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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 08:42 AM
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well educated?


Bachmann, 55, rates the strongest with very conservative caucusgoers, along with those who are well-educated and ages 45 to 64.

http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2011/06/26/iowa-poll-results-a-breakdown/
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 08:45 AM
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1. Best explanation.... the respondents lie when asked about their education. nt
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 08:47 AM
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2. My only guess to explain that claim is that she has an advanced degree
(J.D.) and that is interpreted as fulfilling the education criteria to that demographic.

And by that logic, I too am qualified to run for president. In real terms, both Bachmann and I would serve the public best by finding other outlets for our "talents".
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 08:50 AM
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3. She certainly has an advanced degree
in stupid. Unfortunately her ring of supporters do also. The dumbing down of voters began with the first King George and was passed down to his son George the Idiot.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 10:37 AM
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17. Her J.D. is from Oral Roberts University.
Were they accredited when she got her degree?

Do you know if she took the bar?
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 08:50 AM
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4. She has a law degree, but zero intellectual curiosity, and plenty of Bible-bangism
Basically, she's an evil bitch, and a dangerous fascist.

However, here's what I found on wiki about the little shithead:


<<Bachmann grew up in a Democratic family, but she says she became a Republican during her senior year at Winona State. She told the Minneapolis Star Tribune that she was reading Gore Vidal's 1973 novel, Burr: "He was kind of mocking the Founding Fathers and I just thought, I just remember reading the book, putting it in my lap, looking out the window and thinking, 'You know what? I don't think I am a Democrat. I must be a Republican.'"<10><25>

While she was still a Democrat, Bachmann and her then-fiancé Marcus were inspired to join the pro-life movement by Francis Schaeffer's 1976 Christian documentary film, How Should We Then Live? They frequently prayed outside of clinics and served as sidewalk counselors.<16> Bachmann was a supporter of Jimmy Carter in 1976 and she and her husband worked on his campaign.<26> During Carter's presidency, Bachmann became disappointed with his liberal approach to public policy, support for legalized abortion and economic decisions she held responsible for increased gas prices. In the 1980 presidential election, she voted for Ronald Reagan and worked for his campaign.<16><27>

Bachmann's political activism gained media notice at a pro-life protest in 1991. She and approximately 30 other pro-life citizens went to a Ramsey County Board meeting where a $3 million appropriation was to go to build a morgue for the county at St. Paul-Ramsey Medical Center (now called Regions Hospital). The Medical Center performed abortions and employed abortion rights pioneer Jane Hodgson. Bachmann attended the meeting to protest public tax dollars going to the hospital; speaking to the Star Tribune, she said that "in effect, since 1973, I have been a landlord of an abortion clinic, and I don’t like that distinction".<17><28>>>
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 08:52 AM
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5. 'i don't think i'm a democrat, i must be an idiot'
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 08:54 AM
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7. Someone needs to say, "Why, yes, you are an idiot."
That woman is a piece of shit.
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 09:07 AM
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8. And what did Bachmann do in the fall of 1979?
She enrolled in the charter class of the O.W. Coburn School of Law at Oral Roberts University. O.w. Coburn father of Senator Tom Coburn.

That "How SHould We Then Live" film was a big stinking deal on that campus. Widely viewed and tested.

And the founding dean of that law school, Charles Kothe, became a Reagan labor advisor.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 10:02 AM
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13. She's just one more anti-abortion idiot
Just another Bible-banging fundie fascist, whose main goal is to turn our country into a 3rd world nation.
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 10:37 AM
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16. Definitely a fundie
but one with much broader connections and influences than you might suspect.

And a nutcase deluxe.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 11:18 AM
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23. Yep, connections with fascists. No doubt about that. She's the amazing shithead. nt
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 10:41 AM
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19. You might be interested to know
that Oral Roberts was a DEMOCRAT.

A Democrat who prohibited his students, staff and faculty from marching on his campus to protest abortion on the 10th anniversary of Roe v. Wade.

A Democrat who encouraged the ORU chapter of Young Democrats.

Yeah, Oral Roberts was a greedy old kook. But he stayed out of politics.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 11:27 AM
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24. Maybe so. However....
Bible bangers are all anti-abortion, believe in anti-science fairy tales (or at least try to get others to believe that shit), are hypocritical, authoritarian, greedy, false, and are customarily caught committing all kind of heinous and adulterous sexual acts.


Here's an interesting partial list started in wiki, which lists some of the scandals of Christian evangelists:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_evangelist_scandals


List of Christian evangelists involved in scandals

1.1 Aimee Semple McPherson, 1920s–40s
1.2 Lonnie Frisbee, 1970s–1980s
1.3 Marjoe Gortner, early 1970s
1.4 Billy James Hargis, early 1970s
1.5 Jim & Tammy Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart, 1986 and 1991
1.6 Peter Popoff, 1987
1.7 Morris Cerullo, 1990s
1.8 Mike Warnke, 1991
1.9 Robert Tilton, 1991
1.10 W. V. Grant, 1996 and 2003
1.11 Bob Moorehead, 1998
1.12 Roy Clements, 1999
1.13 John Paulk, 2000
1.14 Paul Crouch, 2004
1.15 Douglas Goodman, 2004
1.16 Kent Hovind, 2006
1.17 Ted Haggard, 2006
1.18 Paul Barnes, 2006
1.19 Lonnie Latham, 2006
1.20 Gilbert Deya, 2006
1.21 Richard Roberts, 2007
1.22 Earl Paulk, 2007
1.23 Coy Privette, 2007
1.24 Thomas Wesley Weeks, III, 2007
1.25 Michael Reid, 2008
1.26 Joe Barron, 2008
1.27 Todd Bentley, 2008
1.28 George Alan Rekers, 2010
1.29 Eddie L. Long, 2010
1.30 Marcus Lamb, 2010
1.31 Vaughn Reeves, 2010
1.32 Stephen Green, 2011
1.33 Albert Odulele, 2011

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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 12:24 PM
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25. All?
Just like all blacks are hood rats and all hispanics are living in the US illegally?

No group of people is uniform, homogenous - or perfect. Thinking so is the stuff of sterotypes and bigotry.

I find nothing admirable in hating. Not in hating the haters - or their victims. Many of the fundie sheeple have been manipulated and abused by their leaders and their churches. Hell, they even write books about it.

People are people and human nature dictates that many are hypocritical, authoritarian, greedy, and false - and a good number engage in heinous and adulterous sexual acts. That stuff is not limited to Christians.

But, hey, you can hate. Your choice.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 04:36 PM
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27. No, you're right. Not 100% are. Only 99.99%. Feel better? nt
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 08:53 AM
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6. Or, 'Well, educated?'
:sarcasm:
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 09:10 AM
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9. They mis-heard because their ears were full of shit
because they've had their head up their asses too long.
Would be my guess as to the reason for this
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 09:21 AM
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10. Credentialled but miseducated by Oral Roberts University Law School.
Not all law schools are equal.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 09:32 AM
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11. "Well-educated, 45-65" and, let's face it: "white", generally means "rich" as well.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 04:42 PM
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28. and that profile is consistent with the hidden supporters of the Tea party movement.
The people who show up at rallies are mostly cranky seniors and middle aged, blue collar whites but the larger demographic in any survey of Tea Party supporters is the well-heeled, older white suburbanites who don't want to pay anything to the government.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 09:44 AM
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12. Encourage your conservative friends to support her.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 10:13 AM
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14. In Iowa, I think "well-educated" means 4H & FFA.
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SoutherDem Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 10:18 AM
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15. Well Educated.?!
Even racist, fascist, homophobic, bible-thumping, right-wingers can be "well educated". Still doesn't mean they have the intelligence to come in out of the rain. ;)
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 10:39 AM
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18. :-)
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 10:48 AM
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20. It is possible to be both highly educated and willfully ignorant
I suppose the "well" part is a matter of opinion.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 11:00 AM
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21. note that this article offers no proof or poll or statistics to support this insane claim
Edited on Sun Jun-26-11 11:06 AM by spanone
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 11:16 AM
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22. I don't think the claim is insane -- it's just confusingly written and poorly cited
The reporter is talking about Iowa republican caucus goers only. It is possible that within that group, those with advanced degrees are more likely to favor Bachmann. (Unless you meant that the people the claim is about are insane. Then, I'm with you. :-) )

It is probably this poll, which is linked at the bottom of the article
http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2011/06/26/iowa-poll-romney-bachmann-lead-republican-pack/
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 01:22 PM
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26. Educated or trained?
After years of college teaching, I came to the conclusion that the majority of people come out of college trained for a job but not really educated, not taught to think, not inspired to maintain intellectual curiosity.
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