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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 11:55 AM
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Poll question: Which is worse: A politician cyber sexting or a TV star making violent remarks against gay people?
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 11:57 AM
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1. Christopher Titus said in his standup act that he would kill Sarah Palin
and I didn't see any hue and cry over that.

Morgan apologized. Time to move along.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 11:59 AM
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2. Do you honestly think he was threatening to kill his son?
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 12:06 PM
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3. Do you honestly think it's beyond the realm of possibility?
Because no one has ever been murdered because they were or have been suspected of being gay, right?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 12:07 PM
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5. Yes
It's way beyond the realm of possibility.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 12:17 PM
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8. Why?
No one has ever been murdered because of their sexual orientation? Really?

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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 12:06 PM
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4. What does one have to do with the other?
In what way does a stupid rant by a homophobe compare to 2 people sexting?
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 12:12 PM
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6. It's a plea to redirect self-righteous indignation. nt
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 12:18 PM
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9. well, that too
although not so much a plea as an observation.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 12:15 PM
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7. the public reaction to both incidents betrays our core values as a society
they are both situations which hit visceral, "moral" hot buttons in our country.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 12:20 PM
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10. Here lies an example of a moronic thinking and
how it is trying to influence others.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 12:27 PM
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11. There are lots of bad things in the world
I honestly don't think we should be required to pick and choose between them.

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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 01:18 PM
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12. Rick Scott. nt
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 01:20 PM
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13. The TV star does not have the public trust
If the TV star had sexted and the congress person made violent remarks against Gay folk .... the sexting would be irrelevant and the congress person (in my mind) would have committed an egregious act, betraying the public trust.

Regardless of how disgusting Traci Morgan's comments were (and they most assuredly were vile) he is a private citizen with no public obligations ..... a member of congress , on the other, hand has obligations to the citizenry.

A better question might have been what would have been worse, a politician making violent gay remarks or sexting? The Gay remarks would be far, far worse in this scenario.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 02:17 PM
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14. true
but then again who holds more sway with children and young teens in our culture - a politician that they probably have never heard of until these last few weeks or a performer on one of the most highly rated shows on television?
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 02:36 PM
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17. While that is true (I clearly find his tirade despicable)
Hopefully his career will suffer for his remarks .... but, at the end of the day he does not have an obligation to the public.

He (TM) can act like the largest ass on earth (he's doing a pretty good job of it) and the public will react to his product (him, as an actor) ... he will suffer the consequences of his actions/ or he will not .... but at no point has he betrayed the public trust.

My only point is that our elected representatives have the public trust. Traci Morgan sexting would not even raise an eyebrow ....and it should not, because he is a private citizen.

The "act" does not occur in a vacuum .... the person committing the "act" is as important as the act itself .

Children and young teens probably are not aware of Morgan's vile tirade ... whether they knew who weiner was prior to his sexting, they know who he is now ... and they know what he did.

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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 02:31 PM
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16. Not sure that politicians have any more of the public's trust especially
Edited on Sat Jun-11-11 02:32 PM by sabrina 1
to young people, than TV stars. Ask any teenager who their Congressmember is and then ask them who their favorite TV stars are, and I think you'll find that young people especially are far more influenced by the entertainment world than by politicians.

Sure he has the right to say what he wants, but his fans now have something to think about that they might otherwise never have thought about.

A politician having extra-marital sex, that's pretty boring considering how common it is, especially in the real world.

Are people influenced at all by what politicians have to say? Most polls show the public generally doesn't have a very high opinion of them at all. A similar poll on a TV star would be intersting.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 03:00 PM
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18. I think if you did a poll today
Who is Traci Morgan/ Who is Weiner ... most people would not recognize Morgan's name 9much less be aware of his tirade) .... and most folk would respond to the "Wiener" question with the "wiener" answer.

That, however, wasn't my point. My point was if Wiener had made the comments (tirade) that Morgan did I would be in line demanding his resignation from Congress ... and if Morgan Sexted I wouldn't even register his name or his act.

The person (or position) is as important as the act.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 03:47 PM
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19. Knowing many young people I can assure you they have no idea who
Weiner is. They do know who Traci Morgan is however. Teens tend to tune out when it's a politician. Out of six young teens and one 20 year old, I know for a fact that they do not know or care who Weiner is, in fact many of my adult friends still don't know they just assume it's another politician who had an affair.

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Lizzie Poppet Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 02:21 PM
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15. Not the right question, really.
I'd have posed it as "which is worse: a politician lying through his teeth for over a week about sexting or a TV star making remarks against gay people?" I'd still vote the latter, myself, but it's a lot more valid juxtaposition, imo.
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