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Sgent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 09:59 AM Original message |
Question: Why are drones different than manned flights |
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firehorse (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
1. For one, its a way to declare war without the president having to go through congress |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
2. skin inthe game |
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FLPanhandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 10:08 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Bull. |
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AgainsttheCrown (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 10:25 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. It does make a difference... |
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FLPanhandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 10:51 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. It's not about troop casualties |
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #9 |
36. War is not about being fair - it isn't a game. |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 10:36 AM Response to Reply #3 |
12. I doubt you ever had to pull the trigger |
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FLPanhandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 10:47 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Nope. |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 02:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
43. lol |
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FLPanhandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
4. No real difference. |
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firehorse (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 10:33 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. ask yourself... if we put drones in other countries are you comfortable with drones in this country |
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FLPanhandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 10:43 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I'm sure someone said the same thing about bows & arrows |
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firehorse (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 11:27 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. So inotherwords you believe whoever has the most power and technology should be able to |
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FLPanhandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Welcome to the history of warfare. |
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whatchamacallit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 12:41 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. All sheltered chickenhawks invoke that "history of war" bullshit |
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FLPanhandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 01:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Ignore history if you don't like it...that's an approach I guess. |
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whatchamacallit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 01:08 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Domestic violence has a long history too |
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firehorse (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 12:41 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. we are not at war with the thousands of innocent civilians our drones have killed. |
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FLPanhandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. What a hodge podge of a response. |
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TexDevilDog (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 12:46 PM Response to Reply #11 |
25. Drones in the US doing surveillance. |
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Cid_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 01:08 PM Response to Reply #11 |
35. New plan... |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
5. And, what's the difference between a "terrorist" setting a bomb and pilot dropping/guiding one? |
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firehorse (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
6. Ginette Paris wrote an essay years ago about the dangers of an Apollonian society |
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AgainsttheCrown (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 10:27 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. +1 |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 10:38 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. +1 n/t |
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whatchamacallit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 12:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
28. That's way too touchy-feely for the comfortable killers called Americans. +1 |
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July16th-20th (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
7. Less guilt. |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
8. Because Drones remove the peril of war - that we would not fear war is unthinkable |
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saras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
17. Question: Why are drones different than IEDs? |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
19. Apparently, some here |
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firehorse (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 12:14 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. be careful then... because the state may one day consider you the enemy - warrentless wiretaps ... |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 12:30 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Are you suggesting |
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firehorse (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 12:46 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. How naive to think that drones will remain outside our border used only on brown skinned "enemies" |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 02:16 PM Response to Reply #26 |
44. I draw a distinction |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 01:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
39. The US government has targeted and is targeting a US born |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 02:17 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. And if he had remained within our borders |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 02:20 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. So? How many dead civilians is he worth? |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 02:23 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. As few as possible |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 02:29 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. You and I won't get very far. I fundamentally disagree with summary executions |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 02:33 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Well, perhaps we can agree on one thing |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 02:38 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Agreed. And Yes. |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 01:02 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. So poison gas? Landmines? You didn't put much thought into that post did you? n-t |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 01:31 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. Drones are like cluster bombs in their indiscriminate killing. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 02:19 PM Response to Reply #32 |
46. Both drones and combat aircraft |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 01:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
37. We don't even know who is getting wiped out, most of the time. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
27. I would be just as much againt manned bombings. |
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firehorse (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 12:57 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Can you imagine someone like Palin, Bachman, or Cheney in the position of bypassing congress |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 01:57 PM Response to Reply #29 |
42. If Palin or Bachmann were president... |
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Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
33. The Obama Administration has lauched drone attacks.. |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
40. I'm not sure there is much of one. Use of drones or sending in ground troops are equally acts of war |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
41. Good question. |
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