Is it me, or are progressives disproportionately "removed" from their posts...

[Taverner]

Whether its the media-orchestrated political assassinations of Elliot Spitzer and Anthony Weiner, the cold blooded murder of JFK, MLK, RFK, and Lennon, the 'airplane malfunction' of Paul Wellstone, or the redistricting of Kucinich, Feingold and, once again, Weiner - Progressives are silenced

Conservatives don't have this problem. Palin and Bachmann will never have airplane troubles, and they use them a lot more than Wellstone did.

I don't see any Conservatives getting redistricted out.

I don't see any Teabaggers losing their spots.

Maybe I'm just crazy. Maybe I'm being too paranoid...

But you have to admit - it's lopsided

[Mimosa]

1. Agree.

I've noticed too.

[Skittles]

2. repukes would have to wear diapers with prostitutes to be tossed

oh wait....:o

[Sonoman]

3. "Lopsided", indeed.

Forgive me, for I am a Marketer and a student of probability.

None of this (and we could go on and on) makes any probable sense. This shit is upside-down.

Sonoman

PS Hey, Taverner, sorry about pissing you off on my tax-dodge thing. I just love to fuck with them. I employ 50+ people. I do my part.
S

[JDPriestly]

10. If you go back to 1963 with the JFK assassination

and move forward death after death, Democrats are out far more often than Republicans. I've lived through all the years. It cannot simply be the law of averages. In recent years, it actually has not been so bad, but in the 1960s, the violent removal of Democrats from office was horrible.

And then recently, there was Giffords' shooting. Just typical. I cannot think of any similar violence against right-wing politicians in recent years.

The rules that govern statistics and chance do not consider right-wing violence.

[Sonoman]

14. Damn! A voice of reason.

I have watched your posts for quite some time.

I would like to buy you a drink (or something).

Sonoman

[hifiguy]

25. Indeed

The odds against these things all happening purely randomly have to be in the trillions to one.

Once is an accident
Twice is coincidence
Three times is an enemy action

- from Ian Fleming's "Goldfinger"

[Electric Monk]

4. Again? While you may have a point, I don't see this ending well.

edit: Well, you did remove the part the mod referred to while locking the earlier one. Maybe this time around is ok :shrug:

[Taverner]

24. I think its a valid question, and the mods were right in locking the last one

I have to do everything within my power to not become them - and it's not easy

[Electric Monk]

27. Ok, I agree with you there.

I wish I had a better strategy on what to do next.

[SoCalDem]

5. Aggressive/verbal people with flamboyant indisgressions

are magnets for snoops who seek to unseat them.

If their lives were milquetoast-normal, they would not be so easily "taken down"..

If your enemy has a gun pointed at you and you hand him the ammo, can you be surprised when he shoots you?

[JDPriestly]

12. And Vitter? And Ensign? Their friends covered up for them.

This is especially true with Ensign who had a whole clique of fellow members of Congress assisting him in covering up his sexual escapade. And he served long after his very serious problem made the news.

Compared to Ensign's conduct, Weiner's behavior was nothing.

I say let Weiner serve in peace.

Let's don't be so easily intimidated by the thought police. I'm ashamed of Pelosi and the rest who have allowed Breitbart to set their agenda.l

[Taverner]

22. Was JFK asking for it? Was RFK asking for it? Was MLK asking for it?

Was Russ Feingold asking to be redistricted?

Was Paul Wellstone asking for his plane to crash?

[Spider Jerusalem]

6. Weiner is a creepy, misogynistic narcissist. He did this to himself.

No-one forced him to engage in this behaviour--sending racy photos to people online is one thing, and I am all for people's right to do what they want in their private lives, but sending relative strangers unsolicited cock pics is deeply questionable behaviour at best, especially from a public figure; what would we be saying if he'd exposed himself to a constituent in his office? Because that's what the unsolicited pictures are, more or less; same thing, different venue.

And Spitzer was likewise an idiot tripping over his own dick...ironic considering his crusading against prostitution rings as NY Attorney General, and his fall from grace in light of his hypocrisy? Deserved.

(And on the other side of the coin, George Lincoln Rockwell? American Nazi Party leader; murdered. George Wallace? Shot and left paralysed. Gerald Ford? Two thwarted assassination attempts. Reagan? A nearly successful assassination attempt. The left isn't and hasn't been the only target of political violence; yes, you're paranoid.

[JDPriestly]

13. The incidents you describe are not comparable.

George Wallace and Rockwell were extremists. They were not attacked by crazies on the left.

In 1974, George Wallace ran as a Democrat.

On 13 January 1972, Wallace declared himself a candidate, entering the field with George McGovern, 1968 nominee Hubert Humphrey, and nine other Democratic opponents. In Florida's primary, Wallace carried every county to win 42 percent of the vote. When running, Wallace claimed he was no longer for segregation, and that he had always been a moderate.<11> Though no longer in favor of segregation, Wallace was opposed to desegregation busing during his campaign, a position Nixon would adopt early on as President.<39>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Wallace#Democratic_presidential_primaries_of_1976

Arthur Bremer attacked George Wallace

On March 1, 1972, Bremer began his diary with the words, "It is my personal plan to assassinate by pistol either Richard Nixon or George Wallace. I intend to shoot one or the other while he attends a campaign rally for the Wisconsin Primary." Bremer's purpose was "to do SOMETHING BOLD AND DRAMATIC, FORCEFUL & DYNAMIC, A STATEMENT of my manhood for the world to see."<12> The following evening, Bremer attended an organizational meeting for Wallace at The Pfister Hotel in Milwaukee.

Although Bremer's main aim was to assassinate then-President Richard Nixon, on March 23, Bremer attended a Wallace dinner and rally at Milwaukee's Red Carpet Airport Inn. During the next two months, Bremer would trail Wallace, across the USA, travelling by car, plane, ferry and bus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Bremer

Clearly, Rockwell was not a Republican. So, the attacks on Rockwell and Wallace were not attacks on Republicans.

[Spider Jerusalem]

15. I didn't say "Republicans", I said "the right"

and the OP says "progressives", not "Democrats".

[Taverner]

21. But the fact still remains that they are not comparable

Wallace did not die, he survived.

I think we can all agree that wounded is not shot dead.

And Weiner, despite everyone saying he did this to himself, did not, in fact, do this to himself.

Does the name "Andrew Breitbart" mean anything to you?

[Spider Jerusalem]

26. He did it to himself.

The fact that he got caught by a right-wing scumbag doesn't mean HE isn't a scumbag as well.

[Maraya1969]

16. Weiner didn't send any cock shots except the one in his underwear.

The man exchanged photos with willing participants online. have you met the internet yet?

And you think what he did is worse than David Vitter wearing diapers and engaging in illegal sex with a prostitute? Or John Ensign keeping a woman hostage because both her and her husband worked for him and couldn't afford to lose their jobs. And then he paid them off to keep silent? What about Larry Craig picking up anonymous men in a seedy bathroom in an airport and getting arrested and pleading guilty?

Watch this video. There was another better one that I can't find. I did however check many of the people on the video and it is spot on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3aBnHGqWuY

[Spider Jerusalem]

17. Not with willing participants.

The picture that started the controversy was unsolicited, he tried to claim it was a "joke". Sorry, but a guy sending unsolicited crotch photos to women he's talking to online? Very creepy behaviour.

[BlueCaliDem]

7. Don't forget Russ Feingold losing is seat. BUT...David Dreier is about to be "redistricted" out

in SoCal. That's ONE Con biting the dust, but then again, California *did* go overwhelmingly Democratic in last election - unlike the other states. I think there was one more, but I forget which one.

It's clear we no longer have a democracy. It appears, we've already lost our government to the plutocracy. It must've happened YEARS ago. Which just didn't know it until now.

[SixString]

8. Odd coincidence

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Both posted the same minute.
And this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1298406

:shrug:

[joshcryer]

9. Heh, IBTL...

[lob1]

20. Not odd at all. The first thread was locked.

Random Thoughts post was a reply to the locked thread, and Taverner made changes and reposted the locked thread.

[Codeine]

11. This will end well. nt

[villager]

18. Oh, it's not you....

And it's no accident, either...

[REP]

19. You left out Jerry Litton and Mel Carnahan, both Missouri pols dead in small plane crashes

Then again, Ted Stevens died in a small plane crash as well. I think the problem is with the planes/pilots.

[Taverner]

23. I know - and there are also the thousands of progressive martyrs who we don't know

James Chaney, Andrew Goodman, and Michael Schwerner come to mind