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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 12:32 PM
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Troxler's last column for St. Pete Times: "There is no other Florida in the world"
He mentions that the phrase is familiar. It comes from Marjory Stoneman Douglas' book about the Everglades, River of Grass. Her words from 1947:

There are no other Everglades in the world.
They are, they have always been, one of the unique regions of the earth, remote, never wholly known. Nothing anywhere else is like them: their vast glittering openness, wider than the enormous visible round of the horizon, the racing free saltness and sweetness of their massive winds, under the dazzling blue heights of space. They are unique also in the simplicity, the diversity, the related harmony of the forms of life they enclose. The miracle of light pours over the green and brown expanse of saw grass and of water, shining and slow-moving below, the grass and water that is the meaning the central fact of the Everglades of Florida. It is a river of grass.


I doubt she would know the Everglades of today.

Troxler speaks in a different context....about what is happening to our state today.

Fixing Florida will be fun to watch...as a fan.

No other Florida in the world. No place nearly like it. Not where you can toast the flash of sunset at Mallory Square, and gawk at the castles along Palm Beach, and feel unstylish on South Beach, and see where Mickey Mouse lives, and visit the Oldest This-and-That in the New World, and follow Ponce de Leon's quest for the Fountain of Youth, and swim in crystal spring waters with manatees, and stand where humanity first reached to the stars.

Oh, yeah: And wear shorts in winter, and fall in love during an endless spring, and try to catch a fish now and then, and ski, and swim. And cut the engine and the light in the boat so there is nothing but stillness and thick dark air, and mosquitoes and stars, and the glint of eyes looking back at you from the swamp all around.


He mentions how a book by Gary Mormino, a history professor at the University of South Florida, St. Petersburg, describes the "megastate Florida, the crushingly developed Florida."

He mentions long-term thinking about the state.

We should make sure Florida has the water it needs, and the roads it needs, and the schools it needs. The business of our state should be something besides unrestricted, anything-goes growth. Those people making money off Florida should help pay for the costs of their growth.


But then he points out that we have chosen a "generation of leaders of Florida who do not believe in these values."

I do not think most Floridians fully realize, and will not for some time, the full damage of what has already happened in Tallahassee. Our state's governor and the majority of our state's Legislature believe in exactly one thing: making money off Florida. They have repealed many of the laws that Florida passed trying to make itself a better state. We have, quite literally, propelled this state back into the 1950s, and when the economy explodes again, look out.


He mentions he feels optimistic because more are aware of what is happening. I would like to feel that way also, but where I live anything bad that happens they blame on the Democrats and liberals.

My own thoughts are that is heartbreaking to see this state dying like this for the sake of idiotic ideology.

A good-by to Howard Troxler, one of the best.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 12:42 PM
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1. The housing boom has died. Maybe some of the parasites will move on to new hosts - HOWEVER -
the history of Florida is all about shady land deals and crooks of all stripes.
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 09:32 PM
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11. The history of Florida is NOT "All about shady land deals and crooks of all stripes"...
any more than the history of Chicago is all about Al Capone.

Your statement is a load of bollocks.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 12:55 PM
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2. Some might say...
that's a good thing!

Sorry, couldn't resist:evilgrin:
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 01:03 PM
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3. when the first oil spoils the beaches of Naples, Sarasota, Pinellas County
you're going to hear screams as to why no one thought that would happen.

Howard Troxler has been a voice in the wilderness for those folks here that thought he made sense, sometimes

we agreed with him, sometimes we didn't, but either way his columns gave us reasons to think.

I hope he has a great life in North Carolina and takes the break he needs from political journalism. This state

in its present form will give anyone with a heart for nature a large case of heartburn.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 05:08 PM
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7. When the oil spoils the beaches of Naples, etc....
they will surely blame Obama. I can tell people around this area to their face some of the things Scott has done....they simply turn it around on the Democrats. Then they accuse us of lying about Rick Scott.
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 09:34 PM
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12. You in Lee County or Collier? n/t
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 12:36 AM
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18. Neither...
That's why I put the etc.

They're south of me.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 01:18 PM
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4. I don't know why people don't call it FLOILIDA now. nt
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 03:19 PM
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5. A kick for Troxler because he deserves a post.
And because everything else is drowned among the posts about Weiner.

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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 03:21 PM
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6. Florida, Mass...but the beaches aren't as well-known there n/t

:+



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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 09:14 AM
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21. Heh heh
:hi:

And probably not as hot and sunny. Actually I did not know there was one. :)
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 07:34 PM
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8. There are some interesting posts in the comments after Troxler's column...
from Republicans who are disgusted.

A couple of examples.

"And for what it's worth, I have been a registered Republican voter for many years but have found myself feeling disgusted at what this party has done to this state. I even voted for Sink because I didn't believe in what Scott represented. I have a soul, and that doesn't have a party affiliation. And believe me when I say there are many just like me out there that will be voting many Republicans out of office during the next election. So there is hope, just yet....

Good luck and farewell!"

Another:

"And yes, here is another registered Republican - and a conservative one at that - absolutely disgusted with Scott and his legislative toadies. Let's pledge to work hard to get a new set of legislators in 2012 - and a new governor in 2014. Ones which will turn around almost everything Scott has done to our Florida."

One more:

"Count me in as a former registered republican who can't stand the turn the party has taken since it has been hijacked by extreme right wing wackos. I saw the tunnel rick scott wanted to take us down and I voted for Alex Sink. I will do everything I can to remove this governor and his republican minions in the next election."

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/stateroundup/article1174623.ece

You have to click link to the comments.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 07:44 PM
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9. It's kind of like finding Republicans who voted for Bush.
So who voted for Rick Scott?

--imm
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 09:27 PM
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10. I swear I think more are proud of voting for Scott.
Maybe it is just the conservative area where I live.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 09:35 PM
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13. Um, Miss Esther Rolle.
Enough said.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 10:51 PM
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14. Don't get the reference. I remember Esther Rolle.
Don't get the connection. :hi: Could you explain?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 10:52 PM
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15. Her name was "Florida" on Maude and Good Times :)
So there is more than one Florida lol
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 11:11 PM
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17. lol Thanks!
:)
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 10:59 PM
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16. Florida = giant swampy humid hot shithole.
I don't get why everyone wants to live there, the heat and humidity would kill me.
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 12:51 AM
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19. Because it isn't always hot and humid....
and being able to walk outside in January and February in shorts and a T-shirt has a certain appeal.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 01:19 AM
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20. Yes, winter is nice here. No sweaters or jackets needed until Nov. or Dec.
usually. Winters are worth the summer.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-11 12:46 PM
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25. North Dakota = giant frozen icebox.
Makes just as much sense, i.e., none.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-11 01:28 PM
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27. Most inner cities are just as hot and humid as FL on any summer day.
Summer lasts longer here, but October through early April is AWESOME.

Why do people move here? Most folks who come here from the northern states and are happy to have no snow to plow and arthritis relief.
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mcar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 09:48 AM
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22. He spoke truth to power
I'm going to miss his columns. I wish him well.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 09:07 PM
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23. A comment he made when he announced his retirement:
"April 21, 2011

I have decided it does not matter as much what one does in life, as whether one does it well, and continues to find satisfaction in it. The Emperor Diocletian, having ruled the entire Roman world, decided to chuck it all so he could tend to his garden, which I hope he did very well.

As for me, in the place we are going, I think I will learn to make jam, walk Louie the Dog every morning, try to be a good person and a good citizen. I can assure you that it will be far beyond the reach of the Florida Legislature."

http://www.tampabay.com/news/perspective/howards-end-a-look-back-through-columnist-howard-troxlers-career/1173382
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-11 09:56 AM
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24. As they suck water from our aquifers at no cost, put it in
plastic bottles and sell it. The state of health of Florida is critical. The wounds are deep and infected.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 12:24 AM
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29. I just noticed...
That Crystal Springs is branching out into selling Starbucks iced coffee. Maybe times are getting lean...with the strawberry farmers pumping huge amounts every time it freezes.
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Puget Progressive Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-11 01:06 PM
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26. Sunshine State
There is a good scene in the movie "Sunshine State" by John Sayles that comments on this. Go to Google and type in Sunshine State Nature On A Leash and watch it. My family lived in Ft. Lauderdale from 1952 until we moved to Lake Park (near West Palm Beach) and remained there until 1964 when my father got a job in the San Francisco Bay Area. I went back to central Florida briefly in 2000 and was astonished and depressed at the "development". Of course, California was called the "Golden State" when we first moved there and now it is a place of nearly 40 million people that is hugely in debt. Both states are a far cry from what they could have been. It would appear that John Muir was right when he said - "Nothing dollarable is safe, however guarded."
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-11 01:40 PM
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28. I watched Sunshine State twice. Great movie.
Here's the scene..

http://www.zimbio.com/watch/S9EpB4Sw8DV/Sunshine+State+Scene+Nature+Leash/Drama

"out of the muck and mangroves, we created this.."...they were on a golf course.

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