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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 09:54 AM Original message |
CooL!!! SOLAR BREAKTHROUGH |
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a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
1. k &r |
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get the red out (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
2. Wonderful! |
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meow mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
3. cue the "this is far to harmful to produce these" defeatists |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 10:48 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Nah, just the ones who have lost count of all the BREAKTHROUGHS... |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 12:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. Cars would have proved impractical if the US Govt (Fed/State) hadn't paved the entire country. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 12:20 AM Response to Reply #19 |
64. Government also put the "four gas stations on every corner" ... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 12:39 AM Response to Reply #64 |
72. No. The government made the corners on which the gas stations |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 12:43 AM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Government/taxpayers PAID for the four gas stations on every corner .... |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 09:23 AM Response to Reply #19 |
87. Good points |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 12:38 AM Response to Reply #8 |
71. It's oil and more and more iol that is impractical to implement. |
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Kablooie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 11:42 AM Response to Reply #3 |
14. Three baby seals must be slaughtered to produce one solar panel. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 08:03 PM Response to Reply #14 |
48. But I heard it is only the "naughty" baby seals |
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Unca Jim (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 08:56 PM Response to Reply #14 |
54. In that case... |
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Ruby the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 06:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
40. I wish I had southern facing windows. |
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StarsInHerHair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 01:12 AM Response to Reply #40 |
78. nah your friendly local power plant may build a crop-circle of mirrors to boil |
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Ruby the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 05:38 PM Response to Reply #78 |
97. Unfortunately, I live within 50 miles of 3 nuclear plants. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 06:18 AM Response to Reply #3 |
83. Just like CFLs. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
4. Simple, let brilliant. |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
5. K&R! We need more aggressive solar development to stretch our oil supplies. |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 11:18 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Unless you go to electric vehicles |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 12:15 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. I'd like to see electric vehicles too. |
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Devil_Fish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 11:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
61. Ask and you shall receive: Nissan Leaf, 100% Electric, no tail pipe. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 12:45 AM Response to Reply #61 |
75. Wow! Great looking car. |
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relayerbob (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #12 |
41. We do, however, |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 12:27 AM Response to Reply #41 |
66. We have to stop burning fossil fuels ... and Obama has to stop pushing oil and coal -- !! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 12:26 AM Response to Reply #12 |
65. Agree -- however, MIC uses 80% of our oil -- end the wars!! |
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StarsInHerHair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 12:51 AM Response to Reply #65 |
76. I've been saying we should use Roman Conrcete for our roads, it lasted |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 10:57 AM Response to Reply #76 |
92. Wow -- didn't know that -- !! |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 08:42 PM Response to Reply #5 |
53. the developments are all there, all ready. We just need the will. There is solar paint, |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 12:32 AM Response to Reply #53 |
68. Didn't know that about electric cars outfitted with solar panels which provided a/c 15 years ago! |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 10:33 AM Response to Reply #68 |
90. there is a film, documentary called who killed the electric car. When I went to see it, the real |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 10:55 AM Response to Reply #90 |
91. "Who Killed The Electric Car?" ... wonderful movie -- |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
6. That's two "solar breakthrough" stories in one week |
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StarsInHerHair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 12:57 AM Response to Reply #6 |
77. solar parking lot "trees" from 2010 |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 11:05 AM Response to Reply #77 |
93. Thanks -- |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
7. I'd have the same problem with these as regular solar panels with a shaded homesite. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 12:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. The windows themselves are providing shade. |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 06:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. Right and that's helpful if you have a sunny homesite but if your homesite is in the shade... |
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FailureToCommunicate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 07:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
44. There are solutions for some problems... |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 07:58 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. That is not a solution as it sets your conservation back a hundred years. |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
9. Kicked and recommended. |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
10. That's amazing! The media needs to start talking about this. nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 12:34 AM Response to Reply #10 |
69. I doubt that will happen -- !!! |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
11. K & R n/t |
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pansypoo53219 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
13. but don't you understand. the sun is FREE. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 11:53 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. So is oil, for that matter |
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canoeist52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 03:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. Except that sunlight can't be depleted through use. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 03:03 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Which is irrelevant to the point to which I was replying |
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canoeist52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 04:05 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. "oil is free in the ground for the taking " Not so. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 04:13 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Then it's a good thing that semiconductor processing used in solar production is pollution free! |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 06:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
35. Actually it's not... |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 08:57 PM Response to Reply #35 |
55. Because financing the purchase of a solar PV system is free! |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 06:01 PM Response to Reply #55 |
98. Yeah |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 12:38 AM Response to Reply #15 |
70. Oil is free, ONLY in the sense that it's a national resource -- however .... |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 12:23 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. That's okay, they are now beginning to tax wind, they will figure a way to tax solar. |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Really? I had not heard that. Do you have a link or a story I could google? |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 12:20 AM Response to Reply #13 |
63. and we don't know where it goes at night... |
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slampoet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
17. This beakthrough is at least two years old. I read about it long ago. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. not everyone here has read what you read two years ago |
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theophilus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 06:40 PM Response to Reply #17 |
39. This sort of proves a point. We hear about the breakthroughs but when |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 11:12 AM Response to Reply #17 |
95. According to their website, this product delivers 4x the power density of comparible BIPV |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
18. recommend |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
24. Shingles should be solar too |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 06:39 PM Response to Reply #24 |
38. There are solar shingles and flexible solar panels for metal roofs |
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Johnny Noshoes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 07:07 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. When you planned to build your home |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 09:46 PM Response to Reply #43 |
58. No, I did not see that business |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 08:27 PM Response to Reply #38 |
51. don't "need" to google.. I know these exist now, but if more $ had gone into perfecting the process |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 05:53 AM Response to Reply #51 |
80. yes, that's the tragedy |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
28. Way Cool !!! - K & R !!! |
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Bennyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
30. Solar + Electric Vehicle= Fvck the ENERGY CORPORATIONS... |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 08:05 PM Response to Reply #30 |
49. I imagine a lot less maintenance. |
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PotatoChip (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
31. K & R!!! |
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bongbong (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
33. Favorite phrase of conservatives & other corporate tools |
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russspeakeasy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
34. Thanks for the post.. |
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theophilus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
36. Doubleplusgood! And the chocolate ration has been increased! |
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PuffedMica (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
37. K&R |
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RedCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
42. Now make collectors that we can plug our Xmas lights in! |
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Weird Liberal Head (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
45. Awwww |
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DRoseDARs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
46. Not really a "breakthough" given solar PV windows have been available for the past few years now. |
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Distant Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 08:59 PM Response to Reply #46 |
56. Depends on the COST per sq ft and installation etc. PV windows have been prohibitively expensive in |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 12:42 AM Response to Reply #56 |
73. POLLUTION is prohibitively expensive .... as in Global Warming ...!! |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
50. That is soooooooooooooooooooo cool!!! |
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joanbarnes (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
52. Yes we can! Create new technology when we get desperate enough. |
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unkachuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
57. Great!....where's San Mateo, China?....n/t |
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anthroman (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
59. Solar will be economic when there are only 500 million people... |
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sce56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
60. Will they come in Port hole sizes? I could allways use more solar power for my batteries! |
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Devil_Fish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 11:43 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Checl out Grape Solar. |
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cstanleytech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 12:29 AM Response to Original message |
67. hmm I doubt it would be practical yet for most of us here though upgrading |
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DesertDiamond (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 03:57 AM Response to Original message |
79. Love this! My only question is the same as always: can it be made affordable for people like me? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 11:10 AM Response to Reply #79 |
94. We need to end the MIC and start investing in environment and humans -- !! |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 05:56 AM Response to Original message |
81. we need to replace "drill baby drill" with something more catchy |
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chillspike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 05:58 AM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Shine, baby, shine? (nt) |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 05:38 PM Response to Reply #82 |
96. that's good!!! |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 06:45 AM Response to Original message |
84. Wow! What a great idea! |
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timmymoff (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
85. solar |
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FLPanhandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
86. I wouldn't install these yet. |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
88. bravo |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
89. OMG what about the poor people in the petroleum industry that could lose their jobs? |
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