If Weiner had a "R" next to his name every one of us would demand that he resign

[LynneSin]

Sure I that when a republican does it, he's also probably spouting off about 'family values'. This makes the politician in question even a bigger hypocrite.

I really don't care that Weiner 'sexted' dirty talk with a bunch of girls.

I do care that for over a week he made us believe he was innocent and we defended him. He made us look stupid especially in light that the person who exposed him is one of the biggest creeps out there who tends to spread lies about liberals and democrats (Andrew Breibart).

Politicians need to learn that with today's technology, the moment you send a dirty email, a dirty photo or anything else questionable - you open yourself to being exposed. It takes just one person to turn what you thought was private over to someone public and your imagine is tarnished forever.

Personally I think Weiner is spoiled goods and would be best to resign and give himself some space between what has happened and his career. I don't think he's dead in politics but he could turn his career around. He's young enough that he could reconsider the run for NYC Mayor perhaps in 5-10 years. I mean even Elliot Spitzer found a way to come back.

[Maru Kitteh]

1. absolutely the truth

Show me any great sizable number of posts arguing that an (r) who got caught in any scandal (sex or not) should be free to return after treatment or that their sex life should be off-limits no matter what, or that they shouldn't have to abide by house ethics rules...... and I'll rescind.

[RBInMaine]

2. Actually, no we wouldn't. We would be saying he and his constituents should decide.

[LynneSin]

16. Bullshit

Maybe you would and I respect you for saying that.

But if it wasn't for the fact I'm heading for bed soon, I could probably pull out dozens of threads from every Republican scandal where we called for that person to resign.

[NYC Liberal]

25. Find one where the Republican in question was not committing a crime

or doing something that interfered with his job.

[LynneSin]

33. How about the last guy

Chris Lee - the guy from upstate NY.

[gkhouston]

34. Here's the first one I found. Feel free to look for others.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=439&topic_id=388181#388196

edit to add another thread from the Chris Lee scandal:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=439&topic_id=383866

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=439&topic_id=382984

[NYC Liberal]

36. Most of those posts are criticizing his hypocrisy on "family values"

not demanding that he resign. Some are. Some aren't...just like what's happening with Weiner.

Nowhere near "every one of us" as the OP claims.

[gkhouston]

40. I just added another link with an rather trenchant observation

from The Straight Story:

When a nude photo causes someone/party members more shame than all of their wars and suffering they inflict things are really fucked.

[Logical]

22. LOL....nice try!

[rustydog]

3. You're right, 100 %

[Greybnk48]

4. If there was an (R) next to his name the pics would have

been a LOT smaller and would have gone to young boys.

[LadyHawkAZ]

6. LOL!

[LadyHawkAZ]

5. Yes, but not because of the pictures

I'd be demanding a resignation for the same reason I always do with an (R)- because they are useless at best and fascist at worst.

[Lucinda]

7. No, I wouldn't.

A political party makes absolutely no difference to my POV on these issues.

[JI7]

8. we aren't demanding Vitter resign so why do you say that ?

[LynneSin]

17. We did. But Vitter was years ago

I didn't say we'd be successful at doing it, just that we would

[JI7]

21. we made fun of him but there wasn't much demand for him to resign

[lynne]

9. 100% true and the hypocrisy at DU is STUNNING -

- Also, don't forget that Weiner had introduced legislation regarding internet predators so the irony - and the hypocrisy - applies to him, as well.

http://mikeyounglaw.com/internet-lawyer/anthony-weiner-keeping-internet-devoid-sexual-predators-act/

[EFerrari]

15. The easy name calling and inability to see the big picture is STUNNING.

You'd think by this time, people would be more aware of being led by the nose.

Just STUNNING.

[EFerrari]

10. Nope. Because there is no Republican that has stood up for our issues as he has.

Vitter, Ensign, none of them ever did anything for anybody.

You're comparing a mistake to whole worthless careers.

[Bluebear]

13. + + + +

[LynneSin]

24. You're absolutely correct

But I would suspect that anyone elected from that district could do the same thing since it is a hardcore blue one.

To me though, as much as I respect the hard work he has done I don't respect the lies and how he made us look like fools for defending him.

I can't imagine why any politician in this day & age with the advanced technology we have still thinks they can get away with it. The fact that he thought he could makes me even more angry than what any republican has ever done.

If anything, if Weiner wants any future in politics I think he would be best to walk away now and distance himself from all of this. Although his actions disgust me now, that doesn't mean he could never turn things around. I do also believe that time will heal all wounds. As someone who is only 47 years old today, he could give it a few years and make a strong political comeback.

[tkmorris]

11. Actually you're wrong

I delighted in the scandals that various Republicans got themselves into, those similar to this one, because it made it almost impossible for them to get re-elected. I did not however demand that any of them resign. That is up to their constituents in cases such as this. Mind you that if criminal charges are forthcoming it becomes a different matter, but until they do it's up to Weiner for now, and the voters in his district come election day.

[The Doctor.]

12. Absolutely wrong.

We (speaking for myself and a huge number of non-Republicans) only demand that hypocrites, who have campaigned on such things as 'family values' and 'decency', resign from office.

Those who have proven they do not uphold the values they espoused in order to win an office have no place in that office.

Those who never made 'morality' a central or even ancillary theme in their campaign are not violating any pledge to their constituents.

Weiner should not resign ONE SECOND before Vitter, the far greater hypocrite, does.

[Mz Pip]

14. One thing I'm pretty sure of

is that there would not be the attempts to defend his behavior that there seem to be here. I think people would be gleefully cheering his downfall if he had a (R) next to his name.

[EFerrari]

20. Can you think of one outstanding leader that we've had

who hasn't had some kind of problem?

In the last fifty years or so?

Saying that we'd be cheering on the downfall of a Republican really doesn't speak to the issue. It's easy to cheer for the downfall of Republicans. They've never done anything for anyone.

Is it possible to step outside the Anderson Cooper "both sides do it" baloney for a moment and recognize that our Democratic leaders have been flawed, but that their flaws have been far outweighed by the good they did? I can go down the list if you need me to.

[sabrina 1]

31. 'his behavior' Did he chase little boys around the Capitol Bldg

while sponsoring legislation to protect minors? For ten years?

As far as I know, unless something else is reported, Weiner engaged in cyber sex with adult women. And he never preached 'family values' to anyone else. Also, he was stalked and harassed for months by mobs of tea-bagger freepers, and his wife was ridiculed and trashed all over the internet by these thugs. They also stalked and harassed his high school supporters. They were virtually, peering in through his bedroom window for months.

I hope they never target one of those who are now so righteous. I never knew how many perfect people there were on our side of the aisle. That's what I liked about us, we never pretended to be perfect.

He stood up in Congress and defended everyone's right to their personal sexual lives, gay, straight, trans, and never backed down in the face of the attacks from the religious right.

But now? I've learned a great deal about the 'left' as a result of this but I've also learned that the American people in general, are far more wise than those deeply involved in politics. Too bad the people we elect won't listen to them.

[cry baby]

18. not me. I didn't call for repubs to resign due to sex scandals. I won't call for Weiner to do so

I think that if he does choose to resign, then he should run in the special election and see if he can get re-elected.

[gkhouston]

19. A dozen responses and you've already been proven wrong.

Perhaps you've learned something about making absolute statements and presuming to speak for DU as a whole.

[Logical]

23. Not proved wrong at all!

[Bluebear]

26. lol

[LynneSin]

30. That's some interesting fuzzy math you got there

Seems you already had one reply disproving you assumptions.

I would have had more respect if you said "Some of us disagree" since I knew going in there that was pretty much a given.

Oh and I never assumed I was speaking for all of DU, so seriously don't do assume - it looks bad.

[gkhouston]

32. "If Weiner had a "R" next to his name every one of us would demand that he resign".

Please explain how "every one of us" is not "all of DU". Which DUers are not included in your tally of "every one of us"?

[Bluebear]

39. 'every one of us' is 100%, just sayin'.

[inna]

27. jesus, will you stop already. he's done. no need to do repub job for them,

they really don't need your help.

just let his constituents decide, don't join into this ridiculous media-whipped frenzy.


i mean, it's just scary to watch (not you personally of course, but how easily people in general are controlled by corporate propaganda).

[NYC Liberal]

28. It is entirely irrelevant, whether the person is a Republican or a Democrat,

if no crime was committed and it was not connected to their job (as a conflict of interest or similar).

I just don't care. There are more important things than this silly nonsense.

[krispos42]

29. Of course we would

We would be holding that Republican to his standards. Standards set by the Christian Coalition/Moral Majority PACs, publicly embraced and championed by the Republicans.


But we'd also not want the media to keep flogging this until there's evidence of an ethics or legal violation. We'd not want the media to decide who does and doesn't stay in office.

The problem with Vitter and Ensign was there were criminal and ethical violations of numerous federal, state, and municipal laws to go along with their personal failings.

[Taverner]

35. Not true. I never demanded that David Vitter resign

His diapers are none of my business as well

His voting record, however, is reason to consider him a traitor

[lumberjack_jeff]

37. Of course I would.

I want all the Republicans to either resign or be forced out. Duh.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

38. Give it a rest already. You people are being ridiculous.

unrec for pablum puking garbage of a thread