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one_voice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 07:08 PM
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Issa Aide Linked To Weiner Twitter Tormentors...
The online duo who spearheaded a vicious months-long Twitter assault on Representative Anthony Weiner--whom they accused of improper contact with underage girls--apparently consulted with an aide to a powerful House Republican as they mulled over how to release information about Weiner’s purported relationship with a Delaware teenager, The Smoking Gun has learned.

In a series of e-mails exchanged on May 25, Mike Stack and his Twitter sidekick “Dan Wolfe” discussed a Tumblr posting by the high school student that they believed showed she was having “private conversations” with Weiner. Wolfe, who noted that he had made screen captures of the girl’s Tumblr blog, exclaimed, “This is MAJOR!”

*snip*

After Wolfe told Stack about making the screen captures from the girl’s Tumblr page, Stack suggested how they could release the information: “I think that since we have the stuff screencapped we call or email his office. But cc a whole bunch of people asking for a comment.” But Stack then noted, “She is underage, however. Let me email Darrell Issa press sec.”

Stack, e-mails reveal, was referring to Seamus Kraft (pictured above), press secretary and “director of digital strategy,” for the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, which is chaired by Issa, a California Republican. Issa, who has called the Obama administration “corrupt,” is effectively the leading congressional investigator.

*snip*

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/internet/issa-aide-linked-weinergate-096417
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 07:09 PM
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1. There you have it, folks
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 07:13 PM
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2. Repukes are always looking for ways to get rid of the competition.
They will stoop to any low depth to do so.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 07:15 PM
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3. All of that just further solidifies the sheer fucking stupidity of his reckless actions.
They may have placed the bait but that idiot bit.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 07:42 PM
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5. Blame the victim, not a word of condemnation for these operatives
Edited on Fri Jun-10-11 07:48 PM by sabrina 1
What will you say when they snag their next target? I hear they have two in their sights, one is Al Franken, the other is Bernie Sanders. You think they won't succeed?

What happened to Van Jones? Was he stupid? He had an opinion years ago and the Dems, as always, got rid of him instead of LAUGHING at the very idea that it is a crime to have an opinion. Why did they go after him? Because of his activism on his website, Color of Change and his success in his campaigns going after liars like Beck eg.

So with that success under their belt, (I'm sure even they didn't think it would be so easy,) they moved on to their next target. And their next and their next. And every time rather than fight, in fact rather than even investigate, Dems couldn't move fast enough to get rid of their targets. Ask Shirley Sherrod or Juan Carlos Very among others.

Not once, not even one time, did the Dems take a stand and say 'enough'. On the contrary, they more targets they aimed for, the quicker the Dems jumped to give them what they wanted.

And the sad thing is they could have wiped them out. All it would have taken was a little courage. Nearly every single target they took out, was innocent of anything. Did Dems care about that?? No, politics they said, we have to think of our image. Well, now, their image is tarnished, not because of any of Breitbart's targets but because people are furious that they have encouraged this behavior, these dirty tricks to damage good people, to achieve their stated goal of wiping out liberalism in this country.

Weiner is not the problem, even if this time they caught someone actually doing something wrong. But even if they didn't, they would have found a way to get the Dems to get rid of him anyhow. The problem is that there is a huge, well-funded organization that is ruthlessly going after every, single Democrat who dares to take on the corruption on the right, the Clarence Thomases et al, and simply because they hate democracy.

Weiner is just one more hit for them, one more notch on their guns, he is one of a long list, going way back. Clinton foiled them but even before that they were doing it and they will keep doing it until someone stands up to them.

Are you happy with Al Franken as a Senator? Is there anything that could change that do you think? I can't think of anything. But they can. If they got Van Jones on an opinion, they WILL get Al Franken. Did anyone think they would get Weiner???

Everyone has something that Breitbart and his goons can turn into something way bigger. Everyone. And while I used to dismiss them, I don't anymore. I have to grudgingly give them credit for being so very good at what they do. I think they probably have on their team, former CIA members working on the psychological aspects, they certainly have access to them and they have endless amounts of money being poured into their organization by hugely wealthy funders.

So keep tossing people, like Jones, Sherrod, ACORN, Weiner, Patrick, Vera et al. Does anyone think that doing so will end this?

When are we going to take a stand and expose them and their possibly illegal funders who they WILL not talk about and the media, fearful of angering Breitbart or in collusion with them, refuse to ask about.

That vast rightwing conspiracy Hillary talked about. It IS real and Breitbart is just a front for it.

I don't know how Weiner voted on the ACORN defunding bill. But if he voted for it, then he helped bring about his own troubles.

Maybe he's thinking about that now unless he was one of the courageous 75 who voted against it.

I remember being horrified when they dropped her so quickly without even investigating, considering the source.

And they will keep coming after Democrats. Unless someone stops them.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 08:02 PM
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8. Thank you!
:kick:
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 08:05 PM
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9. Weiner is a victim of his own poor judgement. Weiner brought this upon us all.
Franken wouldn't so something so ridiculously stupid.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 08:40 PM
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20. You are very certain of that. Breitbart doesn't agree, so we'll see I guess.
We would have said the same thing about Weiner a month ago. And it doesn't need to be something stupid. Was Van Jones stupid? Juan Carlos Vera?
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 08:47 PM
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22. Van Jones and Vera didn't do what that jerk said they did. Weiner did.
And if any other politician did or does something similar, I would think they were colossally stupid, too.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 08:59 PM
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26. What did Wiener do that was illegal??
So far all we know is he engaged in cyber sex with consenting adults. Sex is stupid? That means that about 99% of the planet's residents are stupid I guess.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 09:00 PM
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27. Who said illegal? I said stupid.
He used his position as a hook to troll for chicks online.

He sought out his supporters via Facebook and Twitter. He didn't create an anonymous account to get his rocks off. He didn't TRY to be careful and discreet. No, in fact, he sent pics with his face, his name, photos of his family in the background with this egotistical "LOOKIT ME, I'M ANTHONY WEINER, HERE'S MY WEINER!!" shit. To anonymous people. Coulda been Breitbart, Chris Hanson, a minor.

Stupid. And maybe illegal if any were minors. He himself said he "can't confirm"; to the "best of his knowledge".
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 09:22 PM
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32. So, sex is stupid.
How stupid were Breitbart's thugs who harassed under-aged followers of Weiner to the point where their mothers complained about it and deleted their daughters' accounts because of the harassment?

Patriot76 eg, one of the harassers, was interviewed last week and confessed that he was worried 'about legal ramifications' for himself for what he did in the effort to 'get Weiner'. Apparently he already has legal troubles and a record. He is angry now because he was dropped he claims by the guy who 'got me involved'.

I think those minors did not deserve that kind of harassment simmply because they were interested in politics.

We don't know anything other than so far, Weiner was engaged in a legal activity conducted privately on his DM page. If there is more than that, we will find out. But it appears that there were other issues also, possibly crimes, in the attempt to 'get him', using young girls to do so.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 09:24 PM
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33. No. Read my post again.
Edited on Fri Jun-10-11 09:26 PM by PeaceNikki
Non-anonymous cybersex with people you don't know and can't trust while you're a respected member of Congress is.

Weiner did that. Nobody made him.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 09:06 PM
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28. Vera and Van Jones lost their jobs and are still being smeared all
over the internet. Many here on DU at the time, thought that Vera was 'stupid' and had probably done something wrong. Were you one of them? People like me, because I prefer to have all the facts especially when the source is Breitbart, no matter how 'bad' it looks, and it certainly did at that time, refused to accept those claims until the man had a chance to be heard, in court if necessary. Congress including Democrats, apparently thought he did some the MORE than stupid. And everyone was so certain.

So, you go ahead and condemn a man who so far as we know now, engaged in perfectly legal cyber sex which without Breitbart the destroyer of lives, no one would or should know about.

I will wait as I did last time, even thought it took more than a year. A person's right to not be judged guilty means a lot to me, until they ARE.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 09:09 PM
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29. Fact is that he tweeted his peeper to people he didn't know and couldn't trust.
Edited on Fri Jun-10-11 09:10 PM by PeaceNikki
No, I didn't call Vera stupid, you can check my history.

Weiner used his position as a hook to troll for chicks online. He sought out his supporters via Facebook and Twitter. He didn't create an anonymous account to get his rocks off. He didn't TRY to be careful and discreet. No, in fact, he sent pics with his face, his name, photos of his family in the background with this egotistical "LOOKIT ME, I'M ANTHONY WEINER, HERE'S MY WEINER!!" shit. To anonymous people. Coulda been Breitbart, Chris Hanson, a minor. We know that. He admitted it and we've seen evidence.

Stupid. And maybe illegal if any were minors. He himself said he "can't confirm"; to the "best of his knowledge".

I have no problem with the cyber or real sex or the fidelity or even the lying about it. I have a problem with the sheer stupidity of his behavior.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 08:13 PM
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11. you aer saying weiner is a victim? i didnt read the whole thing but... wow. nt
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 08:44 PM
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21. I am saying that Juan Carlos Vera, Shirley Sherrod,
Edited on Fri Jun-10-11 08:45 PM by sabrina 1
Van Jones, Al Franken (they're still working on him) and so many more too many to list here, including Weiner, all were targeted by the Far Right Hate Machine fronted by Andrew Breitbart. And yes, all were victims of that organization.

And there will be more. We know that Bernie Sanders is on the list, Al Franken and several others. What would you call it when you are harassed for months or years by a political group of idealogues? I would call it being victimized. Two of them are now suing Breitbart. More need to do so.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 09:16 PM
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30. huh. you notice the people that have been or exonerated or not "caught" and why?
Edited on Fri Jun-10-11 09:16 PM by seabeyond
the ones that didn't do anything.

weiner isn't a victim.

and if there is no play with kids i still say, he should stick it out. but victim he isn't. i dont live life shifting blame for what i do and i dont teach my kids that life either. i dont give it to others. you go on and on about not making females into victim, yet see what you do. truly, amazing. lol oh noes...
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 09:28 PM
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34. They have not been exonerated. They are still the victims of people
who believe they did something wrong and Juan Carlos Vera's life was destroyed and has not been restored because so many people even here, on DU, I remember it well, condemned him. He is now attempting to get some justice. He, in case you don't recall, was accused of facilitating the trafficing of young girls for prostitution purposes. And the media and the Democrats promoted that lie and many still believe it.

Weiner is one of Breitbarts many victims. If all he did was what we know now, he most certainly is a victim of Breitbart. Should anyone's life be destroyed as his is at the moment because someone hates his politics?
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 08:39 PM
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19. "Victim"?!? he did this to himself
if he had been behaving like mature adult instead of 12yr boy there would have been NOTHING for anyone to use against him. ANY Democrat who doesn't realize the other side is out to get them is just STUPID and no victim.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 08:57 PM
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24. What did he 'do to himself'???
So far all we know is he was engaged in cyber sex with adult women. Is that illegal?

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 09:19 PM
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31. what did these people do? they exposed what was on the net. is that illegal?
if that is the only thing that matters, if it is legal, then what is your beef with these people that exposed.

oh wait

they are pigs and creeps and scum

and weiner.... well, stupid and arrogant and irresponsible.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 09:42 PM
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35. Seriously, do you know who they are?
What did they do that was illegal? Is harassing young girls simply because of their politics, because they were followers of Weiner, to the point where their mothers complained about it and erased their daughters' accounts, legal? I don't know, I'm not familiar with the law on that regarding online contacts. In RL it certainly would be.

And since one of those thugs, who already has a police record, admitted in an interview last week that he 'may have legal problems' because of what he did in the effort to 'get Weiner', maybe he does know the law better than I do.

Imho, if you harass someone's young friends to the point where they have to hide, in an effort to spy on that person's private sex life, and you use someone who has already been in trouble for 'spouse abuse' to do it, you might be breaking the law.

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 07:48 PM
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6. I think a majority of men would.
Men are not angels, you know.

Democratic men are going to have to start doing background searches on any female who throws herself at them from now on.

The rest of us would do well to realize that sex isn't the problem facing this country today, massive corruption is, especially among Republicans.

The worst thing we can do is give Breitbart and his sugar daddies what they want.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 08:06 PM
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10. Yes, the worst thing Weiner could have done is played right into their hands.
And he did.

He's an idiot.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 08:16 PM
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12. And the worst thing Democrats can do is clutch their pearls
and call for him to resign over it.

Had he been caught taking bribes, sure. However, drunk texting (which I'm betting it was) is the most worthless scandal I've ever seen. It's nothing.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 08:18 PM
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13. I clutch nothing but marvel at his stupidity. I haven't called for any such thing.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 08:34 PM
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15. Oh, yeah, it was stupid
Men who think with the wrong head generally do stupid things eventually.

However, it's time to move on.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 08:35 PM
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16. Honestly, I think the circus has just begun.
And it's a crying shame Weiner did this to himself and us.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 08:37 PM
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18. It's a crying shame he walked into a setup
which is what it's starting to look like it was.

When Issa's office is involved, something besides a flirtatious Congressman has been happening.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 10:52 PM
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38. Exactly. He's a damned PUBLIC OFFICIAL who should know better than
to have anything but professional conversations online.

I don't care if it doesn't seem fair or right, but that's the way of the world with American politics and the media we have now.

He brought this on himself, and apparently didn't learn a damned thing about what happened to his wife's boss' husband.
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fredamae Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 07:19 PM
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4. OOOoooooppps n/t
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 07:51 PM
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7. Issa wrote the ACORN defunding bill.
This is a huge cult-like organization whose main goal is to 'destroy the evil of liberalism' in America. The real operators remain in the background. Breitbart and O'Keefe are the hired hands to go out and do the dirty work.

I'm sure more than Issa was informed about this latest operation.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 08:47 PM
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23. Yes, hired hands ...



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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 08:21 PM
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14. that just means that weiner critics are secretly issa fanbois as well
:sarcasm:
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 08:37 PM
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17. That's inDICTable!1 n/t
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 08:58 PM
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25. Oh please Gawd, let this lead to Issa, himself,
and be the beginning of exposing him for the criminal he is.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 10:32 PM
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36. + 1,000,000
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 10:48 PM
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37. Breitbart and now Issa...the plot thickens.
Kick to the fucking stars.
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