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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 05:07 PM
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***POTUS making statement NOW. MSNBC, et al, I'm sure. *** nt
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 05:08 PM
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1. Sounds pissed. I just now saw that Boehner had weaseled out
of the talks.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 05:11 PM
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2. POTUS: We offered Boehner $1 trillion in reduced spending on domestic and defense.
Also $650 billion savings on Medicare/Medicaid/SS without impacting beneficiaries (presumably waste/fraud). In exchange, he wanted $1.2 trillion in increased revenues through closing tax loopholes. (I presume that these figures are all over 10 years.)

Calling a meeting of the Congressional leadership tomorrow, demanding to come to a deal.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 05:15 PM
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4. I'm glad he's laying it out like this. Now he's standing up for
Reid and Pelosi.

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kelly1mm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 05:17 PM
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5. I heard him say 650 million in cuts to entitlements (not savings). Cuts. nt
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 05:20 PM
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6. He very clearly said, without affecting recipients. nt
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 05:21 PM
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7. gotta make him look evil somehow.
;)
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kelly1mm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 05:27 PM
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12. How is using his exact words, rather than changing it to something
more palatable and then adding a editorial comment about cutting fraud and abuse, makes him look evil?
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kelly1mm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 05:24 PM
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9. Current recipients. Thats what I heard. Under 65? Not so much. nt
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 05:25 PM
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10. Delete, duplicate post.
Edited on Fri Jul-22-11 05:28 PM by former9thward
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 05:27 PM
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13. He said "current" beneficiaries. You left out a word.
The cuts would be for the future recipients. If there are $650 billion in "waste and fraud" in these programs shouldn't it be eliminated immediately? Why want for a debt ceiling deal if he knows where there is so much waste and fraud? Do you think there is that much "waste and fraud' in SS, etc.?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 05:15 PM
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3. Re: Boehner: "I've been left at the altar a couple of times." AND
"We offered an extraordinarily fair deal."

AND, "I was willing to take serious hits from my Party to get this done.

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CaptRandom Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 05:23 PM
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8. From how hes speaking it seems like the 14th A. option is going to be the only way to settle this...
and that hes being backed into that corner by the pugs..
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 05:26 PM
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11. That crossed my mind, too. He said the leaders have orders
to appear in his office tomorrow and tell him how they're going to deal with this.

If there were an answer, a deal would have already been made.

So...if they still can't come to an agreement (and really, what would indicate they would?), that may be the only avenue open to him.

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CaptRandom Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 05:38 PM
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14. right? there isn't any time if there isn't a deal...
its too short a time frame for anything new to go through two houses, melded <I forget the term when their respective bills are merged and unified>, and hit his desk... the 14th is the only way
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 05:41 PM
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15. After you posted this, I think in the Q&A, he said he expected them
to come back and they'd work it out. I hope he gives them a deadline -- like 5pm tomorrow!

And welcome to DU, CaptRandom!! :hi:
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checks-n-balances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 05:50 PM
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16. He was great & hope he always will be now
I wish they could put a sock in Pat Buchanan - he sounds as crazy as he always does. Otherwise, a pleasure to watch this.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 06:47 PM
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17. Haha! I actually like Pat! I think he's a straight shooter, can
admit when the Republicans are wrong, can laugh at himself. And I think he's sincere in his whack beliefs, not just pushing the party line. If we gotta have a Republican's take on these things, I'd much rather listen to him than Ron Christie, for example.
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checks-n-balances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 07:30 PM
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18. Normally, I'd agree with you for the most part
Tonight he was pretty manic and really got on my nerves.And he conceded nothing.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 07:36 PM
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19. I didn't see him tonight, but I know every once in a while I'm
thinking "get the hook!".

STILL better than Ron Christie, though, I bet! :hi:

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