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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 03:04 PM
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Pelosi and Dems Ignore Corrupt Clarence Thomas But Demand Weiner Resign


http://www.politicususa.com/en/pelosi-weiner-thomas


This has nothing to do with whether Weiner committed a crime, or his right to stay in office and let his constituents decide. Rep. Weiner’s Democratic colleagues are rightly outraged at him because he lied to them. They are livid, and they want him gone. It is that simple.

Ask yourself why Democrats are so obsessed with Anthony Weiner while at the same time they are ignoring the potential 20 years worth of actual serious crimes by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas?

It turns out that Justice Thomas may have broken 20 years of disclosure rules by not reporting the substantial income that his wife made while engaging in conservative political advocacy. Anthony Weiner was looking into this when Weinergate broke.

Instead of dealing with serious issues, the Democratic leadership has allowed itself to be sucked into and placed on the defensive by a scandal

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If he didn’t do anything illegal or against the rules then the voters in his district should decide, Pelosi and Wasserman Schultz are short circuiting the democratic process and are not helping the Democratic cause with public appeals for his resignation.

Weiner is going to take a leave of absence and seek professional help, so if Democrats really care about their colleague maybe they’ll give the grandstanding a rest.

The fact that Pelosi and Wasserman Schultz have each released more statements on Weiner than Clarence Thomas illustrates their misplaced priorities. Political cover is more important that corruption on the High Court.

If they really want to serve their country they should forget about Anthony Weiner, and investigate the disclosure reports of Justice Clarence Thomas.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 03:06 PM
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1. "Weiner makes us look bad!"
"And we'll keep talking about him until he's gone!"
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 03:09 PM
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3. Yup, true colors and motives are showing.
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 03:26 PM
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11. CLARENCE THOMAS IS A CON MAN
AND HEI WIFE IS A JOKE
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 03:28 PM
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12. + 10000000000 00000000 00000000
:thumbsup:
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theFrankFactor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 12:38 PM
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97. I Like the Way Democrats Put the Bush Adminstration on Trial and Delivered on Health Care,..
Gotta get rid of Wiener, did you see how he treats Republicans? Democrats can't stand for that kind of spine!

HARDY-FUCKIN'-HAR-HAR!

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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 08:10 PM
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22. He makes corporate sellouts look bad
and they don't like that.
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 12:27 AM
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24. They look bad with or without Weiner.
They look like a bunch of schoolyard children. Grade school. They all need to frikken grow up and get to work.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 08:20 AM
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50. No, Nancy, YOU make yourselves look bad quite singularly!
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 08:45 AM
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53. Yes, this shunning is brought to you by those
seeking to protect the image of the Democratic party. Or, at least the fragment of the party trying to be inoculated from attacks for their well known previous public affiliation with an outed sexter.
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savannah43 Donating Member (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 09:17 AM
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59. It's reverse hypocrisy.
Dems let go even the most egregious behavior by the GOP and crucify their own for virtually nothing. The US has become an ugly, demented, dishonest country. The only motivation most politicians have is getting reelected.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 11:55 AM
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87. The dems aren't worried that republicans will attack republicans
for condoning bad behavior. Dems are worried that they will be attacked by republicans if they don't make strong statements objecting to Mr. Weiner's behavior.

I really don't think the Dems had to be calls for resignation, they could have cleared firebreaks between themselves and Mr. Weiner by strongly denouncing the behavior...I don't understand waht personal/political dynamic led the Dems to the calls for resignation instead.

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RyanPsych Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 09:54 AM
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72. We should ALL contact
Pelosi (as the Demoratic leader not her individual seat), and Debbie W-Shultz (at the head of the DNC). At least try to make a stink about this
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 01:24 PM
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105. I just penned a note of displeasure to Nancy
Whaddya think the chances are it'll pass before her eyes once the postal system delivers it???

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 02:04 PM
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113. Contact her leadership office.
I guess Google will give you Debbie's email. I've been too angry with her to bother.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 12:02 PM
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90. But Clarence 'makes' us a bad bad people.
Big, big diff there. Looking bad for gossip and sanctimony's sake, while being corrupt and actually being world changingly bad are two entirely different things. Doing something that, while looking bad, is constitutionally protected and doing something bad that is not, (i.e. trashing the constitution that has protected us for hundreds of years) are two quite different things. High horse sanctimony v/ gross and very damaging criminality. We have chosen the wrong horse to raise our flapping hackles and that is a loser's race.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 03:07 PM
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2. but Wiener lied about his personal life
Oh and, "Impeachment is off the table."

Um.. who you working for again?
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 08:31 AM
Response to Reply #2
52. Who you workin for? Count de'Money!
Deeeee-mmmmooooooo-NNNAAAAYYY!

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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 11:12 AM
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78. Time to flood you representative with support for one of our greatest allies

Here are 2 numbers. I'm going to start another thread so we can call all of them, especially the ones who are crying for him to resign. I have the number for Nancy Pelosi right now. 2 of the others are Steve Israel and Debbie Wasserman Shultz

Tell them that the only thing that we know Weiner did is send a message to an adult with his underwear and admit to sending others - that penis photo is a joke - and talk with a 17 year old about nothing. The rest is CONJECTURE.

https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml



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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 03:10 PM
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4. It speaks volumes that this thread has been unrecommended off the greatest page.
Who is frequenting this forum?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 03:17 PM
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10. Oh, they've been busy since the "scandal" broke.
It would be wrong to suggest that we have sleeper cells planted here.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 06:36 AM
Response to Reply #4
42. I got a great lesson this week about
how the Party Faithful operate, particularly on the # of Times Viewed stats but also on the Rec. stats. These are the same people who bitch and moan about how the voting process has been compromised via electronic voting, but thinking manipulation of a discussion board is perfectly OK. :shrug:
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 09:23 AM
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60. "Who is frequenting this forum?" Those doing Breitbart's work for him...
And it matters not at all to me that he was right this time. He's still an evil little troll, who was tasked with taking the focus away from the utterly corrupt SC Justice Clarence Thomas, who should already be the subject of impeachment proceedings.

Breitbart's done a stellar job of it, IMO. And most Democrats can't see the forest for the trees.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 03:10 PM
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5. They also ignored impeachment of Bush, prosectuing banksters and war criminals.
They will be very glad to get Weiner out of the way. Weiner is what s real Dem looks like.
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 04:18 AM
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33. Anthony is a true Democrat, the kind I've always wanted to see more of
and now the faux Dems in Congress are doing their darnedest to get rid of him. No wonder we don't have, at least, a public option. No wonder we don't have BK reform that could've stopped a whole helluva lot of foreclosures on suffering Americans. No wonder we don't have real campaign finance reforms. No wonder we're in such a mess.

With Dems like these, who needs Republicans?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 08:53 AM
Response to Reply #5
55. We should be dealing with THAT reality, rather than supporting "lesser evils" like Weiner --
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 03:11 PM
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6. i'' tell you what, Ms Pelosi, THIS action makes me consider not bothering to vote.
Weiner is one of the best things the congress has going for it. Make him resign. Just keep on doing this crap to get more and more republican votes. you can have them they're yours. But you are losing the support of the people of America with every little step to the right.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 03:12 PM
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7. That's about where I am too...
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 01:47 AM
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29. I'm so furious. I may go join the green party. There are real criminals out there,
Bush and Cheney. They are still free!
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dhill926 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 03:13 PM
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8. + a bunch..........
investigate Thomas. Now.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 03:13 PM
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9. If corruption were investigated that would
change the status quo, and none of them, republicans nor Democratic leaders want that. They serve themselves.

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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 03:28 PM
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13. KNR. Indict Clarence Thomas.
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Warrior Dash Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 03:29 PM
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14. Not much they can do about SC Justices
The appointments are for life...
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 03:58 PM
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16. They can be impeached. n/t
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Warrior Dash Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 04:17 PM
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19. Yeah, but it' only happened once...and it's one hell of a hurdle to jump!
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 09:38 AM
Response to Reply #19
67. Wisconsin had only recalled TWO Senators in its entire history before this year. Now...
...there are six real recalls in play and three phony ones.

Give it up. Quit defending Thomas. Your argument is weak.

NGU.

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Warrior Dash Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 10:15 AM
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74. Clearly, I have not defended Thomas, unless of course you consider stating the facts as "defending."
Unless you have different answers to the following, you are FOS.

Is it an extremely difficult process to impeach a SC justice?

Did a Democratic controlled Senate allow his nomination to go forward?
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 07:11 AM
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45. What do you think Republicans would be doing if Thomas had been appointed
by a Democrat and was one a voices liberals could count on?

IMO, they wouldn't adopt the "there's not much we can do about it, since an SC appointment is for life." They'd be making a huge stink, and calling for his resignation. Look how they made "activist judges" stick. He'd become "Corrupt Clarence" and they wouldn't let anyone forget it.
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Warrior Dash Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 07:40 AM
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47. Did you forget that Thomas was approved by a Democratic controlled Senate?
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 11:00 AM
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76. No. nt
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disndat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 12:49 PM
Response to Reply #47
103. There was a huge backlash
against Anita Hill by afro-American men, so some Democrats backed down.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 03:30 PM
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15. it still makes me wonder why this story broke at the same time
Edited on Sat Jun-11-11 03:31 PM by sasha031
Weiner demanded thomas release the disclosure reports....

they are being shortsighted and fearful.
How would liberals react if they witnessed the leadership embrace and support one of their own, while the person got his house in order.


woops, I enlarged the page by accident

























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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 02:09 PM
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115. I don't wonder the least little bit.
Have you been paying attention to the British hacking scandal?

If any member of Congress has committed a sin while using his Blackberry, I think it's a safe money bet that Fox knows all about it and can use it any time.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 04:01 PM
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17. I read earlier this morning that Pelosi wasn't calling for resignation
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 04:12 PM
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18. Shouldn't talk of Weiner's resignation be off the table?
Just wondering. It's not like he's a war criminal or anything.
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Thumper79 Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 04:35 PM
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20. But, he's a Supreme Court Justice
and they are above the law. :sarcasm: I was really behind Weiner on his accusations about Justice Thomas and I hope he comes back after getting help and get right back on Thomas' ass. I don't know why liberal-friendly media doesn't talk about this. What Thomas did was egregiously criminal. He would accuse Democrats of trying to "lynch" him like he cried during his confirmation if they seriously went after him. :kick:
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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 07:09 PM
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21. Another link here stated that Pelosi did NOT ask Weiner to resign...
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 01:46 AM
Response to Reply #21
28. I just saw Debbie Wasseman Schulz on national tv calling for his resignation.
officially. representing the Democratic Party.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 11:10 PM
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23. Gotta keep our powder dry!
:grr:
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 12:37 AM
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25. Recommended!
Obviously Weiner's activities are far more serious than the criminal action's of Clarene Thomas. :sarcasm:

There are too many threads demanding Weiner step down on a prominent progressive board. It makes you wonder.
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orbitalman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 01:27 AM
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26. Boy, do I ever agree with this thread - Kick !
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 01:44 AM
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27. This is really making me furious. I saw Wasserman-Schulz on tv tonight. They
are out of their minds. It is making me want to leave the Dem party for the first time ever, in shame.

Are politics just about appearances and lies? Isn't it supposed to be about we the people and what we need as a country?
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 03:26 AM
Response to Reply #27
31. I tried to e-mail both Pelosi and Schulz.
I couldn't because I am from Ohio. I am becoming more pissed off by the moment.
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 05:22 AM
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34. Wasserman Schultz's chief of staff email is Tracie.Pough@mail.house.gov
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 05:30 AM
Response to Reply #31
37. Pelosi's Chief of Staff is Terri Mccullough, and her email is ......
Terri.Mccullough@mail.house.gov
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 12:05 PM
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91. Thank you! nt
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 01:25 PM
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106. Thank you for these! -nt
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 01:30 PM
Response to Reply #31
108. I tired too! same thing.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 05:26 AM
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35. It all started with Ed Shultz
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 09:34 AM
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66. No, it started with Weiner
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 08:55 AM
Response to Reply #27
56. It's true, and depressing as to how voters
in our own party fall for this pathetic shit. Image has become everything to the point where it is now an excuse to do nothing.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 02:00 AM
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30. And the Dems wonder why liberals like me are pissed
here's your answer.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 11:57 AM
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89. I agree, but I have been pissed for a while.
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elbram Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 04:14 AM
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32. This is a war people
Edited on Sun Jun-12-11 04:22 AM by elbram
...we shouldn't be so eager to sacrifice one of our most outspoken advocate/soldiers. Especially if nothing illegal happened here; let his constituents make the decision for his re-election.

Remember that the Republicans have David Vitter who admittedly cheated on his wife with prostitutes (which is actually illegal), and the Republicans kept him in fighting for their causes and did not ask him to resign.

Why should the Democrats be so willing to take the loss?

Especially since he seems to be one of the only one willing to publicly challenge the corruption in the highest court...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 05:27 AM
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 07:36 AM
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46. Democrats don't want to take the loss, just New Dems who see an opportunity
to rid DC of another of those damned Liberal peoples advocates.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-11 03:40 AM
Response to Reply #32
121. Plus one.
And welcome to the DU!
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JJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 05:41 AM
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38. When they ask him to resign
Edited on Sun Jun-12-11 05:44 AM by JJW
Weiner can just say, I lied about a private matter and I have not broken any laws while Justice Thomas has been lying about compensation that undermines the legitimacy of the highest court in this country. The questions should be are we a country of laws and when is Justice Thomas being impeached?
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 05:47 AM
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39. Last I checked Justice Thomas was not a member of the Democratic House caucus.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 06:40 AM
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43. Yes... But the last time I checked you can't ignore the law.
Ok...Maybe you can if you're a Republican... Rachell Maddow has a name for that: “Like Rachel Maddow said, It's Ok If You're A Republican #IOKIYAR”
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 06:52 AM
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44. Republicans do seem to have a different standard..
it is troubling.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 06:24 AM
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40. Thomas makes the dancing supremes look bad, if that is possible after stopping the vote count in FL,
voting in the bushes and making corporations people.

But Clarence Thomas has found a way to make a corrupt court look even more corrupt. I wonder who he will be taking bribes from next?
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 06:32 AM
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41. THIS says it all, doesn't it?
This country's corruption is from the inside out There is no democracy when WE'RE expected to play by the rules but the wealthy and powerful aren't. If anyone has any questions about why I can't stand Pelosi, just read the article for one of MANY reasons.
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MaeScott Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 07:41 AM
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48. K and R, hip chick. nt
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 08:12 AM
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49. It is all just political. n/t
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 08:27 AM
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51. They're pissed at Weiner because
Edited on Sun Jun-12-11 08:37 AM by The Wizard
He, like Alan Grayson, is willing to stick his finger in the face of Republican hypocrisy and corruption. His take no prisoners approach is very effective when dealing with a cult that never bargains in good faith.
The only way for America to get out of the swamp is to expunge the Republican Party, and real Democratic leaders like Anthony Weiner and Alan Grayson are the kind of people who will have to do it. Cooperating with Republicans is akin to drinking political Drano. Anyone who thinks dealing honorably with the likes of Mitch (in the closet) McConnell or Eric (anal leakage) Cantor or John (Oompah Loompah) Boner is either delusional or dishonest,or naive.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 08:52 AM
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54. Democrats should be attacking Thomas -- but Weiner is doing the party no good --
nor will he have any standing any longer to attack the pervert Thomas --

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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 09:04 AM
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57. The Weiner sideshow needs to get off the stage
That's why Nancy wants him to step down. I trust her.
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 09:06 AM
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58. If you trust her so much maybe you need to have her start worrying about stuff that matters! n-t
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 09:31 AM
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64. None of us have control over Nancy. Which is a good thing.
I don't know what's going on with du but the dem bashing has been amped up 100 fold.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 12:21 PM
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95. "what's going on with du" - maybe a significant number of persons,who were previously putting their
hope in the Democratic Party, people who REALLY were trying, until just now, to "Believe" despite everything, are starting to have a straw:camel's-back moment, because this DOES look kind of like the moderates taking very effective advantage of all of the centrist pressure, which has been building since the coming of Barack Obama, to establish a significantly improved bullwark for 50:50 indeterminist policies & tactics, timed nicely with the beginning of an election year. It's a move for increased political real-estate in "our" own party. Real Estate that will increase the likelihood that the TPB-chosen ones will succeed in their respective races, rather than anyone actually ordained by authentic populist support.

I have been biting-my-tongue, most of the time, and hoping, but it may just be, because of what this looks like, that I have run out of hope. I fear what this SELF-perpetuating "centrist", read that "DO NOTHING!" (not bi-partisan but rather a-partisan), cadre will do/not-do and how "rational", reasonable, justified, all of it will look relative to the crazy climes this country has steered itself into. The In-determinant Party WILL succeed and everything is going to get MUCH worse, before anyone has the courage to take the Liberal positions that would require CHANGE.

It is very possible that Mr.-n-dimensional chess Obama is spinning in a malestrom/a black hole; he's powerful enough to prevent himself from being sucked down (for now), but not powerful enough to pull himself/the Democratic party out of the pathological influences. He spins while our clocks tick; eventually, something will be found that they all can "do" and it will be done in order to make things looks better and there will be big hoo-haa over whatever it is, but, because Liberal truths have been excised from the whole process, by means of the party's reactions in situations such as this, whatever they "do" will not solve and things will only get worse.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 09:52 AM
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71. ++++++++1 n/t
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 09:27 AM
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61. And the justice dept.
They will make up a new interpretation of the law to go after John Edwards while turning a blind eye on the treason and treachery of bush and company.
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blackspade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 09:28 AM
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62. +1000
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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 09:28 AM
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63. Now you know why I think Pelosi is a bad leader
Taking impeachment off the table and now this. Worthless.
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 09:31 AM
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65. I'm sick of the comparisons. Thomas is a disgusting grifter,
and a silent slimeball who needs to be set a precedent with.
I hope to God it happens, and Congressman Weiner will have done us a service in shining the light on it.

The latter is one of us, and we are better than the behavior he exhibited. We need to stand with what I hope really are our principles.

These are utterly unrelated cases and transgressions.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 09:39 AM
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68. TMZ has more pics....he has to go
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 10:09 AM
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73. I think he has to go. He needs to restructure his
being a grownup and sell us on it.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 11:13 AM
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79. Do they have a blue dress too?
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 01:29 PM
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107. Don't need that
He handed out his blue dress so to speak via pixels and 1s and 0s. Forget about resigning and such; I have to wonder how someone can send any naughty pics to anyone not really knowing who is behind the other side of the moniker. Seems dangerous to troll anonymously. And you really become blackmail material in doing so. If he stays, who is behind the scenes that might have played a gorgeous female, but is really a nefarious soul holding cards over the actions of Weiner down the road??
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 02:06 PM
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114. Amazing. Dick from all angles?
Still waiting for the CRIME.
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 03:00 PM
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119. Yeah, right...
I think Mr. Weiner should resign on the very DAY and at the very MINUTE that David Vitter resigns.

And, not a minute sooner.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 11:18 AM
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80. Clarence Thomas is an active felon and it really should set anyone back
that no one in our government is doing anything about him.
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12AngryBorneoWildmen Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 09:44 AM
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69. Exactamundo
Thank YOU. I don't think Clarence has ONE redeeming quality. Call me shallow, but even physically, he is ONE ugly MoFo.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 09:50 AM
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70. Weiner is viewed as expendable to them-it is all about money and votes.
And, if they were really doing their job trying to help the middle class,creating jobs, and truly working on economic recovery, Weiner would be nothing more than a slight distraction and nothing to worry about.
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 10:45 AM
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75. Anyone who's on THE PEOPLE'S side gets drummed out.
Pelosi is a poser. Empty rhetoric. Done with her.

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Warrior Dash Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 11:04 AM
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77. Liars are not on anyone's side--except their own.
Who do you think we be the first to go--Pelosi or Weiner?
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 11:51 AM
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86. yeah, and which lies actually hurt the majority of Americans
I remember clearly after 9/11, Little Boots and Darth Cheney agreeing to go in front of the 9/11 investigative committee, but refused to testify under oath. Now I wonder why? Also, instead of having full access to all documents pertaining to the investigation, the administration declared only certain members could review the documents they chose.

Then there's the yellow cake lie, that wound up being the basis for exposing Brewster Jennings. How about the lie to the public using FEAR tactics after 9/11--Iraq has the capability of attacking us, you know that WMD and long range missiles. Or the lies about torture and how effective it was.

Thomas apparently tells a lie for how many years--if we did the same thing, we'd probably be in jail.

I can see him lying to protect his pregnant wife-but what about the lies that have hurt us, hurt our country? Those lies seem to be for greed and with Little Boots, probably pay back because of his daddy. And, to me, those lies have hurt (including economically) and killed more Americans than these National Enquirer like sex lies.

I care less about these sex scandals-I care more about the arseholes in congress who continue to hurt most Americans and watch our infrastructure crumble while selling us off one bit at a time to their greedy corporate friends (some not American). Anyone who stands for us, I'll vote for them in a heartbeat, including Weiner!
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 11:21 AM
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81. k&r n/t
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 11:28 AM
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82. RepubliCONS are telling the ....
Bluedog/supposedly Democrats/really republiCONS to put the pressure on Pelosi and Wasserman Shultz,to tell Weiner to resign.

The donors are calling and telling them the money stops if they don't tell him to resign its not about the lies,it's about Sex and MONEY...it's also about some in the Democratic party who are afraid that some may beging looking at them a little too closely...
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 11:43 AM
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83. It's easier than thinking..
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 11:46 AM
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84. They apparently don't care about what the Supreme Court has done to Americans.
They prefer to cater to the "penises are the devil" crowd.
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placton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 11:48 AM
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85. my democratic voting record of 50 years
moves even more into my rear view mirror
haiku about scum
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 11:56 AM
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88. Corporate democrats are pretty much the GOP.
I wish they would all form one party. Of course they won't go after a republican.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 12:05 PM
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92. He reflects poorly on our "product". We are Democrats.
Edited on Sun Jun-12-11 12:37 PM by PeaceNikki
He used the same account for public communication as he used to tweet his peeper. That's weird and wrong. If any of us had an account on Twitter or Facebook that we used for our high-profile jobs, then used it to find customers/potential customers who liked us to troll for people we could "cyber" with THEN used the SAME said account to do that, we'd quite understandably be toast.

I understand why the party leaders don't want the brand being associated with this shit.

ETA: And further, my party is facing a very difficult and very important fight here in Wisconsin right now. While Weiner is not from WI, any damage to the party directly hurts me and us. Again, I understand.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 12:08 PM
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93. HUGE K & R !!!
:kick:
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Witt78 Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 12:18 PM
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94. Simple Explanation.
They go after Weiner and ignore Thomas for one very simple reason.

They do not serve us. The Democratic Party is the left hand of the ruling elite.

One day we are all going to need to come around to this fact.
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disndat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 12:31 PM
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96. Wasserman-Schultz failed her first test
Instead of showing the leadership her job demands, she turned tail and ran,
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 12:39 PM
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98. I just said that to a fundraiser. No donation from me. DWS could/should chastise AW, but calling for
Edited on Sun Jun-12-11 12:40 PM by patrice
his resignation is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY over the line. Apparently DWS is rather full of herself right now, too bad, I WAS predisposed to like her.
Now . . . . :-(
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 12:43 PM
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99. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, HipChick.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 12:43 PM
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100. Exactly.
It all just pisses me off. Clarence Thomas needs impeachment and this distraction is crap.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 12:43 PM
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101. It's funny what will push people over the edge
I have supported dems through thick and thin, but their stance on the Weiner issue and the Thomas issue pushed me towards giving up on the dems. Their priorities are not the same as mine and I am done with them for now. No donations, no phone calls, no canvassing my neighborhood.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 12:49 PM
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102. I promised some rides to the voting booth this year...that is all
I am doing. If Dems will not stand up to the GOPers when needed...then helping them is a waste of time, they obviously only care about themselves and their careers (paycheck). Very disappointing and becoming the norm for Dems...'keep everything off the table that might fix a HUGE political problem spanning over 10 years and growing' is what I call it. Thomas must be removed from the bench and the Dems must do it NOW.

Not giving up, just very aggravating to watch.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 12:54 PM
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104. Frustrating as hell
I hate being played and getting nothing in return.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 08:30 PM
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120. Me too, if I wanted to whore out myself I would.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 01:45 PM
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109. A commment on the BETRAYAL of Rep. Weiner
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 01:46 PM
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110. K&R!
PB
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 01:58 PM
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111. Keith Olbermann's advice
http://current.com/shows/countdown/blog/advice-to-anthony-weiner-resign-then-run-again

"Resign, Then Run Again"



my advice... we don't let up on Clarence Thomas and the real criminals!!!
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 01:59 PM
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112. Our leaders don't have any priorities straight these days, do they?
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 02:20 PM
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116. There's nothing undemocratic about their publicly asking him to resign
They're just voicing their opinion. Not sure I agree with them, but whatever, they can say what they want.

But there's something very undemocratic about failing to investigate Clarence Thomas's fraud and ethical violations, conflicts of interest, and the corruption of our democracy inherent in those actions.
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 02:25 PM
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117. I'm disgusted with the Democratic Leadership at the moment.
It's absolutely RIDICULOUS that they are first in line to fire at Weiner while Vitter is still standing. I swear I am just fed the fuck up with the Democratic Party and their bend over and take it attitude.

And god damn Weiner too for causing this problem. Thanks a lot Rep. Weiner- Thanks A LOT!
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 02:45 PM
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118. Booooooooooooo
Hisssssssssss
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