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waronignorance Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 09:46 AM
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Bachmann Pledges to Ban Porn But Did She Expose 23 Minors to Pedophile?
Michele Bachmann Exposes 23 Minors to Possible Pedophile?

Let me state at the outset that everything you will read after this sentence is based on logic, but only as logic applies to someone with Michele Bachmann’s belief system; if Bachmann really believes what she claims to believe, then her conduct in exposing 23 minors to whatever risks her home might have posed to those minors raises many uncomfortable questions ...

The Bachmanns indict themselves.

Article:
http://beeryblog.wordpress.com/2011/07/03/michele-bachmann-exposes-23-minors-to-possible-pedophile/

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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 09:54 AM
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1. Time to review this classic study:

Is Homo p h o b i a As soc iat ed Wi th Homo s e x u a l Arousal?
H e n r y E. Adams, Lester W. Wright, Jr., and Be thany A. L o h r
U n i v e r s i t y o f G e o r g i a


The authors investigated the role o f homosexual arousal in exclusively heterosexual men who ad-
mitted negative affect toward homosexual individuals. Participants consisted o f a group o f homo-
phobic men (n = 35) and a group o f nonhomophobic men (n = 29); they were assigned to groups
on the basis o f their scores on the Index o f Homophobia (W. W. Hudson & W. A. Ricketts, 1980).
The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting o f heterosexual, male homosex-
ual, and lesbian videotapes, and changes in penile circumference were monitored. They also com-
pleted an Aggression Questionnaire (A. H. Buss & M. Perry, 1992 ). Both groups exhibited increases
in penile circumference to the heterosexual and female homosexual videos. Only the homophobic
men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in
aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic
individual is either unaware o f or denies.

Full report available here:
https://my.psychologytoday.com/files/u47/Henry_et_al.pdf
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 09:57 AM
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2. Yours is my new favorite blog.
Thanks for posting!
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 10:07 AM
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3. +1
good stuff!
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waronignorance Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 12:43 PM
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33. Our pleasure!
Thanks geardaddy. We'll try and play our part to call out these bizarre hypocrites. Keep up the fight!
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 10:10 AM
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4. So you're posting something that requires one to draw an intellectual link between homosexuality and
pedophilia.

Shameful.

Alerted and unrecced.
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vanbean Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 10:16 AM
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6. Huh?
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 10:18 AM
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8. Reading comprehension fail.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 10:23 AM
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14. Did you bother to read the link?
It is about Bachman's self-contradictory stance on homosexuality and pedophilia.

YOU are not asked to make that connection - BACHMAN makes that connection.

Then it makes a fairly strong case for hubby Bachman to be a deeply closeted homosexual - which SHE equates with being a pedophile - and asks, Why have they fostered so many, many children if homosexual hubby (who 'cures' homosexuality) is a pedophile (which is incurable).

Remember, these are HER stances, based on HER statements - not those of the article's author.
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 11:22 AM
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19. Bachman makes that connection. To draw attention to it as an issue
requires YOU to make that connection, and take it seriously.

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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 11:40 AM
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21. You don't understand what the issue is.
It is not homosexuality. It is not pedophilia. It is the hypocrisy inherent in Bachman's world view.

From the single, well supported premise that the most virulent anti-gays are masking their own self-loathed inclinations, it is posited that hubby is gay.

SHE believes that there is no difference between gays and pedophiles - she has said as much. She believes that gays can be cured - that's hubby's con-job. She believes that pedophiles CANNOT be cured - she has said as much.

Hubby = gay (cured) = pedophile (uncured) = risk to her children, natural and fostered.

So, by her world view she must believe that hubby MUST be a threat to children.

At the same time, she obviously does NOT believe he is a threat to children, or she would not be bringing children into his house.

Or, she knows he is a threat, and doesn't care if the children are at risk.

Or, she knows that homosexuality does NOT = pedophilia, and she is an obvious liar.

Or, she really believes that homosexuality = pedophilia, and she is guilty of child abuse.

Or, she is a 'good christian woman' who defers to her husband, so her thought about it don't matter - nevermind that she can't refrain from making those thoughts a cornerstone of her political rhetoric.

The levels of hypocrisy are staggering - and NONE if it requires anyone else to accept her warped, bizarre world view. Only to recognize what HER world view is.
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 11:46 AM
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22. Then why does the title ask if she exposed her children to pedophilia?
Sarcastic titles with ironic humor do NO good in this situation.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 12:04 PM
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25. .
:eyes:
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Newest Reality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 10:15 AM
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5. What a horror show!
One grows weary watching the cavalcade of people publicly exposing their relationships and struggles with their own, repressed shadows.

What is worse is observing that struggle as a highlight of modern politics where those shadows appeal to the shadows of a portion of the public.

What is most troubling is then seeing acceptance of a push to legislate the shadows so that they are cast on the lives of others.

Inflicting parental control on millions of adult citizens is not an effective or healthy way to solve personal, subjective problems. It does create constrictions and foment tyranny, though.

Hence, those shadow runners continue their behavior and often get worse because their victory over the freedom of others has only a short-lived reward. They are still left with the internal conflict of their own, divided nature. They continue to rally to control and enforce and attempt the impossible: legislating morality.

This behavior is a harmful affront to our collective psyche and the corporate media feeds it well.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 10:17 AM
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7. I see what the blog is doing, and I think it's a pretty big reach.
Edited on Fri Jul-08-11 10:20 AM by Brickbat
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 10:20 AM
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9. Indeed, it might be a reach.
Edited on Fri Jul-08-11 10:22 AM by geardaddy
but it points out the hypocrisy of the Bachmann.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 10:20 AM
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10. I did. But never in a million years would Michelle admit her husband is gay, if he is.
Edited on Fri Jul-08-11 10:20 AM by Brickbat
I find the whole thing convoluted.
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 10:22 AM
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12. I see your point.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 11:48 AM
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23. I mean, believe me, I think she's batshit and he has serious issues.
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 10:22 AM
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11. Porcine looking chap, isn't he?
Looks sorta like Newty's younger brother.
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 10:23 AM
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13. Marcus Bachmann
is a hate mongering bigot. That is fact. The rest of your OP is speculation. Salacious speculation. Alerted and unrec.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 10:38 AM
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16. Of course it is speculation - but the speculation is based on a single question:
Why is he a hate mongering bigot?

If you accept the well-supported thesis that the most virulent anti-gay bigots are themselves deeply repressed and closeted gays, the rest of the piece is merely an exercise in logic.
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 11:25 AM
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20. I think that some anti gay bigots could be
repressed homosexuals or at least have same sex attraction. "Most" or all. No, just because you hate gay folks doesn't make you gay.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 12:02 PM
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24. There are bigots, and there are bigots.
The casual "but some of my best friends are gay" bigots - no. They aren't likely to be repressed/closeted gays. Those who make careers out of their bigotry, who obsess on it, who are the leaders in the gay-bashing gang - yeah. They got issues.

Obama's apparent distaste for gays, and his discomfort at the thought of gay marriage does not make him a secret gay. I actually think he IS evolving in his views. He might even get around to doing something about DOMA, sometime in his second term (if he gets one). His is a casual, cultural bigotry. He doesn't hate gays, and even recognizes the legitimacy of gay right - he has trouble reconciling that with his religious beliefs.

Marcus Bachman, who obsesses on gays, hating them while at the same time surrounding himself with them in his so-called psychological practice, trying to 'cure' them (side note: most people go into psychology to try to figure out their own issues) is a classic case of sublimation. I reckon it's only a matter of time before he's found in an airport bathroom stall with a teenage boy.

In fact, I suspect that Michelle's gay hatred comes from her having caught him at some point - and now she's out to get 'those people' who lured her hubby into sin (which he, of course, has cured himself of). That, of course, is pure speculation.

Hate is an extraordinarily powerful emotion. Obsessive hate MUST come from a very deep pit within a person. And what they focus their hate on is a reflection of what they hate about themselves.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 12:06 PM
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26. Your "well-supported thesis" is thinly veiled homophobia
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 12:12 PM
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29. Thank you. nt
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 12:48 PM
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30. Do you REALLY want me to post a list of virulent anti-gay pols & preachers
who turned out to be gay?

Do you want a list of peer-reviewed papers that show a connection between anti-gay bigotry and repressed homosexuality?

Do your own goddam homework.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 02:31 PM
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31. No I really want you to stop implying that homosexuals are to blame for homophobia
Edited on Fri Jul-08-11 02:32 PM by kenny blankenship
I really, really think you ought to stop.

PS: I don't care if you claim to be gay or not when you post homophobic theories.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 03:05 PM
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32. Your lack of understanding of psychology is almost as astounding
as your ignorance of history.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 10:32 AM
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15. Great work! It is totally logical that
Michelle Bachmann and Marcus endangered children in their care. His "work" is a horror.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 10:41 AM
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17. You mistake logic for confirmation bias and speculation.
They are in no way the same thing.

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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 10:57 AM
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18. Excellent Blog!
Thank you and welcome to DU :hi:

to everyone else read the whole thing. It's Michelle Bachmann's own words. She equals Homosexuality to Pedophilia. Every thing Marcus does and says strikes me of a classical case of self-loathing, closed homosexuality. Michelle obviously picks it up from him because of her obsession with homosexuality. She was seen hiding, watching a group of gay people at their rally. Strange behavior if you ask me.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 12:08 PM
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27. Oh good grief.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 12:11 PM
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28. I will watch porn in my own home if I so choose to do so..
I thought their 'plan' was for less Government, not more? she is a clown.
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