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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 08:21 PM
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The Simplest Of Political Questions: Does This President Know HOW To Play Political Hardball ???
Forget cave-ins, Capitulator-in-Chief, compromiser, et. al....

Does he know how to use his office to smack the fuckers down?

:shrug:
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 08:22 PM
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1. Evidently Not, Sir
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 08:23 PM
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2. There's a T involved.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 08:36 PM
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13. Are We Talking... T-Ball ???


:shrug:
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 08:43 PM
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15. I remember not having to wear a helmet but yeah.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 08:23 PM
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3. No
He's "weak"! It's surprising that he made it out of the primaries. Even more surprising is that he gets anything done.

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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 08:53 PM
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20. No copy and paste hotlinks to all his great achievements?
WTF?! :shrug:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 09:14 PM
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24. Does it bother
you that President Obama has accomplished a lot of really great things in two and a half years? That he is one the best Presidents ever?

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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 09:34 PM
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25. He could have been one of the best.
He sure had the momentum.

He lacks the guts for the job. He is not a leader. It's just not in him.

He will lose in 2012 due to all the caving to the pukes. I don't know anyone who will vote for him again.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 11:26 PM
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28. I bet you don't.
Laying down with fleas and all that.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 12:44 AM
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 08:24 PM
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4. I don't know about you, but I feel smacked down
You operate under the premise that he is really compromising. I think the correct term is "conspiring."
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 08:24 PM
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5. Better question: Which frigging team is he playing for? /nt
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 08:27 PM
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7. Thanks for saving me the bother of saying that.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 08:27 PM
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6. Yes. He has no problem playing hardball with progressives.
Sadly, when it comes to the Republicans, well, that's a whole other story.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 08:28 PM
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8. He's used his office/staffers to smack us "purist" progressives down.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 08:28 PM
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9. I used to have better brawls in 2nd grade at Our Lady of Mercy
uniform, nuns and all.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 08:31 PM
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11. LOL! Love it :-)
:hi:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 08:48 PM
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18. Oh C'Mon Man... Those Nuns Can Be Ruthless...
:evilgrin:

:rofl:

:bounce:

:hi:

:kick:
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 08:30 PM
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10. answer: only with his base.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 08:33 PM
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12. Yes. But he agrees w/ his enemies more than he disagrees.
You all don't appreciate the pain that causes him.

Or the special chess game he's playing.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 08:40 PM
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14. It is a moot point..
.. frankly, I think he is very intelligent and that he knows exactly what he is doing.

He is doing it by choice, either due to adhering to his personal ideology (which is at serious odds with his campaign rhetoric, and his presidential rhetoric as well) or because he is beholden to other interests.

Either way, I won't vote for him again, he's merely Republican lite. And barely lite at that.
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Still Waters Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 08:46 PM
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16. I honestly don't know. I think he truly wanted to change the poisonous
roadblock in Washington as the centerpiece of his Presidency. In my opinion he compromised way too much and too often. I imagine the Repubs were wetting themselves with fear when they saw the power of the movement that propelled Obama to the White House, but then quickly sized him up as giving way more ground than he had to.

His election should have shored up the Democratic party for a generation; instead, I fear that if he loses in 2012 the Democrats may be done for. The 2010 elections just about wiped the party out in many statehouses--I hope I am wrong about this.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 08:51 PM
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19. Yep... There Have Been Many A Post, That He's The Right Man For The Wrong Time...
We need a fighter.

:shrug:
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 08:47 PM
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17. I was waiting, hoping for someone to post this. It really is the question now.
He does not, and maybe is way over his head.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 08:54 PM
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21. No
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 09:07 PM
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22. With us, definitely
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Creideiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 09:09 PM
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23. He's playing 23-dimensional chess...
against all but the top 2%.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 09:38 PM
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sad sally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 09:48 PM
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27. At the press conference when he said when the Republican's offer
a serious plan, then "I'm ready to move," doesn't give much confidence that this a leader talking, it's someone who reacts to whatever is happening at the moment. It's being a follower, not a leader.

So, wherever the Republicans want to take him, he'll move to that position.
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