More Santorum hypocrisy- "OUR ABORTION WAS DIFFERENT: WHEN THE ANTI-CHOICE CHOOSE"

[friendly_iconoclast]

http://early-onset-of-night.tumblr.com/post/6502308112/our-abortion-was-different-when-the-anti-choice

....The procedure, whereby labor is induced to remove the fetus before it has any chance of surviving on its own, is considered by Mr. Santorum to be a ‘partial-birth abortion’, and he is correct. He also personally authorized one to save his wife, whom he loves.

Mr. Santorum is opposed to any and all forms of abortion. Incest? Too bad. Rape? Too bad. Twelve years old? Too bad. Wife, mother, daughter, lover, friend dying? Too bad.

This hypocrite needs to be kept out of all elective offices for the rest of his life....

Details at the link. It's always "okay for me, but not for thee" with these types, innit?

[ejpoeta]

1. that is the truth. they can always afford to take their loved one somewhere where they

can make sure things are taken care of. the rest of us can suffer.

[barbtries]

2. shared on facebook.

hypocrisy thy name is republican

[StarburstClock]

GOPathological liars

They lie for sport, lie for personal gain, lie for fun, lie for office.

[lumpy]

3. Bump

v

[tishaLA]

4. I never put this together before

Thanks for posting this!

He wants to criminalize abortion, but his own wife had one to save her life.

he's even more of a yahoo thank I thought.

[pnwmom]

5. Did this really happen? The only reason I ask is

that last quote at the end was obviously satire. Is all the rest true?

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

6. Before I send this to my anti-choice buds, I need to be 100% sure that it is authentic,

especially the last line of the article.

[Brother Buzz]

7. Poetry, satire, absurdity

Poetry, satire, absurdity, and death, the tumblelog of writer, twisted freak, and fantastic dancer Michael Kindt. He likes kitties and beer, and is a skillful and dedicated manscaper. He almost never speaks of himself in the third person, and you can get a better look at me

[friendly_iconoclast]

8. Oh, it's very true. Here are some links:

http://www.newyorker.com/archive/1998/01/05/1998_01_05_030_TNY_LIBRY_000014643

http://www.amazon.com/Letters-Gabriel-Michael-Santorum-National/dp/B00098VRX2

http://www.now.org/issues/abortion/alerts/11-13-97.html

Family Circle magazine featured an anti-abortion article in the "Full Circle" section of their October 1997 issue. The article, written by Karen Santorum, decried the use of late-term abortion under any circumstances. And it told the story of her own tragic pregnancy and the decision she and her family made – an option she and her husband would deny to other women .

[brendan120678]

10. So in other words, according to...

the New Yorker article, it isn't true at all.

If one were to read only that article, it sounds like Mrs. Santorum underwent a medical procedure to try to save the fetus, she ended up getting an infection, and that caused premature labor.

I don't see anything in that article where it says the Santorums purposely induced labor to get rid of the fetus.

From that article:
The Santorums went to Philadelphia to undergo a procedure where a plastic shunt was inserted into the baby's bladder and used to channel the fetal urine into the womb. Initially the outcome looked good, but Karen soon suffered an infection from the operation, and she went into premature labor. The Santorums decided against aborting their baby. For Rick and Karen Santorum, the birth of their premature son, Gabriel Michael, on October 11, 1996, confirmed their beliefs about partial-birth abortion; the idea that the state might condone violence against this tiny but undeniably human creature seemed impossibly barbaric. Their baby died 2 hours after birth.

Read more http://www.newyorker.com/archive/1998/01/05/1998_01_05_030_TNY_LIBRY_000014643#ixzz1PNfjQK2u

Edited to add: I realize the "Early Onset" blog does detail the induced labor, I'm just saying that not all of the articles posted share this information.

[fasttense]

17. Induced or brought on by an infection after surgery, what is the difference?

If abortion is always wrong then she should have taken drugs to stop the early labor. She knew she was taking a risk with the surgery and that it might induce labor. She should have had standing order not to allow her to go into early labor. She should have told her husband to stop early labor at all cost.

But, when faced with the decision between her life or her fetus's life, she chose her own life. So would any rational human being. But she and her husband want to make sure that women in the same situation die.

[JDPriestly]

9. Abortion is an agonizing decision. Miscarriages are very common,

but can also be a huge disappointment. Men should keep their mouths shut about these very personal women's issues.

[truebrit71]

11. What you said....as a man , let me make it perfectly clear..what a woman does with her own body...

..is her own choice...white, anglo-saxon, male, religious fuck-wits need to stay the fuck out of the examining room...

(Yes I understand there are a large number of self-loathing female religious fuckwits that wish to live their lives as second-class citizens, because they fail to see that this is an issue about controlling women, and fuck all to do with cute little babies...)

[robertpaulsen]

12. Interesting exchange on Spreading Santorum

Tuesday, June 14, 2011
Not the Best Way to Clean up Santorum
(Posted by Jocelyn)

I'm sure many of you have read this post about Rick Santorum and his wife, Karen's, abortion. It reads like so:

Karen was going to die if her pregnancy was not ended, if the fetus was not removed from her body. So, at 20 weeks, one month before what doctors consider ‘viability’, labor was artificially induced and the infected fetus was delivered. It died shortly thereafter.

This is, indeed, a huge act of hypocrisy on the part of the Santorums. To claim that having an abortion for medical reasons is a "phony exception" while knowing full well that your wife did that very thing fifteen years ago is nothing short of disgusting. Or, you know, it would be if it had actually happened.

There is, however, no evidence (that I can find) to suggest that the labor was induced, a requirement in making this tragedy an abortion rather than a miscarriage. Karen Santorum HAS said that she would have considered inducing labor if there were no way she could have survived otherwise, but she didn't actually have to make that decision.

http://blog.spreadingsantorum.com/2011/06/not-best-way-to-clean-up-santorum.html


That elicited this comment and response:

Michael Kindt said...

I am the author of the article in question and declare for you and everyone to see that it is a work of satire. The facts of whether or not this was an abortion are NOT settled. You can point me to a website that says it wasn't an abortion and I can point you to one that says it was. Karen's quote in the article is factual however (Steve Goldstein, Philadelphia Inquirer, May 4, 1997) and clearly shows that she understood what was happening as an abortion. Again, the facts of whether or not this was an abortion are not established. The author of this post believes it wasn't an abortion, but many, many people do. Personally, I don't know what to think and simply set about creating a viscious piece of satirical comedy (that, it turns out, is very effective). Responses that I have received to the article are pretty evenly divided, with about half picking up on its satire and half not. If you don't get it, I can't (and won't) help you. I do not write to the lowest common denominator. Sincerely, Michael Kindt.
June 15, 2011 2:56 AM
Jocelyn said...

Michael-

I've heard you defend this piece as a work of 'satire' a few times now, and every time I am more convinced that you don't know what satire is and is not. It is NOT an excuse to present theories as facts.

The paragraph at the end of your piece with the false quote is the only part of it that actually resembles 'satire' or 'comedy.' The rest is just malicious lies. It's also not particularly funny.

Sincerely, Jocelyn
June 15, 2011 5:10 AM

[friendly_iconoclast]

13. Can we get the actual quote from Karen Santorum? n/t

[friendly_iconoclast]

15. ..that is, from the Philly Enquirer? n/t

[robertpaulsen]

21. I believe this is the link.

Courtesy of a google search:

http://articles.philly.com/1997-05-04/news/25562508_1_fetal-abnormality-controversial-late-term-abortion-procedure-intact-dilation-and-extraction

[backscatter712]

14. It's different because he got to take his fetus home in a jar!

That makes it OK... :sarcasm:

[donheld]

16. Of course: it's ok if your republican

[Froward69]

18. Living up to his name.

Lately I have been using it in sentences... like "Wipe off the santorum and lets get going."

[yodermon]

19. Wait. Is Santorum's official position *really* that the Life of the Mother is not a sufficient

reason to have an abortion?
Has he *really* stated that women MUST DIE before having an abortion?
I find that hard to believe. Most wingnuts I know at least have a life-of-the-mother exception.

[mlevans]

26. Not according to the article on philly.com referenced above.

According to that article, his position is that cases of rape, incest, or to save the mother's life are sufficient excuse to allow abortions.

[indepat]

20. Hypocrisy to seemingly unattainable heights, but pubs regularly pull this feat off

with ease. :patriot:

[avaistheone1]

22. k&r

[nonperson]

23. "okay for me, but not for thee"

The motto of the authoritarian control freak hypocrite.

[patrice]

24. IOKYAR. nt

[Beavker]

25. The list of the hypocristy with the GOP is long

You could to a mini-series special about all of them. Or...you could have a couple comedy shows that easily bring these things to light in a humorous, yet truthful way. Oh wait...there are!

[Vinca]

27. That's an astonishing story. Wonder if his fundie supporters are aware of it.

Everything changes when it affects you personally. I despise Santorum even more now.

[the_chinuk]

28. Everything's Okay when they do it.

Abortions, activist judges, lying to the public.

Why does anyone think I'm being unfair in not respecting the Republicans?