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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 01:55 PM Original message |
Why Can’t More Poor People Escape Poverty? A radical new explanation from psychologists. |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
1. ok |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 02:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Sorry wrong place. iPhone. Nuff said. |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 02:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. "Alert" on your own post -- the moderators will probably put it where you request. (NT) |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 02:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Done. I had no idea we could request this. |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 02:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. heh. |
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DebJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
6. Oh..so the point is poor people remain poor because of their |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 02:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I think it's more that it's exhausting to be poor, because there are far more |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 02:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. It may help to design programs to help people in the cycle. |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 03:52 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. But the article does not seem to be pushing that correctly. |
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justabob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 01:12 AM Response to Reply #17 |
44. you got it |
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StarsInHerHair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 02:32 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. yeah, I don't think it's flagging willpower but being WORN DOWN by poverty |
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TheDebbieDee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 02:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. The whole subtext that people somehow deserve the bad things |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 02:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. I don't expect much from "The New Republican" magazine anyway. nt |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 03:15 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. thanks for the heads up |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 04:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
20. No doubt |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
11. This article is |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 03:01 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Or maybe the truth is we like that the poor spend everything they have. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 03:09 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. WTF? |
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Sentath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 04:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
24. This article is hateful, |
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RagAss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
13. Free Will is a taught delusion. |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
16. I believe that part of this analysis hits the nail on the head, that being |
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Hutzpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
18. IBTL |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 05:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. why would this be locked? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
19. If only poor people *willed* it, there would be more jobs and higher wages? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 04:20 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. You answered your own question with your qualifier.... |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
22. Poorly designed test. Feeding radishes to food-deprived people will leave them with low blood sugar |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 04:44 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. The did they say there were a hundred more experiments over 13 years that corroborated it. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 07:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. Nobody disputes that. |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 07:18 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. That isn't the implication that I took from the study, here is what I took from it and |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
23. I agree. K&R |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 04:50 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. And having no or too little income to survive amounts to no savings. n/t |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 05:57 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. +1000 |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 06:16 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Exactly and that's why I posted up-thread that a living wage and universal single payer health-care |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 12:45 AM Response to Reply #34 |
42. Universal health care will go a long way toward reducing bankruptcy. |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
27. People seem to miss the article's points, they're so busy defending themselves or theirs. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 05:25 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. No one is missing the point of the article, and |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
28. hmph! |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
30. Money cures poverty. |
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etherealtruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 07:10 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. Cures financial poverty every time |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 09:56 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Too often inversely proportional. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
32. I can vouch for the diet/overeating part |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
36. Choices are soooo difficult. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
39. Could such psychology explain why the upper middle class is so incredibly greedy? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-11 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
40. What a bunch of fucking BS! It's the "poor people don't know how to save" crap all over again. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
43. Wow, the second piece of "academic" nonsense I've seen here this evening |
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6000eliot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 01:40 AM Response to Original message |
45. Of course the answer can't possibly be that capital requires a cheap labor force. |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 02:41 AM Response to Original message |
47. There is clearly choice involved |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:18 AM Response to Original message |
48. Surprisingly, the article does mention, in passing, one solution that actually works: |
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