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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 06:09 PM
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Is Obama secretly the greatest Republican ever?
Edited on Mon Jun-20-11 06:13 PM by kpete
Posted at 06:50 AM ET, 06/20/2011
Wonkbook: Is Obama secretly the greatest Republican ever?
By Ezra Klein

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If Republicans can make their peace with the Affordable Care Act and help figure out how to make the Affordable Care Act's exchanges work to control costs and improve quality, it'd be natural to eventually migrate Medicaid and Medicare into the system. Liberals would like that because it'd mean better care for Medicaid beneficiaries and less fragmentation in the health-care system. Conservatives would like it because it'd break the two largest single-payer health-care systems in America and turn their beneficiaries into consumers. But the implementation and success of the Affordable Care Act is a necessary precondition to any compromise of this sort. You can't transform Medicaid and Medicare until you've proven that what you're transforming them into is better. Only the Affordable Care Act has the potential to do that.

So Bachmann is perhaps right to say that the president is moving us towards a day when ObamaCare -- or, to put it more neutrally, "premium support" -- might come to Medicare. He's seeing whether it works in the private health-care market first and, if it does, there's little doubt that the political pressure to extend it to other groups will be intense. The question is why Bachmann and her party are doing so much to stand in his way? The corollary to Bachmann's accusation that the president has a realistic plan to privatize Medicare is that the Republicans, for all their sound and fury over the Ryan budget, don't.

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MORE:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/wonkbook-is-obama-secretly-the-greatest-republican-ever/2011/06/20/AGxM1ecH_blog.html
One thing's for sure. Bachman's on to something. I knew her comments had a perverse sort of logic, but it never occurred to me that she was right on the merits. Live and learn.
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2011/06/bachmans-right-about-obama-wanting-to.html
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 06:11 PM
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1. Someone said it.
I've been quietly wondering it for some time.
(Someone unrecc'd it)
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 06:12 PM
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2. No. ...nt
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 06:40 PM
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18. I agree. It's no secret.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 06:16 PM
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3. Well, he's seemingly more conservative than Bill Clinton ever was painted as.
Edited on Mon Jun-20-11 06:17 PM by onehandle
Probably not by choice, but the same could be said about President Clinton.

Let's see what happens if a Democratic Congress is re-elected along with him.

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bobburgster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 06:17 PM
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4. Not even close......
if you honestly look at the political realities of our day.
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 06:18 PM
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5. Without Question /nt
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 06:20 PM
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6. No. There were lots of better repubicans
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 06:21 PM
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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 06:21 PM
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8. No, not even close.
Lincoln was better than him as was Theodore Roosevelt.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 06:26 PM
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12. Yep. Might even include Eisenhower n/t
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hulka38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 09:43 PM
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29. I would include Ike as well.
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TriMera Donating Member (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 06:22 PM
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9. No, but he's working on it. n/t
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 06:24 PM
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10. Not quite
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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 06:26 PM
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11. a decade or so ago
the common wisdom suggested that the first woman or black president would have to be republican because they would be too scary if they were thought of as liberal
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 06:27 PM
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13. Nah, I still say Eisenhower was
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 07:06 PM
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23. Yes, high tax rates on the rich folk and expanded Social Security -
Eisenhower has my vote as one of the best presidents given those two facts, particularly as I'm watching a democrat give rich people tax breaks while trying to cut social security. I think I'd re-phrase the OP and say Mr. Obama is one of the worst democrats ever. And that's saying a lot when you consider Mr. Wilson purged all the communists he could find. As a leftist myself it is mind-boggling to watch this administration cowtow to the rich and put anti-war activists in jail. Shameful.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 06:27 PM
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14. Clinton was, he chipped around.. n/t rec
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TicketyBoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 06:30 PM
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15. Lincoln,
without a doubt.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 06:33 PM
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16. Remarkable given the most vapidly mainstream, "centrist" source (Ezra Klein of WP).

KR
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 06:39 PM
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17. Almost there.
knr
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 06:44 PM
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19. No cause it's no secret nt
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 06:53 PM
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20. Again with this garbage?
:eyes:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 07:01 PM
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 07:00 PM
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21. Has anybody read the damn article?
It's only three paragraphs long and its point has absolutely nothing to do with that stupid fucking Obama = Bush meme that permeates this place.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 07:40 PM
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26. Yeah!!! I was too exasperated with posters earlier to even take the time
to post the same thing. "Did people actually read and understand the article (opinion)? Not just read the subject line...
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 07:07 PM
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24. Not secretly and by no means the greatest.
The truth of the matter is, the 2 words, greatest and republican can never be used in the same sentence unless you put asshole at the end.:shrug:
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 07:08 PM
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25. +
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TNLib Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 07:50 PM
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27. Nah Clinton Holds that title still
;-)
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 07:54 PM
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28. pfffffffffttttttttt....
What a joke of a post.

Sid
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