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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:25 PM Original message |
House Dems Scramble After Obama Insists On "Grand Bargain " |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
1. More rightwing spin from AOL/HuffPo? The Progressive Caucus DEFENDS Pres. Obama's SS stance. --> |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. You keep repeating that in different threads like it's some talisman against reality. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. It's a fact that bears repeating, considering the amount of misleading MSM whore shit-stirring OPs. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Simple question, yes or no. Is Social Security on 'the table'? Yes or no. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:37 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Pres. Obama in his SOTU said he'd cut costs and fraud but not benefits. Nothing has changed. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Where's your Yes or No? Carney ain't your spokesperson. How about you say it? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:45 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. NO!! As Pres Obama and the WH has said, SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS ARE NOT ON THE TABLE. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:49 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. That, and the 59 minutes until your editing period expire, satisfy my request. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:52 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. I'm interested in the facts, not your empty negative speculative rhetoric about Pres. Obama. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. I think the key word is "benefits" -- if they can cut costs I'm |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. That has always been the key word but shit-stirrers have always try to hide that distinction. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 08:02 PM Response to Reply #20 |
36. I'm not sure they realize the distinction -- it never dawned on |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 08:04 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. You're too kind. I am under no illusions. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. dupe |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
4. I've heard this before, "grand bargain" == "screw the little guy". nt |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. You do know that the phrase "grand bargain" is Poll_Blind's opinion, not Pres. Obama's words, right? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. You must be some sort of moron if you think anybody invented that recently. nt |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. You must be some of moron if you think I said that. nt |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:40 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. You said it came from Poll Blind. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:43 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. And it did. See the OP text. But I didn't say Poll_Blind invented the phrase, did I? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. I didn't say shit about Poll Blind either, did I? nt |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. I didn't say shit about anybody inventing anything, did I? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:49 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. No, you want to argue about nomenclature, whether "grand bargain" or "grand compromise" is correct. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. I just exposed your strawman fallacy. Moving the goalpost now? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:51 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Pflugh! Nothing happens. nt |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:51 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Actually discussing the content of the OP is anathema to them. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:52 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. But you used the wrong word!!! nt |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:55 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. LOL, tell me about it. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 08:00 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. That's the "grand bargain" we must make. Oh the drama!!!!!!!!! |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. The fearmongering OP headline is AOL MSM whore shit-stirring HuffPo spin. Clyburn is right. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 08:00 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Yeah, heck, nobody should be fearmongering around here, eh? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 08:02 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Especially when the fearmongering is pure speculation that completely ignores the facts. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 08:07 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. So, BEFORE it changes is the right time to let your views be known, right? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 08:08 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Before what? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 08:09 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Well, I think we have wasted enough time on this, have a nice day. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:46 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. Uh, since you can't be bothered to check the linked article apparently... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:50 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Now you've done it. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 08:07 PM Response to Reply #18 |
39. Now you want to argue about nomenclature. |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
7. See, there was NOTHING to get into a tizzy about. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. The deal ain't done till it's done and I've lived long enough to hear politicians sweet talk... |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
30. I think the key distinction is "benefits" which is what I got |
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