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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:44 PM
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New York Times Op-Ed: "Barack Obama wants a right-leaning deficit deal"


Op-Ed Columnist
The Method to Their Madness
By ROSS DOUTHAT
July 11, 2011

The Republican Party’s strategy in the debt-ceiling negotiations has baffled centrists and vindicated liberals. For months, the party’s leaders have repeatedly turned down deals that would cut spending significantly because their members won’t compromise on taxes. To moderates, this intransigence is inexplicable: Are they crazy? To the left, it’s all-too-predictable: See, we told you they were crazy!

Barack Obama wants a right-leaning deficit deal. For months, liberals have expressed frustration with the president’s deficit strategy. The White House made no effort to tie a debt ceiling vote to the extension of the Bush tax cuts last December. It pre-emptively conceded that any increase in the ceiling should be accompanied by spending cuts. And every time Republicans dug in their heels, the administration gave ground.

The not-so-secret secret is that the White House has given ground on purpose. Just as Republicans want to use the debt ceiling to make the president live with bigger spending cuts than he would otherwise support, Obama’s political team wants to use the leverage provided by those cra-a-a-zy Tea Partiers to make Democrats live with bigger spending cuts than they normally would support.

Why? Because the more conservative-seeming the final deal, the better for the president’s re-election effort. In that environment, Republicans have every incentive to push and keep pushing. Since any deal they cut will be used as an election-year prop in 2012, they need to make sure the president actually earns his budget-cutting bona fides.

Read the full Op-Ed at:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/11/opinion/11douthat.html?_r=1&emc=eta1
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:45 PM
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1. By Ross Douthat
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:47 PM
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2. I'm not familiar with him but assume he's a right-wing conservative Republican

Is that correct?
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:50 PM
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5. So, why are you posting an Op-Ed from a right-wing conservative Republican?...nt
Sid
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 11:38 PM
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14. I like articles from all over
it keeps this place from being an echo chamber.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:52 PM
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7. Not sure how far right; haven't read much, but yes, conservative repug.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:48 PM
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3. Is he an approved DU Source or does he have ties to Some Think Tank from the Right?
:shrug:

Since you mentioned him rather than the OP...I felt I needed to ask. I could Google him...but, it's late and I'm going to bed.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:48 PM
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4. The guy who replaced William Kristol as the conservative voice at NY Times...
Why would he be considered a good source by some posters at DU?

Sid
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:50 PM
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6. Douthat is the conservative who replaced Bill Kristol at the Times
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 10:04 PM
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10. Thanks for the info. What do you think of his take on these negotiations?
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:56 PM
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8. Unrec for conservative sourcing...nt
Sid
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 10:03 PM
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9. I don't think we should censor people for Op Ed's in the NYT's...what's with you?
Even if he's conservative...why shouldn't we read what he has to say? Even if we don't like it. Maybe he's a conservative who is "turning." (we should hope)
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 10:13 PM
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13. If I want conservative spin, I'll go looking for it...
This is a partisan website. We don't allow right-wingers to post here. Why should we allow right-wing editorials?

Sid
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 10:05 PM
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11. Who would have more insight into Obama's thinking than a conservative?
Thanks for posting this.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 10:09 PM
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12. Going out on a limb here
and actually quoting the President:

<...>

Q Thank you, Mr. President. You keep talking about balance, shared sacrifice, but in the $4 trillion deal that you’re talking about roughly, it seems to be now at about four-to-one spending to taxes; we’re talking about $800 billion in taxes, roughly. That doesn’t seem very fair to some Democrats. I’m wondering if you could clarify why we’re at that level. And also, if you could clarify your Social Security position -- would any of the money from Social Security, even from just Chained CPI, go toward the deficit as opposed to back into the trust fund?

THE PRESIDENT: With respect to Social Security, Social Security is not the source of our deficit problems. Social Security, if it is part of a package, would be an issue of how do we make sure Social Security extends its life and is strengthened? So the reason to do Social Security is to strengthen Social Security to make sure that those benefits are there for seniors in the out-years. And the reason to include that potentially in this package is if you’re going to take a bunch of tough votes, you might as well do it now, as opposed to trying to muster up the political will to get something done further down in the future.

With respect to a balanced package, is the package that we’re talking about exactly what I would want? No. I might want more revenues and fewer cuts to programs that benefit middle-class families that are trying to send their kids to college, or benefit all of us because we’re investing more in medical research.

So I make no claims that somehow the position that Speaker Boehner and I discussed reflects 100 percent of what I want. But that's the point. My point is, is that I’m willing to move in their direction in order to get something done. And that's what compromise entails. We have a system of government in which everybody has got to give a little bit.

Now, what I will say is, is that the revenue components that we’ve discussed would be significant and would target folks who can most afford it. And if we don't do any revenue -- because you may hear the argument that why not just go ahead and do all the cuts and we can debate the revenue issues in the election -- right? You’ll hear that from some Republicans. The problem is, is that if you don't do the revenues, then to get the same amount of savings you’ve got to have more cuts, which means that it’s seniors, or it’s poor kids, or it’s medical researchers, or it’s our infrastructure that suffers.

And I do not want, and I will not accept, a deal in which I am asked to do nothing, in fact, I’m able to keep hundreds of thousands of dollars in additional income that I don’t need, while a parent out there who is struggling to figure out how to send their kid to college suddenly finds that they’ve got a couple thousand dollars less in grants or student loans.

That’s what the revenue debate is about. It’s not because I want to raise revenues for the sake of raising revenues, or I’ve got some grand ambition to create a bigger government. It’s because if we’re going to actually solve the problem, there are a finite number of ways to do it. And if you don’t have revenues, it means you are putting more of a burden on the people who can least afford it. And that’s not fair. And I think the American people agree with me on that.

<...>

Not as good as multiple anonymous sources, but...

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