OMG...WTF is this? We no longer call businesses "business" but "job creators?"

[kevinbgoode]

How long before we start building churches to worship these companies?

Now I know the Republican Party is particularly talented at coming up with the most ridiculous re-naming terms for everything, but ever since I started listening to a few recent comments from the GOP leaders referring to the "job creators" I started to suspect there was a concerted effort to rebrand businesses - particularly businesses who bribe taxpayers to locate in American cities and towns by getting tax freebies and taxpayer-paid infrastructure - as "job creators", blaming federal regulations and tax liabilities for causing layoffs across the land.

This really has to be the most ridiculous con-game yet from the con-artist con-servatives. Since they've done everything possible to strip workers of the collective bargaining rights and subsequently stripped those workers of a decent salary and benefits while joyfully passing along higher costs to consumers, the GOP seriously wants the American people to believe that, after decades of taxpayer handouts in return for a couple hundred jobs, all we need to do is give MORE handouts to the "job creators?"

Why the hell not just use our tax monies to create the jobs directly - so at least the American people KNOW the jobs actually get created. Are we truly supposed to believe that companies who rewarded corporate heads with magnificent raises and bonuses because they managed to lay people off are somehow going to turn around and "create" jobs again?

This got me all riled up cuz I received one of those sappy newsletters from my congressperson - who, of course, is a GOP shill and one of the freshmen reps who are all upset with government spending but managed to get a little pork for his district anyway. So I went to his web site, which sent me to this little page in GOP Land. . .where Cantor is touting the GOP Plan for the "Job Creators". . .hell, they don't even pretend to be interested in the American people any longer - just the "Job Creators."

Anyway, if any of you can stomach this, get a load of this little GOP survey - not of the little people, of course - but of the needy corporations - er - "Job Creators"

http://jobs.majorityleader.gov/

[Lasher]

1. I have a friend who was just laid off by his "job creator"

How can that be? Do "job creators" have force reductions?

:silly:

[Klietzlander]

2. "Job Creators"...

It makes them business people sound like magic happy go lucky pixies hiring people out of the goodness of their hearts.

Yes I do wonder how long until we have to worship idols of the fortune 500 CEO's, or heck pay tribute to the nearest anointed "job creator", giving them money directly in hopes we can get them to bestow such blessings.

[somone]

3. Another Frank Luntz creation?

[LetTimmySmoke]

4. They are superb job creators.

Just ask the Government of India.

[guitar man]

5. I always thought

That jobs were created by demand. People needing goods and services is what creates jobs. Companies don't create jobs, they fill them when demand requires it. If more Americans were working for better pay, we'd see more jobs created to fill the demand for the goods and services they wanted to purchase, which in turn would create more jobs.... I thought this was pretty elementary stuff, there must be some really bone headed fools running the show not to get this simple concept . :banghead:

[kevinbgoode]

6. and get this. . .

http://www.gop.gov/indepth/jobs


The House Republican Plan for America's Job Creators


Those damn "job creators" are sitting on a couple trillion dollars that they ain't using to create one damn job in this country.

[ddeclue]

7. Jobs? What jobs?

:shrug:

[Lugnut]

8. So where are the jobs? n/t

[lib_wit_it]

9. I agree. I've been pleading with the Dems to hire their own Frank Luntz for years now, so, I know

this is not entirely new, but there is something particularly appalling and downright creepy about this "job creators" appellation. How the hell can they be "job creators" when they are steadfastly refusing to hire anyone for at least 2 appalling reasons I can think of:

1. They are waiting for job seekers to become so desperate that we'll accept any shit job for less than minimum wage and no bennies and so that will become that status quo and they can then afford to pay their CEOs even more than the lousy gazillion dollars a week they have to struggle by on now.

2. They want to blame Obama so that they can get a new government that will worship them even more. Maybe they want to be called just plain "creators," and have the government save them the cost of all those tax lawyers and just drop the corporate tax rate to a flat 0%.

[Aviation Pro]

10. The goal of any business...

...is to satisfy the shareholders and be profitable. Job creation is not a business goal, anyone who thinks otherwise is a fucking moron.

[aquart]

11. I think that's a synonym for " filthy rich."

[TorchTheWitch]

12. I'm seriously hating "supply side economics" renaming of "trickle down"

It took decades for people to understand what trickle down economics meant and that it doesn't fucking work. Now with a new name most people aren't understanding it's the same shit they always knew as trickle down and will take decades more for them to figure that out.

[lib_wit_it]

13. Well, if I didn't know they renamed it before this, I'd swear they had to after Stephen Colbert

did this brilliant bit: http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/341481/july-28-2010/the-word---ownership-society

[lib_wit_it]

14. I know it's juvenile, but I always fill out those forms with insulting and/or profane entries. The

only thing you have to give for real is a state and matching zip code. I usually use DC, 20500 (the white house zip.) For my business web site this time I put: http://www.zompist.com/richtax.htm

First name: Fuck
Last Name: You

For How the Government was making it hard for my business I put something like, "Letting greedy, anti-american, liars and cheats like you people have any power whatsoever."

You get the picture. It's fun.

[checks-n-balances]

19. That website is GREAT! LOL and thanks!!

Especially the "Homework/assignments" at the bottom~

[ArcticFox]

15. I know!

And god forbid we TAX the job creators. They might create less jobs!

Nevermind that wages are a deduction against income and therefore not taxed. Nevermind that trading stocks doesn't require all that many employees to do. Oh, and nevermind that the more tax breaks we give to the rich, the more jobs they seem to DESTROY.

Just one of the many reasons I feel sick every day living in this insanity. Its a kind of sea sickness. I can't get my bearings. My common sense is upended every time I turn on the TV or radio.

[moondust]

16. Are you referring to the Chinese job creators?

The Indian job creators?

The Mexican job creators?

The Malaysian job creators?


Please be more specific.

:sarcasm:


(Republicans never differentiate between small business and multinational corporations, the latter often being the destroyer of the former.)

[999998th word]

17. They're 'job creators' in 'emerging markets'

:puke:

[ProgressiveEconomist]

18. Like "Homeland Security", it's very Germanic. "Arbeitgeber" ("work-giver") is

German for "employer".

Given globalization trends, it might be more accurate to call employers "job OFFSHORERS"! than "job-creators".

[999998th word]

21. Not Employees anymore ,Human Resources....

Always sounded so 'Soylent Green'.:puke: :puke:

[Javaman]

20. We're no longer citizens but now consumers. nt

[jmowreader]

22. We COULD always adopt Germany's system

Germany's GDP is growing 23 percent faster than ours and their unemployment rate is 52 percent lower, so certainly they must have a better business tax system!

Corporations are subject to Corporate Income Tax. (Corporations in Germany are "limited liability corporation'--GmbH--and stock corporation--AG.) By comparison, in the US the only entities liable to corporate tax rates are Subchapter C corporations; LLCs are taxed on the members' personal tax forms.

The federal corporate tax rate is 15.825 percent--15 percent corporate tax, 0.825 percent "solidarity tax" meant to repay the costs of reunification. This is on your annual profit calculated on the accrual basis accounting method. You may then deduct these things: loss, interest payments and straight-line depreciation. You can carry back and carry forward loss--up to EUR 511,500 carryback, up to EUR 1 million restriction-free carryforward. Carrying forward over EUR 1 million subjects 40 percent of the carryforward to taxation.

Partnerships are taxed like LLC and Subchapter S corporations are in the US, on the owners' personal taxes.

Next comes Trade Tax. All businesses pay this, no matter their form. It varies all over Germany, but is never lower than 7 percent. (They start with a 3.5 percent base rate, then each municipality sets a multiplier of at least 2, but it's normally between 3.5 and 4--so if you're in a town with a multiplier of 4, your trade tax is 14 percent.)

There is also Real Property Tax--2.6 percent of value on single-family homes, 3.5 percent on all other property including commercial real estate. This is not deductible from business taxes--in fact, you can't deduct taxes from taxes in Germany.

Also there is Sales Tax (MwSt) of 7 percent on food and 19 percent on everything else. This isn't deductible either.

It is a tax just like the Republicans demand: simpler, flatter and fairer. However, the actual amount German corporations pay is much, much higher than American corporations do. German corporations realize the excellent roads and rail system they enjoy are not brought by der Osterhase oder der Weinachtsmann.

I love Eric Cantor on this one: "The Germans lowered corporate taxes! We must lower corporate taxes to be competitive with them!" Yeah, yeah...the Germans taxed the shit out of the corporations before and they still tax the shit out of the corporations.