Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Guardian: Pregnant Women Who Lose Babies Face Murder Charges

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
 
amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 11:35 PM
Original message
Guardian: Pregnant Women Who Lose Babies Face Murder Charges
Outcry in America as pregnant women who lose babies face murder charges
Women's rights campaigners see the creeping criminalisation of pregnant women as a new front in the culture wars over abortion

Rennie Gibbs is accused of murder, but the crime she is alleged to have committed does not sound like an ordinary killing. Yet she faces life in prison in Mississippi over the death of her unborn child.

Gibbs became pregnant aged 15, but lost the baby in December 2006 in a stillbirth when she was 36 weeks into the pregnancy. When prosecutors discovered that she had a cocaine habit – though there is no evidence that drug abuse had anything to do with the baby's death – they charged her with the "depraved-heart murder" of her child, which carries a mandatory life sentence.

Gibbs is the first woman in Mississippi to be charged with murder relating to the loss of her unborn baby. But her case is by no means isolated. Across the US more and more prosecutions are being brought that seek to turn pregnant women into criminals.

"Women are being stripped of their constitutional personhood and subjected to truly cruel laws," said Lynn Paltrow of the campaign National Advocates for Pregnant Women (NAPW). "It's turning pregnant women into a different class of person and removing them of their rights."

snip

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/24/america-pregnant-women-murder-charges
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 11:37 PM
Response to Original message
1. well, that's America.
Glad I'm finally getting the hell out.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 11:44 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. Please take me with you! Please?!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kurmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 11:48 PM
Response to Original message
3. The pursuit of profit leads to mission creep.
"South Carolina was one of the first states to introduce such a foetal homicide law. National Advocates for Pregnant Women has found only one case of a South Carolina man who assaulted a pregnant woman having been charged under its terms, and his conviction was eventually overturned. Yet the group estimates there have been up to 300 women arrested for their actions during pregnancy."

Unfreaking believable!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ohheckyeah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 11:58 PM
Response to Original message
4. I wonder when women of
child bearing age are going to fight back?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 11:59 PM
Response to Original message
5. It's all about men controlling women. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-11 12:02 AM
Response to Original message
6. K & R n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DrinkBeerNotTea Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-11 12:21 AM
Response to Original message
7. Handmaid's Tale
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-11 01:09 AM
Response to Original message
8. Wealthy women receiving good prenatal care will be protected...
since their physicians will presumably be able to interject should a miscarriage occur resulting in questions. Of course the poor will be once again victimized, since their miscarriages may well have occurred sans any health care.

This is an atrocity. Imagine the worldwide outrage if a visiting tourist were to miscarry and get caught up in this.

I certainly don't hate men... but damn it progressive men of all stripes need to stand up to those who would take these steps to control and destroy women.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
donobry Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-11 02:50 AM
Response to Reply #8
12. WHAT?!?!?!
Originally Posted by Wimdu Mon Jun-27-11 05:35 AM

Guardian: Pregnant Women Who Lose Babies Face Charges

"Women are being stripped of their constitutional personhood and subjected to truly cruel laws," said Lynn Paltrow of the campaign National Advocates for Pregnant Women (NAPW). "It's turning pregnant women into a different class of person and removing them of their rights."

snip

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/24/america-pre...


This is absolutely unbelievable. It is criminalizing women for something, in the most part, beyond their control. Many 'respectable' women smoke or drink for example during pregnancy, and that does damage to the baby, but the likelihood of them going to court is negligible.

And where does this policy stop. Do we do an autopsy to discover it the sperm or the egg was faulty. Do we arrest people who accidentally got pregnant and didn't initially want the baby. It is utter madness
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-11 03:59 AM
Response to Reply #12
13. Absolutely...
Women are being stripped of their basic human rights. While we have been focused on marriage rights for GLBT (which I do absolutely support), nonetheless it has allowed the RW to increasingly revert women to a status less than chattel. Who will stand up with us against this? My generation fought damned hard for ERA, birth control and the right to choose. All those rights are being chipped away... If women don't have control over their own body, they have no right to autonomy. They are not equal in the eyes of the law.

Yet, I am always amazed at how many people believe that the failure to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment (ERA) is inconsequential (or think it WAS ratified--which is common among young women).... This is the consequence-- the apathy, the ignorance is destroying American democracy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CarmanK Donating Member (459 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-11 01:12 AM
Response to Original message
9. This adherence to ideology is absurd.
The republican legislators are getting away with stripping women of their rights state by state. The idea that they can bestow personhood on an EGG, with no basis in science is an abomination. It is a means to strip women, not just pregnant women of their equal rights guaranteed under the constitution.women are being stripped of their equal rights and rights to privacy under Roe vs Wade, state by state. And is widespread now because the repugs are in charge in red states and can rely on this SCOTUS to over turn RvW if given the opportunity.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-11 01:37 AM
Response to Reply #9
11. So, why are they not arresting men who have vasectomies...
think of all the little sperm they've killed....:sarcasm:

Next they will outlaw tubal ligations for women, no doubt. :eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
StarsInHerHair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-11 01:31 AM
Response to Original message
10. so WHERE are the Dems passing laws to stop such madness being passed in
THEIR States? THIS is the way to do, to mandate protections in BEFORE the Pro-Fetus madmen get to introduce their regressive Dark Age "morality". How soon til they once again blame the women for the gender of the baby, too?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-11 02:42 PM
Response to Original message
14. kick for the afternoon
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-11 03:21 PM
Response to Original message
15. Can we implant embryo's in the abdomens of Miss Legislators?
Let them experience the whole "Junior" thing firsthand.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 08:37 PM
Response to Original message
16. Kick !!!
:kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 08:49 PM
Response to Original message
17. Good lord! What have we become? Incubators for the state's children?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun May 05th 2024, 06:54 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC