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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 08:31 AM
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*Warning: Graphic Video* Man Shot In the Back By Police
Source: shtfplan.com

The following graphic video was taken in San Francisco on July 16, 2011, where a man was reportedly shot at by police six to ten times when he tried to flee after failing to produce a train ticket. According to reports, he was shot in the back while running from police. In the video, recorded by an onlooker, the 19 year old man struggles for life for a few moments and then his body lay motionless on the pavement as police hold the crowd at bay. Initial reports provided by Jack Blood’s Dead Line Live via Domas Jefferson indicate the man was unarmed, but SF PD reported the following day that a silver handgun was found. Witnesses can be heard asking police where the gun is, and no such weapon is apparently visible in the video (though the SF Gate account below indicates there is a weapon visible).

No video of the actual encounter has been made available yet (if it even exists), but the following video is taken seconds after the shooting:



Read more: http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/warning-graphic-video-man-shot-in-back-by-police-for-not-paying-train-fare_07192011



Cops will probably get a medal.
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 08:45 AM
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1. Since the video doesn't show the actual shooting.....
.... there is no evidence of wrong doing by police. If the man did have a gun and fired it at police, as witnesses state, then he deserved to get what he got. Once you fire a weapon at police, kiss your ass goodbye. They now have the right to use deadly force and they usually do....to the extreme. Anyone who even brandishes a gun at police is subject to deadly force, and they rarely ever win that scenario. I have zero sympathy for any thug who uses a gun to commit a crime, and I hope this video will help a few see the consequences of bad decisions.
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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 08:56 AM
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3. To be clear
Witnesses say he did not have a gun. They police say witnesses said he had a gun.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 09:27 AM
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9. Which "witnesses" said what, to whom, and when?
How can someone who didn't see something be called a witness?

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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 08:58 AM
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4. Been uneder the radar for 10 years?
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 09:01 AM
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5. How blatantly prejudiced in favor of police. I am not you. There are two sides to a story.
It looks like there has been a major change in instructions coming down from the top about what police can do. Every couple of weeks we have new news like this.

Once you learn that you can't trust them for planting evidence, how can you believe anything from the first minutes - it takes months of legal digging. And who is going to do it for one lone person.

This person so far can only be accused of running. Be real.

We didn't turn on the police by not believing them to the extent we do now. They are making their own case for not being believed - all across the nation.

If they haven't been given direction from the top - then they are experiencing collective, group insecurity and little brain decision making topped off with the being at the top for their ability to lie to us.

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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 08:49 AM
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2. There's an at least plausible story from the police on this one
Which is not to say it is necessarily true for being plausible, but it is also not necessarily false for coming from the police.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 09:23 AM
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6. How are we different from the old Soviet Union again? nt
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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 09:24 AM
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7. Several Points
He was chased for not paying - he started shooting as he ran.
They found gunshot residue on his hands.

Bystanders violated the scene and took evidence - according to the SF Chronicle.

This asshole was wanted for murdering a pregnant woman.


You shoot at police - you get shot back.

I get so tired of hearing about people getting mad about cops shooting people - YET NOT ONE PERSON SEEMS TO CARE about the 10s of thousands of young black men murdered by other young black men.

You side with the thugs - I side with the police on this one.

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 09:24 AM
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8. Unrec for misleading headline
I was expecting a video depicting the act of police shooting a man in the back. I can't tell where the man was shot, and the text says "According to reports, he was shot in the back while running from police."

Who made the reports, and to whom? Without more data it looks like hearsay and speculation.
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kanrok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 09:50 AM
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10. Not only a misleading headline
but the body of the post contains a lot of guess, speculation and conjecture.

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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 10:08 AM
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11. Interesting that the police did not provide first aid to the man.
Nor did they allow anyone else to provide first aid.

So that he basically bled out right there on the sidewalk before any ambulance could arrive.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 12:53 PM
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14. I don't see how they could have. The crowd was harassing them. They were in a defensive mode.
Before you attempt to stop bleeding, it is essential that you don impermeable gloves at a minimum to protect yourself from infection.

The situation was not conducive to the administration of first aid. The police in the video are protecting themselves and trying to preserve the integrity of the scene.
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buckrogers1965 Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 01:41 AM
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15. Gloves aren't to protect yourself.
Unless your skin is cut open and bleeding, your skin is completely impermeable to all germs and viruses. You are most likely to get infected when you touch your face, rubbing your mouth, nose or eyes with your hands, which you can do accidentally even when wearing gloves.

You wear gloves to protect the wound site on the victim from infection. But if rescuers don't have time to don gloves, an infection is better than being dead.
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BrightSideOfLife Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 11:13 AM
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12. San Fancisco PD lost a bit of credibility with the Oscar Grant shooting
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 12:34 PM
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13. Oscar Grant was shot by a BART police officer
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 02:12 AM
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16. Is that the gun laying in the median there? The second video shows evidence removal from the scene.
Here's a screenshot of what I believe is the gun.



The second video shows evidence removal from the scene:



In the second video the people are clearly seen standing in the median (the police efforts to cordon off the scene appear to have been futile, it is a wonder if the first video is the entire video or was cut off at that point to hide the fact that the police were unable to fully cordon off the scene due to the mob.

I hate defending police but I don't buy the story that he didn't have a gun, not for one minute.

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