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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:35 AM Original message |
Bullshit Mr. president, make them blink, call their bluff stop dancing on the head of a pin |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
1. Any strategy designed to decieve the enemy is likely to confuse the allies as well. n/t |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. And very likely to make him a one term president. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:41 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. That would be unfortunate. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:44 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. LOL! Blaming the voters is pathetic. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:50 AM Response to Reply #6 |
13. "Fault" isn't a concept I use much in these debates. |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:52 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. It isn't about Obama winning or losing, it is about the people. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:55 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. People decide whether he wins or loses. n/t |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:58 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Yes, so you reinforced my point. It is about the people and their living conditions. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:46 AM Response to Reply #20 |
30. And if he loses, he has by definition employed a *losing strategy*. |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #13 |
28. Then just why do we see what needs to be done and why and Obama does not? |
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global1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:58 AM Response to Reply #6 |
22. If He Fails To Win Re-election Any Gains That He Gets During This Negotiation....... |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:49 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Or it means the pain of living with these policies got people off their ass. |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:09 AM Response to Reply #3 |
25. +100 Well said. nt |
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LaurenG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:41 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. There is nothing to be confused over. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:41 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. All warfare is based on deception. (Sun Tzu) n/t |
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LaurenG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:47 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. All deception in the course of life is indeed nothing else but a lie reduced to |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:50 AM Response to Reply #5 |
14. You need the support of the people (Sun Tzu) |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:53 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. I would agree, and I'm pointing out a difficult dilemma. |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:57 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. My intellectual honesty is based on what I and the people I know experience. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:45 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. You assume there is more to his strategy than saving political face. |
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FLyellowdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:47 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I believe Pres. Obama is a better person than that. nt. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:48 AM Original message |
He may be better than that, but I am not sure he is stronger than that. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:52 AM Response to Reply #7 |
16. I'm not sure he's really engaged in that because no matter how long the list |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:11 AM Response to Reply #16 |
26. yup nt |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
29. In other words, 30-Dimensional Chess. lol. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:31 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Global warming deniers like to make a joke out of cold winters. n/t |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
10. Their bluff is his bluff. |
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Chipper Chat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
12. I think he just said that. |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
17. HE KNOWS that the tea party caucus *WANTS* and *DEMANDS* a government default. |
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lib2DaBone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
19. Mr. Obama today, "It's tough for a family making $80,000 a year...." |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:08 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. just goes to show just how removed from reality he is. nt |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. $80K / year? |
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xphile (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:40 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. They're either invisible or they don't exist. Because I don't recall hearing about them from the |
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