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rdking647 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 07:21 PM
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shut wisconsin down
since the wisconsin supreme court has now decided that laws dont mean shit its time for teh state employees to walk out. shut the state down. see how long the state operates without employees. State employees going to work means you are subservient sheep.
the GOP wants hardball,its time to give them hardball. SHUT THE STATE DOWN
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 07:22 PM
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1. We have 9 recall elections coming up. A strike would hurt that
Edited on Tue Jun-14-11 07:24 PM by PeaceNikki
so... no.

ETA: Instead help these fine folks fight Walker, AFP, Citizens United and the Koch Brothers: http://www.wisdems.org/candidates
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rdking647 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 07:27 PM
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2. even if you recall the senators
that doesnt change things. the law will still take effect. Since the rule of law doesnt exist in wisconsin any more its time for wisconsin employees to take matters into their own hand.
shut the state.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 07:28 PM
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3. Fuck that, we can take the Senate and we will.
So, thanks for the thoughts on our behalf, but no.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 07:31 PM
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4. They have to do it their way.
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 07:40 PM
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6. Sorry, but the rule of law does exist...
The outcome sucks, but Walker's union busting legislation went through the system, got to a conservative court not unlike what routinely happens when federal cases get to the conservative US Supreme Court, and they ruled in his favor. One of the very judges who ruled with Walker on this just won reelection by a majority vote of the people of Wisconsin (who bothered to turn out anyway). Elections have consequences and this legislation is the result of the 2010 mid term elections.

Some disruptive public employee strike is not likely to help our odds of knocking off some of the Wisconsin Republican state senators in the recall elections. We have an opportunity to tip the balance of the Wisconsin state senate back in our favor, and pissing off the voters is just not likely to help.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 08:15 PM
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 07:33 PM
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5. In your fantasy this may occur, but welcome to reality: it will not happen.
Isn't it easy for someone hundreds of miles away and with nothing to lose to demand that others strike and not work and if they do not then they are "subservient sheep"?

If it's such a good idea then you should leap if you feel froggy and do it in your own state yourself.
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rdking647 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 09:21 PM
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11. i may be in texas now
but i moved here from austin. I have dozens of close freinds who are public employees in wisconsin so I do have a personal stake
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riverbendviewgal Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 07:42 PM
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7. you all should watch the movie Matewan
it is on You tube.

America has really gone down the low road. I am so, so sorry for you all..
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 07:45 PM
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8. Mahlon Mitchell, president of the Professional Fire Fighters of Wisconsin
called on the crowd of protesters to turn their efforts to the recall elections against six Republican senators slated for this summer.

That's what the unions will be doing. Helping us.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 08:29 PM
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10. Perhaps that will be a necessary eventuality but when the gun you're using
seems true and is dealing damage, you probably should hold your ammo on the bigger guns.

I think you have to make a legitimate try with the process first.

Be prepared to escalate but always keep as much in reserve as you responsibly can.
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