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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 09:18 PM
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Jerusalem rabbis 'condemn dog to death by stoning' story was BS
The story spawned various threads here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1323478

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1320813

Turns out that the story was bogus.

“On 3rd June 2011 we published an item headlined ‘Meah Shearim: A Bet Din (religious court) instructed that a dog be stoned.’ In the article it was reported that a complaint was made to the police by the Israeli animal protection society against the Rabbinical Court for Monetary Matters in Jerusalem.The article also brought a categorical denial of this accusation from the head of the court, Rabbi Yehoshua Levin. The Rabbi said, amongst other things, ‘There is no basis for cruelty to animals, not in Halacha (Jewish religious law) and not in logic.’ According to him, workers from the municipal authority collected the dog from the court. The headline of the article did not reflect the full story and we apologize to the court and its members for the distress caused.”

http://www.periscopepost.com/2011/06/the-israeli-lawyer-dog-was-not-stoned/

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 09:44 PM
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1. No shit.
But boy were DUers eager to believe it.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 09:47 PM
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3. Not just DU-ers
It was one of the most popular stories on a variety of news sites (BBC, I believe, for one) with a plethora of comments.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 09:54 PM
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4. Eh, Poe's Law..
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Poe's_Law

Poe's Law is an axiom suggesting that it's difficult to distinguish between parodies of religious fundamentalism (or, more generally, parodies of any crackpot or extremist belief) and genuine proponents of religious fundamentalism, since they both seem equally insane. Conversely, real fundamentalism can easily be mistaken for a parody of fundamentalism. For example, some conservatives consider noted homophobe Fred Phelps to be so over-the-top that they argue he's a "deep cover liberal" trying to discredit more mainstream homophobes.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 06:01 AM
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9. Never seen that before
Thanks for sharing.
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amyrose2712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 06:38 AM
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10. Yeah that. nt
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 09:45 PM
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2. I posted this article, too. Thanks for the heads-up. n/t
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bainz Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 09:59 PM
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5. It could have been true. n/t
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 10:11 PM
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6. Why do you say that?
Is there precedent?
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 11:46 PM
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7. No, it could not. Jews do not believe in reincarnation. -nt
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 08:02 AM
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12. Untrue. Reincarnation can be possible. After purgatory, Judaism does not know what happens
to the soul. I learned this from the wife of an Orthodox rabbi.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 08:12 AM
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14. I just found this. This rabbi offers reincarnation as a fact- gilgul ha'ne'shamot
Edited on Tue Jun-21-11 08:13 AM by OmmmSweetOmmm
http://judaism.about.com/library/3_askrabbi_o/bl_simmons_reincarnation.htm



snip

There are many Jewish sources dealing with what is popularly
called "reincarnation." In Hebrew, it is called "gilgul
ha'ne'shamot," literally the recycling or transmigration of
souls.

This concept can be compared to a flame of one candle lighting
another candle. While the essence of the second flame comes from
the first one, the second flame is an independent entity.

Still, the new flame contains imperfections inherited from the
initial flame, and it is these imperfections that are to be
corrected.

continued


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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 12:03 AM
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8. kick n/t
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 07:49 AM
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11. Good!
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 08:04 AM
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13. lots of stories here and on the news are bogus.
Although there are patterns to it.

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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 08:13 AM
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15. thank you for posting this. I cannot for the life of me understand how anyone here
could entertain such a fable as true, unless they had VERY limited experience with Jewish friends, colleagues, coworkers, neighbors...
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 08:17 AM
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16. why hasn't ynet news apologized or retracted the story?
seems like they should.

:shrug:
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 09:50 AM
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17. Perhaps for the same reason they ran the story in the first place?
Their online English news site is something less than a model of good journalism.

In fact, a few years ago, they were going to abandon the project entirely:

Logging off: Ynet to close its English site

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/logging-off-ynet-to-close-its-english-site-1.230955
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 09:16 PM
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22. They have finally taken the story down from their web site
Not sure if they have issued any kind of apology.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 10:02 AM
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18. Ahh,,but the damage has been done.
You can't unblow the whistle.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 10:52 AM
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19. ^ ^ ^ THIS.
And Al Gore invented the Internet, and the Clintons killed Vince Foster, and babies in incubators, and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and the Black Panther coloring book, etc etc etc ad infinitum.

People are intrinsically dishonest fucks. Urgh.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 11:11 AM
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21. Interesting to observe how popular that fake story was
It was repeated and posted on a variety of different sites - often being the story with the most hits and comments on various "reputable" news sources, such as the BBC.
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 10:54 AM
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20. Crazy religious fundamentalists say they aren't that crazy
Well, I'm glad for the dog anyway.
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