Freeper cites "new scientific poll" as PROOF that HALF of Americans are BIRTHERS. They are SERIES111

[Amerigo Vespucci]

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Half of Americans want Congress to probe Obama's eligibility
WND ^ | June 26, 2011 | Bob Unruh

Posted on Sunday, June 26, 2011 2:37:43 PM by RobinMasters

Half of Americans would like to see Congress investigate Barack Obama's eligibility for the presidency and nearly that many believe the definition of the constitutional term "natural born citizen" means both parents must be U.S. citizens, according to a new scientific poll.

"There's no marginalizing those who want this matter investigated by Congress," said Fritz Wenzel of Wenzel Strategies, who conducted the WND/Wenzel Poll telephone survey June 16-19. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.85 points.

"Even among Democrats, more than one in four – 28 percent – said they now want an inquiry, as do 43 percent of independents and 77 percent of Republicans. Interestingly, men are much more skeptical than are women about the question of eligibility – only 42 percent of men said they think Obama proved his eligibility by releasing the electronic birth certificate, compared to 59 percent of women."

The poll indicated 43.5 percent of Americans believe that a Hawaii birth would make no difference in Obama's eligibility, as the Constitution requires both parents of a U.S. president to have been U.S. citizens – and Obama's father was not a citizen.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Where in the Constitution does it say that both parents

of a U.S. president have to be citizens? I must have missed that part when I took constitutional law in law school. Or are they just making shit up?

[rpannier]

5. Making it up or clueless

They're merging two separate requirements

•Anyone born inside the United States *
•Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.

[Motown_Johnny]

8. making shit up, same as always

it says natural born citizen and then does not define the term

[Zoeisright]

17. Yeah - McCain isn't a "natural born citizen", according to my definition.

He wasn't born in the U.S. A naval base may be the U.S. legally, but it isn't U.S. soil.

[COLGATE4]

19. He wasn't even born on a Naval Base. Apparently where

Pop McCain was stationed didn't have a hospital, so they took Mom to a Panamanian hospital. Johnny Boy was born in Panama.

[Motown_Johnny]

23. I have trouble with that

penalizing the children of people serving in the military for being born on a base just doesn't sit right with me

[Jackpine Radical]

20. Patently ridiculous,

NONE of our Presidents were born US citizens, and certainly not born OF US citizens, until we elected someone born after 1781, or whenever it was that we actually can be said to have obtained our independence. (I suppose a case could be made for 1776). Washington, Jefferson, Adams, etc. were all born before there even WAS such a thing as US citizenship.

[rurallib]

2. Got to think Fritz called his friends and neighbors on this poll.

kind of surprised it wasn't 100%

[47of74]

3. Being a member of RimJob's little board does not make one an expert on the Constitution

As it doesn't say a blessed thing about a President's parents in there.

[rpannier]

4. The guy who wrote that is either cherry picking or clueless

"...as the Constitution requires both parents of a U.S. president to have been U.S. citizens."

•Anyone born inside the United States *
•Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.

The writer has taken two separate parts and melded them together

[47of74]

12. Being clueless is pretty much a prerequisite for joining RimJob's little board.

[Gman]

13. The writer didn't do it him/herself

that's their standard unconventional interpretation of the constitution over there.

[jmowreader]

21. The Constitution doesn't define what a "natural born citizen" is

There are other laws that do that.

Here's the wonderful dichotomy we're looking at:

Black guy who was born in a state of the US and who joined the Democratic Party: not eligible to be president
White guy who was born in a foreign country and who joined the Republican Party: eligible to be president, but only if he has a fundamentalist running mate who would shoot him after the inauguration with the same gun she used to miss a caribou four times in a row on national television.

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

6. And way more than half want US out of our wars.

What's more important?

[Arkana]

7. So a crazy right-wing organization (WND) paid a pollster

to give them whatever results they wanted, and in the diseased, degraded minds of Freepers, this is a "new scientific poll".

[Liberal Veteran]

9. Asking your Mother-Sister and Brother-Uncle isn't a large enough sample size.

Much like the freeper gene pool.

[Kingofalldems]

10. This is HUGH!!

[malaise]

11. Freeper and scientific poll

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha :rofl: :rofl:

[pinboy3niner]

14. OOPS! Typo on MoE. Should read, "+/- 385 points"

If you want to be "scientific," and all.

[Ian David]

15. FIVE PRESIDENTS WITH ONE IMMIGRANT PARENT

FIVE PRESIDENTS WITH ONE IMMIGRANT PARENT

FIVE PRESIDENTS WITH ONE IMMIGRANT PARENT - I called this morning to give Thom information to counter "Cathy" the birther about her false claims regarding Presidents having to have two natural born citizens as parents for them to be legal. It's hard to tell where to post this information on these blogs, so I'll start here and hope Thom sees it.

"Only one president was the son of two immigrant parents: Andrew Jackson. Five presidents ( Jefferson, James Buchanan, Chester Arthur, Woodrow Wilson, Herbert Hoover) had just one immigrant parent each."

http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/immigration/2008/08/immigration-fac.html

http://www.wikinfo.org/index.php/President_of_the_United_States_of_America

More:
http://www.thomhartmann.com/forum/2010/09/five-presidents-one-immigrant-parent




Also:

The Seventh U.S. President with a Foreign-Born Parent

With Barack Obama's election, immigrant parents from all over the world can now honestly tell their American-born children that they, too, can dream of one day becoming president. It's a cultural as much as as a racial barrier that's fallen: As the son of a Kenyan man, Barack Obama will be the first U.S. president with a parent born outside the British Isles or Canada.

Only six other U.S. presidents had a foreign-born parent. Mr. Obama will be the first in nearly ninety years, since President Herbert Hoover was inaugurated in 1929.

Andrew Jackson (1829-1837) is the only president born of two immigrants, both Irish. Presidents with one immigrant parent are Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809), whose mother was born in England, James Buchanan (1857-1861) and Chester Arthur (1881-1885), both of whom had Irish fathers, and Woodrow Wilson (1913-1921) and Herbert Hoover (1929-1933), whose mothers were born respectively in England and Canada.

More:
http://community.myvoa.com/_The-Seventh-US-President-with-a-Foreign-Born-Parent/blog/137360/45137.html

[rpannier]

16. I see. Another one of you people selling your liberal history view.

You know: Reality based on facts

I predict in a few weeks they'll be insisting that we cleanse the history books of their presidencies as they were illegitimate anyway

[grantcart]

18. This is a typo

Its not Wenzel but Wetzel, as in Wetzelbill, our own DU candidate for President.

He is still whining about not winning and having worn it thin here has gone to Freeper world to get support.

Before you know it he will be channeling Randle McMurphy from Cuckoos Nest while being detained at 'the home'.

[brooklynite]

22. Mittens is reportedly considering Rubio for VP -- what will the Birthers do then?