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LetTimmySmoke Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 09:22 AM
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I was wrong about same-sex marriage - David Frum
Washington (CNN) -- I was a strong opponent of same-sex marriage. Fourteen years ago, Andrew Sullivan and I forcefully debated the issue at length online (at a time when online debate was a brand new thing).

Yet I find myself strangely untroubled by New York state's vote to authorize same-sex marriage -- a vote that probably signals that most of "blue" states will follow within the next 10 years.

I don't think I'm alone in my reaction either. Most conservatives have reacted with calm -- if not outright approval -- to New York's dramatic decision.

Why?

The short answer is that the case against same-sex marriage has been tested against reality. The case has not passed its test.

Link - http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/06/27/frum.gay.marriage/index.html?hpt=po_r1

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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 09:25 AM
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1. Nothing like 'reality.' I admire Frum for acknowledging it.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 09:28 AM
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2. Evolution has many faces...n/t
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 09:59 AM
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3. That last statement is true of every Republican position
"...the case against <insert Republican bogeyman here> has been tested against reality. The case has not passed its test."

I'm glad he is "untroubled" by the right of gay people to marry, although it would be nice if he were instead, like me, overjoyed.

Maybe one day Frum will wake up and also smell the coffee on union rights, environmental protections, higher taxes on the top 1 percent of income, publicly financed education, compassionate immigration reform, a sane military policy, campaign finance reform, etc.
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iemitsu Donating Member (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 10:42 AM
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4. glad to see frum acknowledges that he was wrong
but he seems to base his sense of the strength of the family unit on just divorce rates and "in-marriage" births.
these might not really be related to family values at all.
there is some evidence that divorce rates are lower because people can't afford to separate. this is a sign of lousy times not family strength.
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