About that 17 year old girl.

[pnwmom]

The mother said there were only two messages from Weiner to her daughter, “nothing obscene.” Weiner confirmed there were at least 5 messages, “nothing indecent.” Apparently the mother didn’t see at least three of the messages.

Suppose a normal, average 17 year old finds herself in this situation: all of a sudden she's national news because she was crushing on a Democratic politician and the two of them exchanged some private messages.

What would she probably do first? Delete most of the messages? Or immediately share them all with her loving parents?

:shrug:


So how can her parents really know what was in her computer? We already know that Weiner lied under pressure. And yet we expect that a teenager caught in this embarrassing situation wouldn't?

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/weiner_messages_to_teenage_girl_Jt3NbDrlaUp0ZpmlgGMplI#ixzz1OwYzpN5g


The mother, whose name is being withheld, told The Post Wednesday that Weiner sent nothing obscene — and only sent two brief messages to her daughter about seeing him during an April school trip to the Capitol.

http://www.tampabay.com/incoming/weiner-sent-messages-t...

NEW YORK — Rep. Anthony Weiner confirmed Friday that he had exchanged at least five private messages on Twitter this spring with a 17-year-old Delaware girl who became an admirer of his after hearing him speak during a high school trip to Washington.

[seabeyond]

1. learn a huge lesson that might serve her well in the future? nt

[HockeyMom]

2. Remember Monica Lewinsky?

They made a big deal about her too, even though she was what, 21 or 22, and clearly an ADULT. If they want to bring somebody down, it won't matter the age of the woman. After all, even adult women are helpless and clueless when somebody has an agenda.

[pnwmom]

8. Weiner's been digging his own grave, starting with that first press conference.

Outspoken politicians like Weiner have to know they'll be targets. At the least, he behaved like an egotistical idiot, with people he didn't know, and connected with a public forum.

[Sky Masterson]

3. Or maybe she didn't

Maybe, just maybe it was as innocent of a transaction as described and people are just trying to find a wrong where there is none.
Just because a guy sends a picture of his stuff to a women(who is of legal age) doesn't make him a fucking child molester..

[pnwmom]

5. Then why did the girl only show the mother two messages from Weiner

when he acknowledges having sent "at least five"?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=1278415&mesg_id=1278415

[Sky Masterson]

7. You tell me , Columbo..

You are doing a smashing job helping to carry water for the Breitbart fox crowd

[pnwmom]

9. Nancy Pelosi and other top Democratic leaders also want him to resign.

Are they carrying water for the Breitbart fox crowd?

[Sky Masterson]

11. No..They are just spineless wimps

.

[Whisp]

21. maybe they know more about this than you do.

obviously some things have come to light in the last day or so that made Pelosi change her mind.

The case may not be closed and more is to come. What are the chances that Weiner confessed to it all, what are the chances he is hoping to cover up something bigger with this confession of his, hoping it will go away.

He is a pathetic jerky liar so who knows what else there is.

[wisteria]

26. I doubt it, they are just reacting to the media and Repub suggestions that this situation

will cost them $$$ and votes.

[Sky Masterson]

28. I am sure they do.

And I'll bet it's far less damning than we are led to believe.
Democrats never stand up for their own so why should they start now.

[Whisp]

33. if I was in office, I wouldn't stand up for the jerk either

I wouldn't volunteer that tho and only would say when I was asked.

Thinking of Weiner from this day forward will always remind me of ballsmell and a hopeless schmuck. Why would anyone be expected to stand up for that?

and if you say dems 'never' stand up for their own, why are you a democrat? That is some pretty blankety harsh talk about the whole party in general.

[Sky Masterson]

36. That would be your choice

Politically it isn't a convenient thing to do.
I would rather they not comment until they actually find out if any laws were broken.
And the reason I am a Democrat is because the Democratic party represents my ideals more than the Republicans do.

[Riftaxe]

40. NM

[wisteria]

30. And, if they really did the job they were elected to do-heal the economy,

create jobs and keep us safe-this wouldn't be a problem for them.

[seabeyond]

14. you could be accused as the same seeing how one main issue is weiner validated breitbart

and in your defense of weiner lying, and apologizing to the ass, he fed the ass exactly what he wanted.

[Sky Masterson]

17. I'm not so much defending him lying

I just think the press is a bit full of themselves.

[seabeyond]

18. that is a truth. nt

[pnwmom]

23. Absolutely. And a skillful politician has to take that into account. n/t

[girl gone mad]

12. 2 messages from Weiner to the girl, 3 messages from the girl to Weiner.

2 + 3 = 5

[pnwmom]

16. The Times said that there were 5 "exchanges" -- not a total of 5.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=1275142&mesg_id=1275200

[girl gone mad]

27. So now you think there are ten messages total, not five?

Make up your mind.

[pnwmom]

32. I didn't say there were only 5 messages. There were 5 exchanges of

messages. It's clearly more than 5 individual messages.


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/11/nyregion/weiner-says-...

1st exchange:

Two days later, Mr. Weiner began following her on Twitter. On her profile, she says she aspires to be president. In a private message he sent to her, he said: “How hip am I talking to a future president.”

2nd exchange:

According to the girl’s family member, people in the group also copied the girl on some of the messages they sent to him, so she sent Mr. Weiner a private message telling him that she felt she was being harassed. He apologized to her in a private message, and removed her from the list of people he followed on Twitter.


3rd - 5th exchanges:

The girl responded to the appeal and posted a public message to him: “Don’t forget me. I used to follow you.” On May 16, he began following the girl again, and over the next 10 days they had three private message exchanges, the family member said.

SNIP

In a blog post on Tumblr, she later shared the contents of that private message from him. In it, Mr. Weiner appeared to liken himself to a superhero. “I came back strong,” he wrote. “Large. Tights and cape. ...”

[Name removed]

35. Deleted message

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[pnwmom]

37. Is there some reason you decided to make this a personal attack?

[HipChick]

10. Exactly.....folks are trying to read more meaning into this than server logs c

can show...

[pnwmom]

13. The mother told the Post there were only 2 messages from him but

Weiner acknowledges having sent at least 5 private messages.

So isn't it a logical conclusion that the mother hasn't seen all the messages? And yet she clearly thinks she has.

[la la]

39. you need to let this go............. n/t

[Fumesucker]

4. Completely getting rid of something on a computer is harder than you might think..

Just erasing something by no means implies it's actually gone from the computer..

Network stuff is even more sticky and difficult to totally erase.

[pnwmom]

6. Exactly. So if I were the parent of this girl

I would be defending her strongly, too. None of this is her fault at all. But I'd also wonder about what the police might be finding on the phone and computer.

[Fumesucker]

19. The police already said there was nothing salacious..

At least that is my understanding.

[pnwmom]

22. The police said that the girl and her mother had "not disclosed"

anything criminal. But the investigation is still ongoing and the phone and computer are still being examined, for "corroborating evidence."

[KingFlorez]

15. As I recall, it was said that five were exchanged

He may have only sent 2 out of that five, which means that he may not have responded to one of her messages at all and that's conceivable.

[pnwmom]

20. No, at least "5 exchanges" -- there's a difference.

Here's where they are laid out.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=1275142&mesg_id=1275200

[KingFlorez]

25. From the article I read, it said 5 messages were exchaged

You are entitled to read it however you want, I just don't agree with you.

[wisteria]

24. And, the five messages could have been nothing more then five short replies to

questions. You assume a lot here, like the 17 year old deleted messages that were inappropriate. I have heard or read nothing to substantiate your assumptions.

[pnwmom]

31. I don't know whether the 17 year old deleted anything.

Maybe she immediately went to her parents with everything. But I wouldn't be surprised -- or blame her at all -- if she's just a normal teenager and her first reaction was to delete anything that might be embarrassing.

[frazzled]

29. A smart person ...

who is in a public position of trust, with a Twitter account consisting of "admirers," would never send a PRIVATE message to anyone, except a close personal friend.

This exchange may well have been innocent. But one wonders why it had to be private. Why didn't she just tell him publicly, "Hey, Rep. Weiner, I was so glad to meet you with my school." And he could respond to her for all the world to see.

Grown men who have any sense in their heads would not be private messaging adolescents.

[pnwmom]

34. +1000. n/t

[classof56]

38. I dunno...likely it depends on how much money is in it for the girl and her mom

Since money seems to be the bottom line for almost everything these days.

Going back to my former sig line now:

Tired Old Cynic