What if we had pics and text from Republican scandals?

[spedtr90]

For this scandal we can read text messages that make us a bit uncomforta­ble. We see pictures that make us cringe. We have a front row seat this time. That does not make it worse than the scandals of Vitter, Gingrich, Ensign, etc. Those encounters were not in any way more pure, and the men's behavior any less disturbing. We just don't have the pictures to snicker about and the text messages for Bill Mahr to read like a comedy routine. Without seeing the pictures and hearing the private conversations, this would have been no different from the Republican scandals.
It is not worse than the other scandals.
He is not worse than the other men.
How the media is perpetuating it is much worse.

[JoePhilly]

1. Imagine if he had actual sex ... with a prostitute!!!

The media would be all over that!!!

And the person in question would have been forced to resign.

:sarcasm:

[Canuckistanian]

2. I always thought we slammed Republican sex scandals for the HYPOCRISY

Little did I know that some here are morally outraged by the sexual aspects alone.

It's like Wiener personally cheated on THEM.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

5. You thought right.

We condemn the "family values," holier-than-thou crowd.

[LadyHawkAZ]

6. +1

[loyalsister]

7. Not cheating

I would not have cared if he had just owned up to it in the beginning. HE is the one who tried to play to the puritans.
He lost credibility with his lies not his tweeting behavior. What a huge loss it is!

[Canuckistanian]

8. But what does that "tweeting behavior" say about how he does his job?

JFK was the WORST adulterer, but one of the best presidents ever. How does personal sexual behavior affect someone's professional life?

Would you fire your doctor, lawyer or accountant if you found out they did what Weiner did?

I don't understand this moral pedestal that people put politicians on.

[loyalsister]

9. As I pointed out

It's not the tweeting behavior that's the problem- it's his response to getting caught.
AND, the only person responsible for trying to appease the puritanical element is Anthony Weiner.

[Canuckistanian]

10. So the only only thing that matters is that he lied

And if he lied about what days he picked up his dry cleaning? About what he likes on his hot dog? What his favorite color is?

No. This is about sex. Just admit it.

[loyalsister]

12. It was not reflexive or defensive lying

He is the one that yanked that moral outrage chain, then didn't follow through in a rebellion against it. He scheduled lies with various press outlets in order to try to convince the morally outraged RW that he did not commit those "sins."

[OHdem10]

3. This is beginning to look like a fight between Media and Weiner.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

4. Speak for yourself -- a dick pic does not make me cringe.

And even if said dick pic was sent to me unsolicited, I wouldn't need therapy as a result of it. Cybersex between consenting adults does not upset me, even if they are *gasp!* strangers. And from what I've read, the 17-year-old's ATTORNEY has said there was NOTHING IMPROPER in the five Twitter DM exchanges. If that changes, I'll re-evaluate my position.

Next topic?

[customerserviceguy]

14. Not even the extortion angle (pardon the pun) of it?

I sure hope Democratic officeholders are smart enough not to send dick pix to random individuals, heck, that might even make you blackmailable by Breitbart.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

16. I wouldn't let Breitbart wield that power over me.

One thing is certain, Weiner's staff sucks (it is hard to avoid puns...oops, there's another one) at "protecting" him and offering PR advice. If I were on his staff, he wouldn't have been following ANYONE on Twitter or FB, except the NYT, WaPo, other elected officials, etc., and once this "scandal" broke, it would have been handled entirely differently.

[customerserviceguy]

18. If Weiner had come clean on this as soon as Breitbart threatened him with it

He would have had a shred of honor to stand on. If that had happened, then I would pretty much agree with those who say that this is between him and his wife. There would still be the matter of the extreme recklessness displayed, but the danger there is that someone will blackmail the Congressman with the fruits of his stupidity.

Being as he cut the phony deal with Breitbart, and gave our enemy a platform to look like he occasionally gets one right, Weiner proved that he was extortable. I'm sure that Pelosi, Hoyer, et al. had that in mind when saying it's better than Weiner resign.

[lifesbeautifulmagic]

11. there are pics and texts from repub scandals

it's just that they are protected by the media, members of their own party do not hold press conferences to call for their resignation, (generally) and everyday partisan people on right wing message boards do not constantly post about said offender (thereby moving him up the goggle). Or constantly post asking that said offender resign, "for the good of the party". In other words, repubs are very good at protecting their own, while at the same time, trolling sites like this causing mass disruption.

[customerserviceguy]

15. Which Rethug scandals could possibly have had pictures?

Did Schwarzenegger make a videotape while schtupping the housekeeper? How about Ensign, did he do that?

Just the Republicons lack of ability to use and trust newfangled gadgets makes them inherently safer than those from our side who do this.

[customerserviceguy]

13. Can I posit that by not leaving visual or DNA evidence

that Rethug cheaters are smarter than Democratic cheaters?

No, I don't really want to go there, but sometimes logic leads me in that direction. It certainly explains the different outcomes for Repigs over our side when hands are caught in the cookie jar.

[Nye Bevan]

17. We did. Of Chris Lee. Remember how that ended? (nt)

[Broderick]

19. Wiener likes to put himself

in a position of being blackmailed. Dangerous road to go, and he took the most dangerous route. Sending your graphic pics to anonymous internet folks expecting them to stay private isn't too bright. The beautiful girl on the other end of the message may very well be a Breitbart in disguise or a nefarious individual looking for perks or information or even so far as another country's spy looking for the inside scoops.... Just sayin. Not too bright in my opinion. Better to have went to have had relations with a hooker imo.......