicans said that about any critic of Bush, and now they are really living it
themselves.

If Bush had been a good president, I wouldn't care that he was a combat dodging dimwit with a fondness for bald male prostitutes. It was his policies that were repugnant.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 02:19 PM
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102. it's ironic, the Republicans said that about any critic of Bush, and now they are really living it
themselves.

If Bush had been a good president, I wouldn't care that he was a combat dodging dimwit with a fondness for bald male prostitutes. It was his policies that were repugnant.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 02:20 PM
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103. Republicans heap their greatest scorn on DLCers because they are competition
for their place at the right hand of their corporate masters.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 02:28 PM
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104. K & R
:thumbsup:
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SylviaD Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 03:04 PM
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106. I doubt they can hate Obama
...more than I hated Bush.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 03:11 PM
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109. Your father is a very wise man. eom
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 03:12 PM
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110. The people here blame it on minorities.
Like the white female "librarian" i had the misfortune of encountering at the city library(started as a non-profit by a young man who bought an old Methodist church and made it a library).

She blamed everything on "them Mezzcans" and "them blacks" and was upset that she had Spanish channels on her TV and they had "a Mezzcan food aisle" at Wal-Mart.

This idiot has lived in Texas her whole life and NEVER had a tamale or a burrito???


:banghead:


Everything is somebody else's fault. It's never their fault for voting for rich right wing Republicans, and voting against their own interests. Being told they are too good to join a union, they're management material, for instance.

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Marnie Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 03:57 PM
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112. He got it right on the first try.
Full credit.

But this is exactly what the Republican have been saying at least since Reagan.

Obama needs to realize that not only are Republicans venial and vile but they are very very smart and very very savy. Boehner and Canter like Duhbya aren't very bright. They don't have to be because they get paid to obey orders.

He can't out "play" them. Whatever his IQ he is a novice at this game. He is one against many and he surrounded himself with the enemy when he chose his staff and his commissions.
They have been playing the game of destroy Americans for at least two generations. They plant and grow them that way. They send their children to the types of colleges that teach them that way.

The only way Obama and the Democrats win is to serve the best interests of average working Americans, so that we become their strength, and they aren't doing that.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 04:18 PM
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114. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, FourScore.
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 04:37 PM
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115. Always a pleasure, Uncle Joe!
:hi:
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 12:09 AM
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118. Your Dad is very wise, summed it up perfectly.
Their stated goal is to make him a one-term president, no matter what it costs this country, and us. :( Tell your Dad that he has a lot of like minded friends here on DU. :)
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 01:20 AM
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120. And it seems like Obama will run the country into the ground trying to prove to the republicans that
he is one of them.


K&R
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