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rdking647 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 01:29 AM
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a few hundred votes
a few hundred votes in 2000 gave ue 8 years of shrub. I hear some on the left yelling that if Obama cuts this or cuts that or does this or that they wont support him in 2012.
remember that a few hundred votes gave us shrub.. do you really want to repeat that?
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rdking647 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 01:36 AM
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1. and lets look at what that would cost
Edited on Sat Jul-09-11 01:37 AM by rdking647
abortion rights--- out the window as the new rethug would probably get to nominate a new supreme court judge to replace ginsberg
DOMA: the law of the land
Obama care: gone
SS and medicare Gone or radically reduced.
Dept of education. cut to ribbons
unemployment get a job you bum


etc etc etc.
but at least some on teh left will be able to say " i stood up for my principles". but of course that wont help them when they are out on teh street with no unemployment,no healthcare,pregnant with no options...

and i expect many of the radical left will unrec this but it doesnt matter. it doesnt change facts....

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 01:38 AM
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2. DOMA is the law of the land, what is "Obama Care" & the Dept. of Education is a disgrace.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 01:43 AM
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4. DOMA will be gone soon under Obama, under the GOP it will remain. n/t
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CarmanK Donating Member (459 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 02:50 AM
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9. I would vote for Obama over any Repug thug!
My concern is that if the President is really not worried about a second term, then perhaps he should step aside and let some worthy democrat who really is interested in being President and getting the job done for all of america. He is too blase about the fact that he would rather be a good one term president than a mediocre two termer. Well I contend that he has not been all that he can be as a first term president, but he doesn't seem to recognize that there is room for improvement and perhaps all those repugs who want him to fail and are willing to take the country down in order to achieve a political goal really mean it and are committing a treasonous act. I want Obama to get out there with a democratic message. Look what is happening in WI! Benton Harbor, MI is the poster child for TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION and the Holder DOJ is doing nothing to protect those people from state tyranny. The repugs may implode, but they are doing a lot of damage. Obama could halt some of the damage they are doing with malice against our democracy and our working people.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 01:39 AM
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3. I can't think of a worse fate for our country. nt
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 01:48 AM
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5. Then, if Obama want the votes of the left he should appeal to the left.
As it is, he is appealing to the right and the moderates with the expectation that the Left will believe that it has nowhere to go and will, again, hold their noses in fear of the greater of two evils.

Gore made that mistake. Do you really want to repeat that?
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rdking647 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 01:50 AM
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6. its the moderates that decide elections.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 01:56 AM
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8. And, that's what Gore went after. Why did he lose if that's the winning formula?
And, if that's truly the case you needn't worry about the left voting otherwise...just like Gore didn't.
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rdking647 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 08:46 AM
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12. who do you think there are more of?
moderates or the far left?
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:41 AM
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16. How many Democratic "moderates" voted for Bush?
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rdking647 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 08:47 AM
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13. there are more moderates than leftists
like it or not thats the fact...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 01:51 AM
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7. It wasn't a few hundred votes. It was a concerted plan by BushCo.
Probably a couple of hundred thousand votes if you run down all the voters Jeb took off the rolls illegally and all the rest of the dirty tricks.

Plus later, the media outfit that covered the election conceded that Gore won Florida.

But if you're asking if Social Security or Medicare are worth fighting for, then, yes, they are.

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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 03:02 AM
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10. It's always either Nader, Naderites, Hippies, or Professional Leftists
How quickly we forget the THEFT of the election, which in fact was determined behind closed doors with an "electorate" of 9.
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divvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 04:30 AM
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11. I would prefer that the REPUBLICANS, not the DEMOCRATS screw it up.
so yes, let them have 4 more years of republican control. Maybe we need to weed the party a bit.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 08:50 AM
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14. We need a new avatar for these threads.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 08:51 AM
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15. We're all almost republicans as it is, if we have to support this shit.
time to rebuild the party.

Move the fuck on and start the task of rebuilding it. It has been taken over by people who don't give a shit about us.
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