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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 12:55 PM
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Harry Reid (Gives Up?): The Senate is OUTTA HERE
Edited on Fri Jul-22-11 12:59 PM by kpete
Reid steps back as Obama, Boehner work toward debt-limit compromise
Senate Majority Leader: ‘I haven’t been in the day-to-day negotiations’

By Karoun Demirjian (contact)
Published Friday, July 22, 2011 | 9:10 a.m.
Updated 4 minutes ago


Harry Reid

It’s official: Harry Reid is no longer part of the inner dealmaking circle — that club now exclusively belongs to President Obama and House Speaker John Boehner (and Eric Cantor too).

“The Speaker and President have been working diligently together,” Reid said this morning, as he announced he’d no longer be keeping the Senate in session over the weekend, because the plan he thought they had to push — a deal he’d worked out with the Republican Leader Mitch McConnell over the last week — was off, in favor of a grand compromise being ironed out between Obama and Boehner. “We in the Senate must wait for them.”

But this is no ordinary strategic decision; for Reid, this is force majeure.

“We’re doing our very best to keep a sense, on top of what’s going on,” Reid explained, adding “a lot of what’s going on, we don’t know. I haven’t been in the day-to-day negotiations.

The rest:
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2011/jul/22/reid-steps-back-obama-boehner-work-toward-bud/

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addendum:
Force majeure would come into play, for example, when you buy a house. If the house is destroyed in a fire caused by a lightning strike, neither party remains obligated.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 12:57 PM
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1. well as a president obama supporter, I would have to say that
Edited on Fri Jul-22-11 12:58 PM by okieinpain
if this is true its pretty damn STUPID of him. Senate dems should walk.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 03:49 PM
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25. it's the house that appropriates the money...he has to deal with boehner
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 04:01 PM
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26. true...
but it must also pass the senate- he should be working with Reid, too.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 01:00 PM
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2. it's depressing the way O treats the Dem's
orange man will continue to get in front of the cameras and claim the prez is not willing to negotiate. Afterwards maybe they can both go enjoy a game of golf...
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 01:02 PM
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4. You libruls are never satisfied!
The President is treating Democrats every bit as nicely as his predecessor did. What's the big schmeal?
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 01:09 PM
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8. I'm a life long Democrat, this is called Democrat Underground
what party are you registered with?
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 01:13 PM
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10. Actually, it's Democratic Underground
Usually the "sarcasm" thingy isn't required because I'm dealing with intelligent people; but I've also missed the obvious myself from time to time, so please imagine that my post above signed off with :sarcasm:

Thanks.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 01:13 PM
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11. Uh, hello! I think you missed the sarcasm.
Read it again -- "The President is treating Democrats every bit as nicely as his predecessor did. What's the big schmeal?"
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CleanGreenFuture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 01:25 PM
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13. Why did you spell it that way? That's a dead giveaway. And the post was sarcasm.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 01:34 PM
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15. Uh, no it isn't. Big 'tell' there.
This is 'DemocratIC' Underground.

And who is this 'O' person?

That's Mr. Obama, to you.
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Cherchez la Femme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 06:46 PM
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28. Perhaps we should just call him "The Precious"
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 01:31 PM
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14. BHO seems to be treating Dems with the contempt he surely must feel for them and it ain't a pretty
sight. He seems determined to inflict the most damage on the most people, the old, the frail, and the poor, ever inflicted on such a large group by any president ever. The good news: it ain't gonna happen unless some of the Senate Dems, who have been getting contempt heaped upon them, vote for his grand plan to inflict this enormous damage on the old, the frail, and the poor and, as lagniappe, getting collateral damage inflicted upon the economy, as it contracts for reasons obvious to all, as will federal revenues. :patriot:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 01:00 PM
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3. "I haven’t been in the day-to-day negotiations." Why not? Why not demand they be televised?
How about a little of that "transparency" from the nifty slogan?
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 01:03 PM
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5. This is very telling
Just the other day, Reid was hammering the House for not working the weekend.

He is washing his hands of this and putting it all on the Republicans (including the one in the White House)
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 01:03 PM
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6. I heard that Pelosi is in the dark, too
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 01:06 PM
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7. I don't blame him. If I were he, I know I'd be disgusted if I worked
my ass off (and had to actually talk/deal w/McConnell -- ewww), then was essentially blown off. It's so disrespectful of Obama to treat the Dems that way. Pelosi has had the same complaint at times. In several instances, I think Obama would have benefitted by widening his circle of advisors -- and who better to advise him than people who WANT to support him? Not smart.



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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 01:10 PM
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9. Uh oh! The "Not Me" ghost is on the loose again!
Who is the one knows about all this?

"Not me!"

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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 01:22 PM
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12. I guess my finger must have slipped in 2008 and I hit the rethug mark
instead of the Democrat. Darn drat! I hate it when that happens.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 01:38 PM
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16. Reid is better off making time to come to DU and read what's
going down instead of being a wallflower at the big dance.
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 01:40 PM
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17. Among all this sh1t, I really wonder what Biden is thinking
Especially about hitching his horse to this administration's post.
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adhd_what_huh Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 01:44 PM
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18. Please!
Obama is as much a Democrat as most on this board and smarter than all of us. I wish the Obama haters would try to have some perspective.
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blkmusclmachine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 01:46 PM
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19. Wow, didn't see that coming!
:+
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 01:55 PM
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20. The only reason for having even one "Democrat" in the negiotiations is so Democrats can be blamed...



.....for gutting Social Security and Medicare for the middle class.





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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 02:02 PM
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21. Same way he treated Dems in the health care debate - he shut them out ....
.... and made backroom deals with Republicans and the insurance industry. Thus, we got NO single-payer.

DESPICABLE. I am beginning to despise this man.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 03:13 PM
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22. So now no Democrats are involved, huh?
Oops, that's right, Obama is still nominally called a Democrat. Oh, my bad. ;-)
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 03:26 PM
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23. Who can blame Harry? Obama under cuts Dems at every turn
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 03:47 PM
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24. This is why he's an ineffectual, feckless majority leader
Then again, I was hoping they'd replace him with -- Dick Durbin. That was before he betrayed us by joing first the Cat Food Commission and then the Bloods Gang of Six. :eyes:
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dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 04:07 PM
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27. I posted earlier that I now consider Reid the leader of the party.
And that doesn't give me very much confidence. Not at all.

But, he is doing exactly what I would do were I in his shoes. I would step back and let the President make his deal. I wouldn't try to interfere, nor would I publicly criticize the President. But I would keep my hands out of it, and when the final deal came out, I would decide then and there whether or not I could support the deal.

I could very much see Reid, Pelosi, or both deciding to torpedo this thing. Or, at least a boy can hope.
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