Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Does anyone think Obama will change policies as a second term Prez?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
 
panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 05:37 PM
Original message
Does anyone think Obama will change policies as a second term Prez?
Assuming he wins, and I think he will. Ending the wars would be highest on my list. Does anyone think he's not showing a lot of backbone because he's angling to be re-elected? Here on DU, most want a more progressive Obama, but in the nation as a whole, many think him too progressive already. I sincerely hope that when he is re-elected, he will become much more aggresive, knowing he cannot run again.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 05:40 PM
Response to Original message
1. I think and hope he will. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RadiationTherapy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 05:41 PM
Response to Original message
2. No. As a matter of fact, we seem to be going down the same road as Bush
in relation to those who supported him. In the end, many conservatives (fiscal and values) feel Bush2 was not a conservative administration in any genuine way.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 05:42 PM
Response to Original message
3. no n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 05:42 PM
Response to Original message
4. He'll be able to let the tax cuts for the rich expire.
As a candidate he promised to not raise taxes on the 95% of Americans making less than 250k. If he broke that promise, he'd be screwed for 2012, period.

By extending them until the end of 2011, he can let all of the tax cuts expire with no political consequence.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 05:43 PM
Response to Original message
5. He will completely change his whole approach.
He will try to compromise more, and try harder to get along with Republicans.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 05:43 PM
Response to Original message
6. Nope. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 05:46 PM
Response to Original message
7. No, people will say that he will but he won't. Then the excuse will be his "legacy".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 05:51 PM
Response to Original message
8. No. Nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RZM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 05:51 PM
Response to Original message
9. You certainly hear that argument on the right
Some probably genuinely believe it, others think it's valuable as a scare tactic, and quite a few believe both.

I'm not so sure on the wars. Perhaps more winding-down in Iraq and the beginning of the same thing in Afghanistan, but those issues will probably still be salient in the 2016 campaign. I don't think Obama is going to take bold action here - he's going to defer to advisers on military issues and I think they will argue for withdrawal at snail's pace and significant rump forces being left in both places on a long-term basis.

I think immigration will be the real battle in his second term, though I don't think it's going to be a left/right debate. You have some very strange bedfellows on this issue and serious division within both parties, particularly on the Republican side, which is due for a major clash between Bush-style cheap labor folks and Tea Party types on this issue. Democratic politicians seem more united, but a lot of Dem voters will not be on board for any kind of major amnesty.

It's going to be VERY interesting to watch :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 05:52 PM
Response to Original message
10. Nope.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 05:54 PM
Response to Original message
11. I do not believe so. He seems to believe the DLC--New Democrat
ideology.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 05:58 PM
Response to Original message
12. No, he won't change. I clung to that idea for a while, though.
I was doing it because I was desperate to find some reason to disbelieve all his right-leaning political moves and placations as some over-arching Master Plan.

At a certain point, though, I had to stop, take a step back, and realize that I was constructing in my mind an entirely little world of Obama doing the wrong thing while secretly waiting to spring his trap and do the right thing- and that I could nolonger find grounding in fact for that, somewhat elaborately-constructed, belief.

Obama ran as a firebrand Progressive Democrat and he was elected as one. But that's not who he is, and he ain't about "Change" either.

Believe me, I've been where you are on this idea, so I certainly can't sleight you. But...yeah, for my own self I've moved passed that because the idea just won't float anymore.

PB
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 05:59 PM
Response to Original message
13. Only if he can get the Republicans to go along with it through negotiations.
And, if that follows the usual course, he'll compromise and accept Boner as co-president.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 06:08 PM
Response to Original message
14. Change for the worse, maybe. Change into a Liberal/Progressive? No way in hell.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
northoftheborder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 06:09 PM
Response to Original message
15. Do not think he will change. This is who he is.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
walerosco Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 06:15 PM
Response to Original message
16. nope
maybe on tax vuts but definetly not on the wars> he seems to be enjoying the smell of gun power
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 06:32 PM
Response to Original message
17. I am old enough to know that other 2 term presidents did. It will depend
on what kind of congress he has. He has nothing to lose because he cannot run again. I hope he will have a true majority in both houses and that he moves to the left in his second term.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 06:34 PM
Response to Original message
18. I think it's possible
Keep in mind. One of the responsibilities of a president to his constituency in the first term actually is to get re-elected. We all know that it is not likely to reach the promised goals in only 4 years. Particularly if they will result in some real differences. My hope is that he will be able to be more aggressive and lay groundwork for another Democrat to continue building on policies that I favor.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Mon Apr 29th 2024, 08:02 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC