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katanalori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 12:49 AM
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Unbelievable! Court Rules US Taxpayers,Not BP /Transocean, Are Liable For Gulf Oil Spill Clean U
"Unbelievable! Court Rules US Taxpayers, Not BP Or Transocean, Are Liable For Gulf Oil Spill Clean Up Costs"

"US District court has dismissed over 100,000 lawsuits brought against BP And Transocean to pay for oil spill clean up costs and environmental damages caused to the Gulf of Mexico from the BP Gulf Oil Spill. The court ruled that injury stopped the moment the well was sealed and the Federal Government, aka The US Taxpayer, is now liable for clean up costs along with any damages caused by deficiencies of the cleanup of the Gulf Of Mexico.
The US District Courts have ruled that since oil is no longer flowing from the Macando Well BP and Transocean are not liable for cleanup costs and damages from the BP Gulf Oil Spill since the “well has already been sealed and the injury has already been committed”.

In the ruling the court goes on note that Federal Government is in charge of the oil spill clean up efforts. Thus any damages related to the cleanup are now the burden of the Federal Government, meaning the US Taxpayer."

MORE:
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/06/18/unbelievable-courts-rule-taxpayers-bp-transocean-liable-gulf-oil-spill-clean-costs-29071/
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 12:50 AM
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1. WTF?!
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peace4ever Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 12:54 AM
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2. Considering our recent history of privatizing the profits and socializing the loses
it shouldn't be that surprising. but hopefully this helps wake more people.

the more the closer we get to the tipping point.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 12:56 AM
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4. More evidence that only people in the streets, and staying there, will change anything.
Or perhaps, not in the streets -- if a General Strike takes hold, and we can shut down the economic engines used by the elites to trap us.

Obviously "voting" for someone from the "two" parties is increasingly -- and obviously -- futile.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 01:21 AM
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14. i'm starting to wonder if they know something that we don't - otherwise,

their absolutely brazen, in-you-face displays of class warfare (and unprecedented assaults on workers' rights) would seem to be foolishly self-destructive.

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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 01:35 AM
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15. the elites knowing something about resistance being futile?
..due to something coming down the pike?

:shrug:
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 12:55 AM
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3. I do not think this will go well with the American people
Just one more reason to have as many regulations on corporations as possible

:wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 05:19 AM
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23. you are assuming people are paying attention.
gulf disaster what? when did that happen? isn't there a new episode of america's got talent on tonight?
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 01:00 AM
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5. that's like saying we're not going to pursue a conviction because the murder had already happened.
:wtf: X 10.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 02:51 AM
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17. There's an easy solution. Stop giving drilling contracts to BP.
I'm a mean girl.
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theaocp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 08:31 AM
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29. What do you family members want? The murderer's responsibility
ended when the knife stopped penetrating the victim's body! Sheesh! :wtf: x Pantera
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 01:02 AM
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6. Damn.
The “well has already been sealed and the injury has already been committed”.

So if I run someone over with my car and then send the car to the scrapheap, I guess I'm not liable for the injury caused to the person I squashed, since the instrument that caused the damage no longer exists and the injury 'has already been committed'.

Need to keep that in mind, I guess.

good grief.
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 01:05 AM
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7. Are we surprised?
We shouldn't be it's par for the course but I for one......

AM GODDAMN SICK OF IT :mad:
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 01:08 AM
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8. is this for real?

i'm not *terribly* surprised if it is, but is there any way to confirm?



(if so.... wow, they don't fuck around, do they. they deliver. - and not to us, clearly.)



:nuke:
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 01:09 AM
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9. ....
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 01:13 AM
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10. The Actual report, Ma'am, Reads a Little Differently
Edited on Sun Jun-19-11 01:14 AM by The Magistrate
http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/06/17/37457.htm

"The D1 defendants do not unilaterally direct the cleanup activities in the Gulf; such activities have been under the control of the National Incident Commander, Federal on-Scene Coordinator, Unified Area Command, and the Coast Guard in cooperation with other federal agencies. Thus, plaintiffs cannot show that an order from this court would actually resolve any potential deficiency in the ongoing cleanup," Barbier wrote.

"In order to prevail on their claims for injunctive relief, plaintiffs must demonstrate an ongoing violation of various statutes on which plaintiffs' claims for relief is based. Because the Macondo well is dead and is no longer discharging oil, plaintiffs' only claims are confined to seeking environmental citizen suit injunctive relief of a prospective nature to stop noncompliance in the form of a continued release of oil. Thus, the citizen suit claims brought by the plaintiffs are moot, because no future-orientated injunction can provide any meaningful relief for plaintiffs in terms of stopping discharges that already concluded in mid-July 2010."



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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 03:23 AM
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20. Oh they were requesting injunctive relief. This was not a decision about
damages. That is understandable.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 10:05 PM
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34. Thank You, Sir, for Bringing this Detail to Our Attention.
We don't all take the time to read the original source material or fact check.

Those who do make this a better place.

:thumbsup:
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katanalori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 01:14 AM
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11. This must be repealed -
Edited on Sun Jun-19-11 01:20 AM by katanalori
I wonder if the judge is a GW Bush appointee. Do corporations control both our Legislatures AND the Judiciary?
WTF?

edited to add this (from link at OP):

" I guess the Judge believed that all of the oil magically disappeared from the Gulf the moment the well was sealed, just like the Federal Government told us it did. Never mind that fact that scientists reported the Feds confiscated the data of the underwater plumes and told the scientists to shut up about their research. Never mind the feds tried covering up the first plume that was discovered. You do remember that massive 22 mile long plume larger than the size of Manhattan don’t you?"
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 01:18 AM
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12. We the people, need better lawyers.
Not faulting the folks already in this.
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Dept of Beer Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 01:18 AM
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13. Privatize cost, socialize debt.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 02:31 AM
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16. Sadly, it's not unbelievable.
This crap is becoming standard procedure in America.

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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 03:14 AM
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18. I've heard of this before,
the arsonist wasn't liable for burning down building once the match went out.

Makes total sense.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 03:20 AM
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19. Wow! They should sue the manufacturer of the defective whatever
it was that caused the spill.

I can't believe that this could stand. It's like saying that the driver that causes an automobile accident is not liable for the death of the passenger in the car that was hit because the passenger did not die until several weeks after the accident. It's pretty absurd unless there is some specific statue or law that permits this outcome.
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dorksied Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 03:31 AM
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21. The War continues, while we all stand quietly and pray it gets better.
The rich, the wealthy, the powerful, they do not fear us. They do not fear the people of the USA. We are sheep, fed lies and deceit from the Main Stream Media, we are divided, right wing and left wing, by ideological walls and fear.

A great man once said that a house divided cannot stand.

We will be pushed, slowly, surely, to a 3rd world status. We will, at some point, have food riots, cholera outbreaks, and disease running rampant, cancers from pollutants, all brought about by defunding, deregulating, and disenfranchisement of the people.

Our collapse, as a country, is inevitable, so long as Republicans have their way. They are TRYING to destroy America, because it is what their GODS Ayn Rand and Roger Ailes want.

This is just the beginning of the twilight of our country.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 04:20 AM
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22. Not unbelievable at all. It's the American way.
Cut taxes for rich corporations so we can be taxed to pay their bills.

Welcome to the 21st century.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 05:36 AM
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24. You guys are getting it ..doing business in America
Corruption Corruption Corruption

Americans get screwed
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divvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 06:54 AM
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25. Ah yes ..... Privatize profits and socialize the liability ......
Why don't the teabaggin republicans cry socialism over this type of thing?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 06:56 AM
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26. The "little people" get screwed again. Why am I not surprised?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 07:02 AM
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 08:20 AM
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28. Are We Sure That The Capped Well Isn't Still Leaking?......
Has anyone gone down to it recently and filmed the cap to determine whether or not it is still leaking or the cap is holding? How are we sure that this well isn't still spewing oil into the Gulf? Do we just trust BP?
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forbero Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 03:52 PM
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30. Misleading post
Although I'd like to see BP do more to correct the damages they caused, this case has nothing to do with the clean up $. "The claims Barbier dismissed weren't seeking monetary damages. Rather, plaintiffs' attorneys asked for a court order to prevent companies from operating in a manner that could result in future violations of environmental laws" . "BP and the agencies comprising the Unified Area Command have been and are cleaning up the Gulf of Mexico. An injury is not redressable by a citizen suit when the injury is already being addressed".
Make sure you read and quote the original source (http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/06/17/37457.htm), NOT someone's blog.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 04:22 PM
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31. Well someone is paid off.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 04:25 PM
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32. No one paying attention should be surprised by this.
Corporations rule the United States of America. The people exist to serve the corporations.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 08:51 PM
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33. That reminds me of the case of the murderer whose defense was that
he was not liable for the murder because it had already been committed by the time of the trial.

Any justice who was part of this decision should be impeached.
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ImNotTed Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 10:23 PM
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35. I'm shocked by this!
:sarcasm:
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