I'm not sure how long it takes to recover from a depression/recession that was a decade...

[JuniperLea]

... in the making, but it sure as hell isn't 2.5 years regardless of who is president.

Had a Republican won/stole/been "selected" in this presidential election you can damn well bet they would still be throwing Bush under the bus.

[TheWraith]

1. Amen. nt

[still_one]

2. The republican platform is to do everything to not work with Obama, and make anything to improve the

economy fail, even if it means destroying the middle class and the country in the process

Since reagan, it has been proven time and time again, that deregulation and the "trickle" down economics not only didn't work, but created massive unemployment and economic catastrophe

Wake up people, we have been essentially living under republican policies since reagan.

How has that been working out for you?

[JuniperLea]

5. +1 !!

:thumbsup:

[RKP5637]

3. Definitely! The problem will be America lacks generational memories and

additionally has a short attention span, wanting to blame who's at hand. Hence, some of the American public will hold Obama fully accountable for everything than Bush. Pathetic as it well might be, I'm concerned that's how many Americans operate.

And compounding this, Americans thrive on instant gratification, so expect the same with an instant recovery.

[JuniperLea]

6. Generational Memories...

Exactomundo! I will always hold dear the stories my grandmother told of she and her 12 siblings surviving The Great Depression, and the frugal and wise things they learned along the way.

Instant society, instant recovery... yep... that is very sad indeed.

[kentuck]

4. Republicans are working hard to brand this as the "Obama Depression"

This is their revenge for Hoover. Limbaugh was attempting to do this on his radio show today. The economic collapse was because of liberal policies, not Bush and the Republicans.

[JuniperLea]

9. More of the "lie until it's true in the minds of America" campaign...

The sickening thing is, we know they are lying... and no one is coming forward and publicly calling them on their lies!

If we could only put the truth together in an "American Idol" format that is easily digested by the weak and feeble minded masses.

[RKP5637]

7. "If" the republicans took full control in 2012, most Americans might as well plan to

spend a good portion of their remaining years in poverty and/or working dime store jobs. The republicans fully lack the capability and conviction to return this to a fully functioning country. Instead, they will enhance the riches of their cohorts and install social engineering on this country that will make wartime Germany look like a paradise.

[JuniperLea]

10. "enhance the riches of their cohorts"

That's exactly what it is all about. But you know, should that happen, Obama would be blamed for decades because of the "Obama Depression" he left us.

:banghead:

[woo me with science]

8. And engaging in supply-side economics is not going to make it happen faster. nt

[JuniperLea]

11. Exactly right...

You can make a million widgets, and with no one to buy you'll not make a dime.

People seem to have forgotten the basics of supply and demand.

[liberal N proud]

12. i spent 2-1/2 years without work during the Reagan Admin

And I was just lucky to land a job when I did, it was because I had worked there before and the manager knew my work.

You must remember this recession was planned to kill the middle class and many of the perpetrators are still doing whatever they can to keep the pressure on the middle class.

This isn't simply a recession, it is an attack on a whole class of society.

[JuniperLea]

14. There isn't enough money in the mix for them...

They are greedy. No stone or turnip will be left un-squeezed for blood. You're absolutely correct... they want a two class system... the 2% who are freakishly wealthy, and the 98% of us who they want to be dirt poor.

[demigoddess]

13. At least a decade, you weren't around in the 70s, I guess

The reason the 70s were so crappy, is the Vietnam war and the recession that resulted from that. It got better slowly and Reagan took credit for it. Then we had hard times in the 80s but not as bad, tried to sell a house in both 82 and 89, both crappy years to sell a perfectly good house with no glut on the market but the job picture wasn't great. The Clinton years are the only good years I can remember since the 60s, pre Vietnam. Ps. In the late 70s and early 80s the mortgage interest rates were 10% and sometimes 14%.

[JuniperLea]

16. My first mortgage in 1985...

Was 15.75%... I remember T-bills earning 20%... I think that was just another plan to strip the commone folk of our money... I think... pft! Of course it was. I remember feeling uber rich while making $10 an hour... I make a lot more now, and feel poor.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

15. KICK AND FUCKING RECOMMENDED!!!!!

The Republicans are confident that we will continue to blame Obama/The Democrats for their mess. It's working on some levels and will continue to work unless the Democrats get their messaging right!!!

[JuniperLea]

17. !

Yep! WE need to keep talking, and we need to encourage our congresscritters to do the same!

[TheKentuckian]

18. Time to start actually opposing them and proposing policies that will be effective

regardless of how many votes can be had.

You DEMAND the blame when you refuse to vigorously call the opposition on their lies and subversion while insisting on operating on their side of the field.

Playing bipartisan and technocrat is a losing strategy. Obama is mostly viable due to the absurdity of the TeaPubliKlans.

The time for needle threading passed before President Obama took office. Being combative, relentless, and offering a very different narrative is all there is.

Obama started accepting blame when he accepted their basic economics and foreign policy. His little touches are just enough to be opposed in bouts of radical regressive insanity and similar enough to be destined to fail as all their silly policies have for decade after decade.

[JuniperLea]

22. Wow... I agree with a very tiny bit of that statement...

But really don't feel like opening a can of worms.

[TheKentuckian]

24. Thats it!

I'm going to buy a lottery ticket and sending the corpse of Reagan a scarf and mittens.

[Romulox]

19. The banksters that caused this didn't miss even ONE bonus check, thanks to the President.

It goes beyond "isn't fixed yet". It's more like "this President REWARDED the crooks who brought us to our knees in the first place." :hi:

[JuniperLea]

23. "Say on pay" is still in the works...

But some of the early banksters are in court now... we just aren't hearing a lot about it in the "news."

[girl gone mad]

20. What happened to those repeated assurances...

that bank bailouts and the meager stimulus were more than sufficient to get our economy back on track?

Stop being a Debbie Downer. Relax, he's got this under control. Recovery summer. Green shoots.

[JuniperLea]

21. I never heard anything like that...

What I heard from the Obama administration is that we needed more, and that this recovery was going to take a long, long time.

They were right on both counts... but people have short memories, so...

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

25. Why can the DU detractors understand this? I don't get it at all! n/t