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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 02:39 PM
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Buchanan: Evangelicals Would Support "Romney, Who's A Mormon" Over "Barack Hussein Obama
Buchanan: Evangelicals Would Support "Romney, Who's A Mormon" Over "Barack Hussein Obama, Who's An African American Of The Left"

From the June 5 edition of The McLaughlin Group:

MCLAUGHLIN: Question: Will their Mormon faith prevent Romney and Huntsman from winning the presidency? I ask you, Pat.

BUCHANAN: My answer to that is no. If Romney wins New Hampshire, John, and he goes into Michigan and goes into Nevada and does well, he'll have a fighting shot, I think, at winning the nomination. The concentration of opposition to Mormons is among evangelical and fundamentalist Christians who are heavily concentrated in the South in the Bible belt. It is an impediment, and was an impediment four years ago, to Romney in terms of winning the Republican nomination. But if he gets that nomination, and then you've got a race between Mitt Romney, who is a Mormon, and Barack Hussein Obama, who is an African American of the left, evangelicals and fundamentalist, I think, in the South will go strongly for Romney.

video:

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201106050006
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MinneapolisMatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 02:41 PM
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1. Ummm....
My parents are evangelical republicans. They will NOT vote for Romney because they think Mormonism is a cult. They'd rather sit out the election than vote for Romney.

They are not alone.

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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 02:50 PM
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6. That's my experience as well. . .
The evangelicals I know would rather have "clean hands" and vote for neither than sully themselves by voting for a Mormon. From their comments, I gather they'd rather "let God sort it out."
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 02:55 PM
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8. I know Evangelical Christians who would agree with you that Mormonism is a cult ...
and would never vote for a Mormon.

Main stream Christians might but I am not a church going Christian so I can't speak with any authority on that point.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 03:28 PM
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11. I know this from experience & that is exactly true.
Perhaps millions of right wing evangelicals will not vote for Romney because he is a Mormon and they consider Mormonism to be a cult that is masquerading as Christian. It does not mean they would vote for Obama, they just wouldn't vote for Romney.

The point is that Republicans need every one of those votes they can get.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 03:36 PM
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12. This will work out well
The election will turn on which disappointed and disaffected group is larger; evangelicals having to vote for a cultist, or liberals having to vote for a corporatist.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 03:40 PM
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13. the other question would be
what if there is a 3rd party candidate who is a Christian? Like, er, a Pat Buchanan type runs as an induhpendent?

But Romney might be able to win them over by putting a Palin-type on the ticket. A Romney-Huckabee ticket, for example, might win many of those fundies back, as well as playing well in the South.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 05:23 PM
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24. No, it wouldn't. Not for those who truly would not vote for him because he is a Mormon.
They believe they would have to answer to God for that choice, so it wouldn't happen.
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Eagle Mall Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 02:44 PM
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2. but would they be fired up and ready to go, Pat? I seriously doubt it.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 02:46 PM
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3. Pat Buchanan is a
fucking racist - a despicable human being.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 02:49 PM
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5. He's also clueless about the electorate
Or he would have won at least one GOP nomination by now. Catholics like him don't feel nearly as threatened by the LDS missionaries as fundie preachers do. Those fundies don't want to give the Mormon missionaries poaching at their flocks even one more 'talking point' about famous Americans who are in that goofy church.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 03:47 PM
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14. Amazes me he can get any gig on TV
It is not like he hides his racism.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 02:48 PM
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4. Pretty sure Obama wasn't going to snag the fundie vote anyway.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 02:52 PM
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7. Fundies will go against their own interests in the name of purity
Really, they'd rather see 'the devil they know' rather than the one they don't know, if it comes to that. All they have to do is vote for some third-party religious nut that will surely arise if Romney looks even close to getting the GOP nomination.

It would be the ultimate divide and conquer strategy. We should consider our own Operation Chaos, and re-register as Rethugs in order to get Romney as the GOP nominee.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 03:10 PM
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9. Buchanan the dinosaur speaks ... n/t
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 03:13 PM
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10. Right Wing Evangelicals already follow Ayn Rand's teachings over the teachings of Jesus Christ.
So, I'm sure he's right. They don't care much for the Bible's actual teachings. They'd rather get their full on hate fixes ala Ayn Rand.
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The Unawriter Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 12:55 AM
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33. They're "C Street" Christians
Their Jesus has a huge dong and carries an Uzi at all times.
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 03:47 PM
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15. Actually, he gives the point away--it's NOT about religion
"Barack Hussein Obama, who is an African American"--it's about racism.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 04:40 PM
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20. indeed n/t
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 03:50 PM
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16. Funny how Mormons are nearly all Republican, but Republicans
(the true breed evangelical, WASPy type) want NOTHING to do with them.
Yet the Mormons continue to hang in there hoping they will be treated like humans some day.
Just like that odd creature the log-cabin republican
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 03:57 PM
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17. buchanan is now a spokesperson for the evangelical world?
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 03:58 PM
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18. It good that they don't pretend to hide it anymore. n/t
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 04:25 PM
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19. Code easily translates as:
"The people I know will vote for one-of-us, country-club member, white massa' and not for scary, n-word field hand with Ay-rab name."
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dynasaw Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 04:57 PM
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21. Another way of saying
anyone but a Black man. This doesn't have anything to do with religion. Most of the fundies actually know very little even about what they profess to believe in.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 05:00 PM
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22. Not bashing Mormonism but if Evangelicals actually knew some of the details of that religion..
I suspect they would be freaked out.
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 06:55 PM
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30. Most evangelicals know about Mormonism (although it's through a twisted cultish view of their own)
It's very common for evangelicals to preach against Mormonism, they have been told adnausium about the LDS church from their own cult (yes I believe evangelical churches are cults, especially mega churches) and nearly always the information they get is wrong.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 07:25 PM
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32. I dont think many know all the bizarre details like the ones listed here..
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 05:15 PM
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23. "Hussein" has appeared like Punxsutawney Phil and signals
17 months of UGLY before the next presidential election.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 05:33 PM
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25. He is so very wrong. They would not cast votes at all, most of
them. Pat is a Catholic. The Evangelicals he is speaking of think of the RCC as they do the LDS. The Pope is always in the running for Possible Antichrist, ask Michelle Bachmann. Pat has no idea what he is talking about. None. He's a worn out bigoted old jerk and also talking out of his ass.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 05:35 PM
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26. Yeah sure Pat, they will vote for WILLARD Romney
over Barack Hussein Obama :sarcasm: you dumb ass. I imagine they will sit it out like many did in 2008 because McCain/Palin was too old and stupid and Obama was too black, duh.
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Indykatie Donating Member (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 05:47 PM
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28. Why Does it Even Matter?
These White Southern evangelicals were not ever going to vote for Obama regardless of who the republican candidate was. Many of the non-religious Southern Whites will also never vote for him. Obama's strategy for winning in 2012 doesn't assume he is going to win these Southern States nor does it need to.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 05:47 PM
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27. As noted,
the Fundi-ites" will not vote for Barack Obama (black/Muslim), nor for Willard Romney (cultist). The fact is that there is a three-way split taking place in the republican party. The "old money" -- which is relatively pro-Romney, and can control foreign affairs through the OVP -- is the most powerful group in terms of money and deep influence. The Tea Party, which despises Romney, is the most vocal and energetic faction within the party. Though the "old money" financed much of it's rise, they no longer has enough control over it. There is a growing fault line developing between these groups.

The third section is the religious right. They have come to recognize that the "old money" played them. No serious attempts to outlaw abortion came from the O.M.; they simply don't want more non-white and/or poor people around. They exploited the religious right. Now, the religious right is looking to convince the Tea Party that they have more in common, and to warn the TP that OM is playing them, too. The RR has the potential to be a threat, on the state level, to women's rights/birth control. (They already, of course, produce the rifle corps that shoot abortion providers.)

The RR and TP could very well run a 3rd party candidate, if Mitt is the OM candidate.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 06:27 PM
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29. That old Nazi is still giving interviews?
...who knew! :shrug:
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 07:11 PM
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31. Someone should ask him " what do you think the H in Jesus H Christ stands for" nt
Edited on Sun Jun-05-11 07:14 PM by Snotcicles
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