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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 12:16 PM
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Anthony Weiner Apartment, Condo Photos Could Disprove Ethics Probe
Edited on Fri Jun-10-11 12:18 PM by HipChick
Like I've been saying...you have to be able to prove hearsay..and area codes don't mean anything anymore, I can be in LA, and have my DC 202 area forwarded,and come up on caller ID...I'll be on the otherside of the pond, and use my VOIP US phone number to call back to the states, no one is none the wiser that I'm actually calling from the UK...unless actual phone recordings are produced , even time stamped phone calls can't prove much..

http://news.lalate.com/2011/06/09/anthony-weiner-apartment-condo-photos-could-disprove-ethics-probe/

Anthony Weiner and Huma Abedin apartment photos, pictures Weiner released of his Forest Hills, Queens condo when he put it up for sale recently, were discovered Thursday. Those photos inside Weiner’s home, which appear to depict even Huma Abedin herself, could aid Weiner’s assertion that he do not committed a violation of any House ethics rules. Anthony Weiner on Monday told news that he committed no wrongdoing in sending pictures to six women, three since his marriage to Huma Abedin. One woman claimed that Weiner called her with a Congressional office phone number. But since that news conference, Congressional leaders have debated whether Anthony Weiner took his pictures inside Congressional office or in his residence. These newly released images of the Forest Hills condo appear to suggest that Weiner did not take the pictures inside government offices
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 12:22 PM
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1. Nitpick, nitpick, nitpick
Breitbart is still desperately trying to turn this into a scandal and I'm delighted to say the majority of us is not buying it.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 12:25 PM
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4. Me too, Warpy. I hope Weiner goes on to be Mayor of NYC
And Breitbart continues his drunken rants online which I find far more offensive than someone engaged in cyber sex. Anyone who has not seen his drunken, hateful online rants really ought to take a look and decide which is more offensive, a photo of a penis, or his tirade against Ted Kennedy on the occasion of his death.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 12:31 PM
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6. I wonder how much of this he's bought and paid for?
I think there needs to be an investigation as to the origins of all contact between Weiner and all of the women known about so far. It could be that Weiner's "habits" were known and he was set up... given the bait... who zoomed whom?

I'm not excusing him, I just don't trust Breitbart as far as I could throw him.

Just because the media is using him doesn't mean he has any actual credibility.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 02:20 PM
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25. Breitbart is an idiot with funding and rightwing backers.
Edited on Fri Jun-10-11 02:20 PM by EFerrari
For example, on the BookTV front page, there is a short list of featured books -- it's where your eye goes when you load the page.

Brian Lamb has had AB's book on that list for weeks where most books get one week. And how does someone who has been proven wrong on every big story before this one get invited back to CNN, etc.?

Breitbart isn't very smart and he's certainly not a journalist but he is a RW front with some money behind him somewhere.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 02:16 PM
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24. I hope this blows back all over that @ss. n/t
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 12:22 PM
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2. Wasn't that woman paid by ABC news?
Not sure if that was the one, but when you pay someone for news, they cannot be trusted not to enhance their stories to earn that money.

Shame on ABC. I wonder how much of their other news is bought and paid for?
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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 12:46 PM
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10. Yeah, that makes sense
The person being paid for their story can't be trusted, but the person who actually lied can be trusted.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 01:15 PM
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14. what is your estimate of the % of people who actually think that way?
. . . people, over the age of pre-teens that is.
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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 01:26 PM
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16. Seems to be pretty high
at least here on DU.

Sad.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 01:47 PM
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17. many games here. nt
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 01:52 PM
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19. Maybe DU has a high proportion of people < 25-30 ? ?
Edited on Fri Jun-10-11 02:18 PM by patrice
Reliance on false dichotomies is a characteristic of pre-principle-based cognitive development, from a rather loosely-generalized Piaget -ian (and, by extension, also Kohlbergian) sense of that discussion.

Although there ARE tons of people >25-30 who also depend almost completely on at least a, possibly selectively, limited application of principle-based cognitive functions, habitually.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 12:51 PM
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13. what will really infuriate briehart and the right wing, is if Anthony can pull through this
get the help he needs and come out of the other side stronger.
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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 12:24 PM
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3. Are you suggesting...
... that he went to the trouble to disguise his area code and phone number but didn't think it was prudent to hide his actual identity while distributing pictures of his crotch?
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 12:27 PM
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5. When did he publicly 'distribute pictures of his crotch'?
Edited on Fri Jun-10-11 12:27 PM by sabrina 1
You're getting confused. Thankfully his constituents seem to get it. The bad guy here is the creepy, peeping tom, Andrew Breitbart.
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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 12:37 PM
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7. I go by what I hear...
"Weiner told the media that he attempted to privately message the explicit photo to a young woman, but mistakenly sent it publicly. He then panicked and attempted to delete it immediately, but by then it was too late. He also admitted to other inappropriate online activities."

http://www.philly2philly.com/politics_community/the_omelette/2011/6/7/47244/anthony_weiners_ultimate_twitter_fail_cliff_lee_leads

Also Transcript from his conference...

"Last Friday night, I tweeted a photograph of myself that I intended to send as a direct message as part of a joke to a woman in Seattle. Once I realized I had posted it to Twitter, I panicked. I took it down and said that I had been hacked. I then continued with that story -- to stick to that story, which was a hugely regrettable mistake. This woman was unwittingly dragged into this and bears absolutely no responsibility. I am so sorry to have disrupted her life in this way"

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/full_transcript_of_weiner_news_conference_JxlqpgCFcbffrWKKcwsyLL#ixzz1OtbKIRaZ
"

Lordy but googling about that guy is tough now. Too much to wade through...
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 02:02 PM
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20. And?? He intended to send a DM and did what many people have
done on twitter, pushed the wrong button. Then he demonstrated his intention NOT to make it public as you wrongly claimed, by immediately deleting it.

The creepy part of that story is that ONE person, apparently so obsessed with Weiner that he was glued to his twitter acct 24/7 (now, that's obsession that requires treatment) saw it in the few seconds it was up and clearly not meant for his sleazy, spying eyes.

That sick individual has been identified. His mugshot is on the Smoking Gun. He is part of the operation fronted be that other creepy sleazebag, Breitbart, also obsessed with Weiner and any other Democrat who has the gall to get themselves elected. Because according to him, there should not be a single Democrat left in this country and he is on a mission to make their aren't. He thanks you for your assistance with that campaign.

So, as I asked, where is the proof that he was 'publicly' doing this?

Imagine sitting in front of your computer screen all day and night staring at one twitter acct.?? I hope that man gets some help. From his record on the Smoking Gun he needed it long ago.

As for Weiner, I'm not sure he may not have a cause of action against these sick, perverted thugs who spent months harassing him and the women, spying on him, prying into his personal life etc.

I KNOW who the bad guys are in this latest assault by Breitbart on an 'evil liberal'. He's being sued by two of his previous targets already and was concerned that Weiner might have a case also, basically attempted to blackmail him by claiming he would hold the penis pic as he did not want anymore 'legal messes'. Now that the pic is out, Weiner has nothing to lose by suing them and I hope he does.
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 12:40 PM
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8. You are getting confused.
When you send your dick over the internet that is public. I think you are confused with his lies that he now has said were lies.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 02:13 PM
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23. No you are confused.
The lie he confessed to regarding that photo was that the woman did receive it. Previously he and she had agreed to say that she did not. He deleted it immediately when he realized it had gone public.

All other communications were done by DM, like the PM message system here. Can you see my PMs, can I see yours? Unless I mistakenly posted to someone in the forum a message I intended for MyDU, you have no idea what is in MyDU messages. Only those I am communicating with can see and only the messages THEY are receiving. They cannot see other messages. Same goes for twitter's DM system.
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 02:49 PM
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28. Then how did the dick picture get public?
Edited on Fri Jun-10-11 02:50 PM by former9thward
Even Weiner does not say it was "hacked".
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 04:09 PM
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39. I think one of the women sent it to Breitbart.
Not sure if he paid them, or if they were a plant. The Smoking Gun has been digging more into the months long campaign against him by Breitbart, and have even found evidence that an aide to Daryl Issa was being updated on what they were trying to do, complete with emails.

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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 12:41 PM
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9. when he posted them to a PUBLIC website?
Edited on Fri Jun-10-11 12:43 PM by frylock
is this a PRIVATE conversation that we're engaging in now? are others here reading your post "creepy, peeping toms?"
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 02:06 PM
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21. He did NOT post them to a public forum.
He DM'd them. See my post above, apparently people are very confused as to how the underwear pic, the only one that briefly made it outside the private message system, before being deleted seconds later. All other photos and text were DM'd NOT in a public forum like this.

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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 02:37 PM
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26. whether he DM'd them, PM'd them, IM'd them, or BM'd them is inconsequential..
Edited on Fri Jun-10-11 02:49 PM by frylock
what matters is a) it made it to his twitter feed; and b) twitter is a PUBLIC forum. the one who is confused here is rep weiner. his confusion lies in how technology works. breitbart didn't intercept the photo and post it to weiner's feed.

weiner brought this shitrain on himself. the sooner his defenders catch onto this, the sooner we can move on to more important subjects. but as long as people on this board want to insist that weiner is the victim in all this, the longer it will remain a subject.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 03:07 PM
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29. What matters is that it is none of your business or mine
what legal sexual activities people choose to engage in.

Unless you agree with the god-fearing fundies on the right that all this 'evil, sinful activity inspired by the devil tempting weak human beings to engage in the sin of sex' should be made illegal.

It is a tempest in a teapot, being driven in the media by the now very powerful Andrew Breitbart. Power given to him by the media and any Democrat who calls for Weiner to resign, as they did with his last several targets, Van Jones, Shirley Sherrod, Juan Carlos Vera, ACORN et al.

Breitbart cracks the whip, and Democrats jump. It's pathetic to watch frankly.

As for me, I will not have my morals controlled by the far right, loonie, fundie, religious fringes.

You are implying that anything he did was shameful in some way, or illegal. What is shameful about sex, sex talk, sexy photos?? Even if it was public? Why are you worried about what the loons on the right think. We are not uptight prudes like them, are we?

Basically you are using the same logic that if a woman goes out alone dressed in a sexy outfit and gets raped, she deserves it. That's what THEY believe.

You are allowing yourself to live by Breitbart's sexually repressed rules. I will not allow that for myself thank you.

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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 03:25 PM
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31. I agree...this juvenile,victorian attitude towards sex is ridiculous
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 04:13 PM
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41. now i'm advocating RAPE for fucks sake?!!
Edited on Fri Jun-10-11 04:17 PM by frylock
what the motherfuck are you talking about? you are in WAY over your head on this shit. i don't know how many ways and how many days i have to explain this to you; I DON'T CARE ABOUT HIS DICK PIC. i care that he lied, for days. i care that people like myself were defending this dumbass based on HIS word. sexually repressed? lets compare our porn collections to find out exactly who is repressed, shall we?
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 04:16 PM
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42. I think you should take a break.
You're way too emotional over this non-story which the public has already moved on from and the congressman's constituents have decided they want him to stay. The story is over for most sensible people, UNLESS there is something we do not know.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 04:18 PM
Response to Reply #42
43. a better solution is just to put you on ignore
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 04:20 PM
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44. but before i put you on ignore..
you can fuck off for insinuating what you did in your previous post. sorry if you feel i need to take a break because i get a little worked up over some fucking online asshole accusing me of advocating rape because the woman deserved. that shit was totally uncalled for.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 04:27 PM
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45. Now you have made yet another false allegation.
Post where I accused you of 'advocating rape'. That is a false statement so either prove it or retract it.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 12:46 PM
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11. "When Weiner tweets his erect penis, it's only from his house, *never* from his office".
Just trying to draft a campaign slogan for his re-election bid.
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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 12:47 PM
Response to Reply #11
12. Ha.... I LOLed..
Congratulations...
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 01:18 PM
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15. hee-hee - good one
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BlackHoleSon Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 01:49 PM
Response to Reply #11
18. How about this one
"No one who isn't a hothouse flower gives a flying F***!"
That would include 99% of the people who live in NYC.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 02:09 PM
Response to Reply #18
22. Thank you! The incredible childisness of grown men and women
over a photo of a penis, which I can guarantee will not disturb the sensibilities of a majority of NYers, is revealing. People are acting the way we used to act in grade school looking at photos from National Geographic. But we grew up. I guess a few got left behind.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 02:46 PM
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27. you've been following this close enough to realize it isn't the damn photo..
people are upset about. it's the lying and obfuscation. his trust is shot. he will not be able to go on the sunday morning talk shows to rail against republican policy. he's a laughingstock that NOBODY outside of his fan base will take seriously going forward. he's effectively silenced a voice of progressive ideals, and that's what people are PISSED about.

and as far as getting "left behind?" tell that to your boy weiner. he's the one forwarding pics of his crank, as well as shots of his chiseled, waxed body. but by all means, do continue to lecture us on our level of maturity.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 03:23 PM
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30. Speak for yourself. His constituents overwhelmingly still support him
Edited on Fri Jun-10-11 03:24 PM by sabrina 1
and trust him. He's been their Congressman for 14 years, so I imagine if he was untrustworthy where it matterers, they would know.

The only people who giggle about sex or naked photos, last I looked, were freepers living in their mom's basements, because they've never experienced it, and immature media hacks who clearly haven't passed the Jr. High phase.

You're pissed over nothing. He's going to be reelected by his apparently far more mature constituents, who apparently are not driven into a state of shock by a person engaging in perfectly legal cyber sex in the digital age, and who are not stuck back in the fifties with the gang on the far right who just can't seem to move into the present.

Who is lecturing? You are the one lecturing us about what we should 'judge' and how regarding the personal sexual lives of public figures. I don't do that, sorry. I judge them on their records.

But feel free to continue trying to excuse your reaction to this NON scandalous sex story that we had no business knowing about in the first place, by claiming it's about everything BUT the sex.

It's about the sex. People are ashamed of it. He was made to feel ashamed of it which is why he lied. People lie when they live in situations where normal activities are judged to be shameful.

Gays lie to stay in the military. People back in the fifties who fell in love with African Americans in public life, lied to try to hide it or risk their careers. But we're over that now, no one has to lie about such relationships. And gays, at least Democratic gays, don't have to lie about it to run for public office anymore.

So we are making progress. Sex appears to be the last taboo. This circus may help us to move forward on this also, and finally make it so that no one will ever again, like Weiner, have to feel ashamed of engaging in a perfectly normal and legal activity. And they will have the need to lie, after that happens.

Sorry, I just can't share your outrage because everything you said in your post only confirms that is IS about sex, that we are still a long way from ending that taboo as we have others. But I am hopeful looking at the polls as it seems a majority of people ARE over it.

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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 03:32 PM
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32. "No one will ... have to feel ashamed of engaging in a perfectly normal and legal activity".
Edited on Fri Jun-10-11 03:32 PM by Nye Bevan
Just like whites can now marry blacks, and gays can run for public office, men should be able to tweet pictures of their erect penises to random women *without* feeling ashamed of engaging in this "perfectly normal activity". Fifty years from now, people will look back in amazement at the fuss so many people made about a congressman tweeting a picture of his erect penis. There should be NO shame and NO embarrassment involved in tweeting an erect penis!!!!!!!

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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 04:02 PM
Response to Reply #32
35. Yes, we will look back at this and wonder what was wrong with
people. Gays eg, were, and on the right still are, told they too were 'mentally ill' for engaging in sex.

It's amazing how things change when people finally find their sense of reason.

We are being led by the right's ideology instead of fighting it. It was only when people began to fight them on gays and minorities, that those egregious prejudices were finally exposed for what they were. But Democrats don't appear to be ready for this fight yet. Maybe some day soon after it happens a few more times?
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 04:00 PM
Response to Reply #30
34. jesus fucking christ i'm done arguing with you..
Edited on Fri Jun-10-11 04:06 PM by frylock
i've explained to you it isn't necessarily about the pic, but about the lack of judgment and the CYA that followed. but you go right ahead tilting windmills and focusing on your conspiracy theories. evidently you don't have a trust issue with known liars. and, no, i don't give two shits what it was he lied about. the fact is he did LIE, repeatedly, for a fucking week. but lets see how many invites weinerboy gets to talk policy on the teevee machine now.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 04:03 PM
Response to Reply #34
36. 'weinerboy'
And it's not about sex! Okay, if you say so.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 04:07 PM
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37. oh you win!!1
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 03:37 PM
Response to Reply #27
33. Everyone has a right to lie about their personal lives, even politicians
They don't have a right to lie about illegal activites or matters involving public business.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 04:09 PM
Response to Reply #33
38. it became PUBLIC the second weiner posted it to a PUBLIC website..
nobody hacked weiner's account.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 04:12 PM
Response to Reply #38
40. You keep repeating that false statement.
For those who are interested in facts, he did not post it on a public forum. And I have already explained to you what happened, so either you did not read the facts, or don't want to know them. But I will continue to correct false information whenever I see it.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 03:14 AM
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46. It has nothing to do with identifying and funding public goods, which is the government's job n/t
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