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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 01:11 PM
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Republicon on Thom Hartmann suggests hiring ten people at $5 hr instead of
5 people at $10 hr. I know a lot of Americans who can survive on $5 hr. :sarcasm:
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 01:13 PM
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1. Howzabout we pay Thom Hartmann $5/hr?
...along with any other asshole who thinks we should ditch minimum wage?
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 01:16 PM
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2. It wasn't Thom Hartmann saying that
It was the right wing libertarian fuck on the phone
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 01:31 PM
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7. Scuse me...I read that incorrectly.
But anyone who agrees with the libertarian dumbfuck, including Michelle Blockhead Bachman, should find out firsthand what it's like to try to live off minimum wage. Then they should have to try living off half that wage.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 01:33 PM
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9. I wish all right wingers had to live off of $5 hr.
The idiot said minimum wage is costing America jobs.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 02:09 PM
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20. It IS costing America jobs.
If it were higher, far more people would actually be able to buy more than the essentials (or just the essentials). Raising the minimum wage would be one of the best things we could do to spur job creation.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 02:24 PM
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22. He said reduce wages and the market would create more jobs.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 02:51 PM
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28. Yeah, likely.
The last several implementations of Reaganomics put a lie to that myth. As Robert Reich recently said, it's the demand, stupid. Until the masses get enough money to buy more than just the essentials, there will be no recovery.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 01:21 PM
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4. How sad...
if you knew a thing about Thom you'd know he'd never, ever condone such a thing.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 01:32 PM
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8. My mistake. I read the thread title incorrectly.
I'm not familiar with Hartman.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 01:34 PM
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10. Watch here.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 01:49 PM
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14. Thanks for the link!
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 01:53 PM
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16. No problem.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 09:18 PM
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38. No problem...
just read where you'd corrected it. Thom is probably the last person on earth to say something like that. ;)
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 10:12 PM
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40. Glad to hear it, and glad to have a link to his broadcast.
I read "Republicon on Thom Hartman" as "Republicon Thom Hartmann"...My poor old brain was playing tricks on me again!
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 01:20 PM
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3. At the End Thom Turned his Question on its head
Edited on Thu Jun-30-11 01:31 PM by fascisthunter
by asking where in the Constitution it said anything about it being illegal for government to create a minimum wage. "GENERAL WELFARE"... it's in there, but does it say government can't look out for the "general welfare" of workers in the US? NOPE!

He's just another sociopath hiding behind a twisting of the Constitution!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 01:24 PM
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5. It wasn't Tom, but his guest
Who also could not handle Smith
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 01:30 PM
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6. He told Thom Hartmann that wages should be paid based on the market.
Edited on Thu Jun-30-11 01:45 PM by ej510
Thom said no one could live on $5 hr and the right wing asshole said so what. Who said anyone should be paid a living wage? Thom said if a business does not want to pay a living wage, then that business should not be in business.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 01:40 PM
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11. I know, they'd love the Stweart industrial code
Maximum wages. I was making sure to clarify it was not Thom though.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 01:42 PM
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12. Hell, why not hire 100 people, give them corbread and molasses and an overseer?
We could call it "Our Peculiar Institution" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peculiar_institution.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 01:48 PM
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13. Why not bring back slavery? Who could beat those wages?
:sarcasm:
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BobbyBoring Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 02:28 PM
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23. I think that's the plan
I'm not playing.............
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 02:33 PM
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24. A libertarian paradise where the wealthy live on a hill protected by the military from us poor
folks.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 02:22 PM
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21. Give'em time. That's the goal.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 01:53 PM
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15. He/She may be on to something, they could hire 5000 people at .01 an hour.
Unemployment would evaporate!:bounce:

Thanks for the thread, ej.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 01:54 PM
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17. Those people would actually make a wage.
:sarcasm:
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 02:08 PM
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19. Not after the Republicans tax them to pay for the rich folk's corporate jets.
But somebody's got to sacrifice for the good of the nation, it might as well be the poor, weak, "least among us," middle class, old, sick, down and out.

This could finally give the Republicans an environmental policy, let them eat Soylent Green.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 02:35 PM
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25. That's Michelle Bachmann's platform.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 01:58 PM
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18. Except that the job requres 1 person.
So, what fool is going to hire 10 people to do a job that requires 1 person? No, what will happen is that you will end up with 1 person being paid 5, and the rest going hungry, because that person making 5 can barely feed themselves and is not buying anything other than food.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 02:37 PM
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26. BINGO n/t
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 03:12 PM
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30. Exactly. So long as there are nine hungry people willing to work for $5, wages will never go up. n/t
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 02:40 PM
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27. How about 10 teachers at $100,000 each / yr ....
instead of 1 useless hedgefund manager at $1,000,000/yr?
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 03:10 PM
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29. Or10,000 teachers instead of a billion dollar 'bonus' for said manager? n/t
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 03:17 PM
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31. Nah that might actually help people a little bit, so we must do the
alternative. Free labor.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 03:20 PM
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32. See? If we can't have a pittance, then at least we can have a crumb!
And look up to those lucky few $10/hour pittance winners, and aspire to BE them someday! The Republican plan is working perfectly.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 03:24 PM
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33. And republicons call liberals evil.
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toddwv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 03:41 PM
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34. Or fire all the executives and pay the workers $250,000+ to make decisions
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:58 PM
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35. Who can survive on $10/hr?
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 05:03 PM
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36. No one and the libertarian idiot did not care about a living wage, he
shunned it.
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glen123098 Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 10:21 PM
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41. I survive on 8.25 an hour.
Edited on Thu Jun-30-11 10:25 PM by glen123098
I rent a house for 450 a month that has seen better days. (it was actually cheaper than any 1 room apartment we could find) Me and my fiance split the rent. We looked up how much it appraised for, 17,000. The house next door is abandoned with a bunch of junk outside. Our neighbor on the other side is a car lot, which feels the need to constantly play loud base, which there is little we can do about. We live in a high crime area. We have been in this house for 4 months, and someone has already tried to break in in the middle of the night. I drive a car that is a hand me down from my mother. My fiance says this is the wealthiest she has ever been, and I think its an ok place to be. But this would be no way to raise a family, so I dont know how someone could support a family with this low of a wage. I can get by, living frugally.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 10:24 PM
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42. Where do you live? You are one of the few.
I live in CA.
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glen123098 Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 10:26 PM
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43. Central Illinois
Cost of living is very low here. There is no way I could do this in california.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 05:50 PM
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37. Cheap Labor Cons, That's their whole platform. Right now they're salivating
over the prospect of millions of desperate, and hungry baby boomers to hire as cheap labor when they decimate Social Security.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 09:30 PM
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39. Republicons envy dictator nations.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 10:27 PM
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44. OK -- let's start with members of Congress -- !!
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