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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 05:28 PM Original message |
Thanks DU! (MannyGoldstein's radio interview on Social Security cuts) |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
1. Congratulations! |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 05:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Thanks! I wish I could do more! |
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senseandsensibility (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
3. Hasn't Thom asked you to be on his show? |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. I've not had the honor! |
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senseandsensibility (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 10:32 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. You should. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
4. But aren't things actually worse than expected because the early retirements |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 05:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Only short-term blip |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 07:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. You really think that is short term? |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 07:49 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. The total lifetime cost of these folks will be the same |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 08:30 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. The surpluses are from income on the bonds that the general treasury owes to the SS fund. |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 08:58 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Backed by the full faith and credit of the US government |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:03 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Yeah but you can't really say that there is a surplus when its not from payroll taxes. |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:08 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Does the IRS not count interest on my bank account as income? |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 04:42 AM Response to Reply #23 |
32. Manny, you are just being 'difficult'. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 11:37 AM Response to Reply #23 |
45. If your regular savings account borrowed from your Christmas account |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 05:30 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. Problem is the tax cuts for the rich and the failure to collect |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
52. The surplus is from payroll taxes. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #11 |
51. And the reason we don't have it is that corporations and wealthy |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 05:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
50. Cutting Social Security benefits will make the economy worse. |
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panader0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
6. K&R |
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pa28 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
8. K&R |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
12. KNR! Congrats, Manny! |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
13. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
14. K & R |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
15. Yay! Manny! |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 09:48 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Even with Social Security, 10% of Seniors live in poverty |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 05:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
54. TPTB = Obama. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 04:44 AM Response to Reply #15 |
33. Apparently there is 'room' |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 09:41 PM Response to Original message |
17. Really good stuff, Manny! |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
18. Kudos! and K&R |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
22. A voice with the face! Way ta go, Manny!!! |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
24. We loves ya Manny. |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
25. Cool! |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 02:14 AM Response to Original message |
26. K&R Congratulations and thanks. n/t |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 02:27 AM Response to Original message |
27. K&R n/t |
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somone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 02:36 AM Response to Original message |
28. Thanks, Manny! |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 03:17 AM Response to Original message |
29. Only one disagreement, SS is not retirement, it is a safety net |
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freedom fighter jh (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 07:06 AM Response to Reply #29 |
37. That's an awful lot of money to pay for a safety net. |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 07:36 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Tell that to Braniff Continental, United, TWA, General Motors. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 05:41 PM Response to Reply #29 |
55. For many Americans it is all they can squeeze out from their |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 03:28 AM Response to Original message |
30. As has been pointed out to you, they are forecasting the same productivity growth in the future as |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 04:49 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. You would cheer for an end of social security. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 08:11 PM Response to Reply #34 |
61. Do you get pleasure by consistently making verifiably false statements? n/t |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 07:43 AM Response to Reply #30 |
42. The publicized estimate also assumes that productivity will plunge |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 05:50 PM Response to Reply #42 |
57. Manny, here is the error in you reckoning. You forgot |
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julian09 (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 06:09 PM Response to Reply #42 |
58. How many soc recipients never worked |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 07:29 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. And how many paid in but died before they could collect? |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 08:10 PM Response to Reply #42 |
60. Even if we assume you are correct, you are only talking about delaying the insolvency. 2.1 does not |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 09:36 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Have you looked at the Trustee's "low-cost" projections? |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 11:10 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. I can't say for certain that it is wrong (or that the high cost alternative is wrong). |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 11:57 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Then we're effectively in agreement |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 05:46 PM Response to Reply #30 |
56. Manny Goldstein says the dire predictions are based on |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 08:24 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. You are missing the two key components of that growth. Growth depends on BOTH productivity of the |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 12:19 AM Response to Reply #62 |
67. If there were a demand for labor, far more Americans would wait until |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 12:48 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. When I say demographics, I mean things like fertility rates, mortality rates, immigration, life |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 01:15 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Your factors are precisely what I am talking about. |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 03:41 AM Response to Original message |
31. Thanks for doing this, Manny |
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PADemD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 06:39 AM Response to Original message |
35. Congratulations and thank you! |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 06:47 AM Response to Original message |
36. Very good!!! |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 07:12 AM Response to Original message |
38. congrats! |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 07:14 AM Response to Original message |
39. Thank you, Manny! nt |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 07:41 AM Response to Original message |
41. K&R |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
43. k&r |
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tpsbmam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
44. Wow, excellent, Manny! |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
46. Exactly, spectacularly right. Excellent interview. n/t |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
47. So contrary to the claims of some, |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
48. congrats. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
49. congrats!!! |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
63. I think the assumptions the money party is making are based off of the intent |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 01:28 AM Response to Original message |
70. Cool...Good website -- Next stop Rachael Maddow, et. al. |
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