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SoDesuKa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 02:12 AM
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"Yes We Can" Version 2.0
In 2008 I thought "Yes We Can" meant some kind of restoration of righteousness, y'know, like Yes, We Can. I don't know what it means today. Maybe Team Obama is coming out with an update.

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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 02:30 AM
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1. ....
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Serve The Servants Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 03:14 AM
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2. My favorite one
Was the whole "We are the ones we've been waiting for". Little did I realize how disappointing I was.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 07:14 AM
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5. You and many others. n/t
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 07:26 AM
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7. Serves you right
Edited on Sun Jun-05-11 07:27 AM by SpiralHawk
"Be yourself. Everyone else is already taken." - Oscar Wilde
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 03:23 AM
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15. I'm still waiting
:argh:
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 07:00 AM
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3. If you use a different version, your results can be unpredictable.
Edited on Sun Jun-05-11 07:01 AM by HysteryDiagnosis
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 07:13 AM
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4. "Yes We Can"
Furiously type criticisms at our keyboards!!!

:shrug:










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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 07:23 AM
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6. If you took off your glum colored glasses
Edited on Sun Jun-05-11 07:25 AM by lunatica
You might see that this country is actually starting to rise up against the solidly entrenched plutocracy. What took the Republicans 30 years of hard work isn't going to be undone by us in two or maybe even four or eight years. Not when they've consolidated their power through ownership of the media and industrial monopolies while at the same time undercutting the social programs put in place by FDR. Do you think all those Republican Governors going after abortion rights and union rights at the same time within weeks of being elected is a fluke? Maybe when you find yourself giving up because Obama hasn't done enough you should take a look at what Wisconsin is doing and see that indeed we are who we're waiting for.
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SoDesuKa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 11:36 AM
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8. He Gives a Fine Speech
Yes He Can
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 11:50 AM
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10. On the current trajectory, given an equal 30 years (eight of which were under a nearly identical
ideology) we'll be worse off than the day Bush left office.

It isn't about speed but heading.

Given 30 years Obama would not reverse Reagan because he embraces too damn much of his philosophy and is probably worse than the evil old fucker on Civil Liberties.

Speed is not the complaint. Look at the economic and foreign policy appointments. Look at Salazar at Interior. Duncan at Education. Or even fucking Vilsack and tell me that we have "changed course".

Give Obama a few decades and the shitpile will be taller, just not as sky high as the new school Birchers would make it if given the chance.

Obama may be preferable to the best TeaPubliKlan but pretending he stands for a different heading for our ship of state, given enough time is pretty much crazy talk. He and many of the party leadership are pretty much Reagan Democrats or even Reagan Republicans.

Same direction but with a bit less throttle and more kindly rhetoric, is all he is.
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SoDesuKa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 01:17 PM
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11. Howard Dean's Warning
People expect the president to do something about a wide variety of issues; otherwise they'll vote for somebody else. Obama has to pick up the pace. Why hasn't he closed Guantanamo? Why did he escalate the war in Afghanistan? Why is Eric Holder acting like John Ashcroft?

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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 11:46 AM
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9. Yes we can....produce more catchy but empty slogans to get your vote.
“Now, the man on the stand he wants my vote,
He's a-runnin' for office on the ballot note.
He's out there preachin' in front of the steeple,
Tellin' me he loves all kinds-a people.
(He's eatin' bagels
He's eatin' pizza
He's eatin' chitlins
He's eatin' bullshit!)”


Bob Dylan
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SoDesuKa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 04:02 PM
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12. Predicting a Laugher
Ronald Reagan was given no chance of being elected president. The idea of an actor becoming governor of California was laughable enough, but that was certainly as far as he would go.

Bob Strauss, head of the Democratic National Committee, warned his fellow Democrats not to laugh at Ronald Reagan. "He's no joke," said Strauss. "He could actually win."

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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 04:09 PM
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13. It worked for the economy: "Can you give me fries with that?"
"Yes, We Can."
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SoDesuKa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 02:39 AM
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14. Alienating the Base
There's no real penalty for incumbents who alienate the base of their party, in fact they bring the whole party down with them when they lose in the general election. There are lots of examples of incumbents who used their built-in advantage to get an undeserved re-nomination.

Blanche Lincoln had no chance of being re-elected to the Senate in Arkansas but lacked the good grace to withdraw from the race even though Democrats pleaded with her. In November, she was clobbered by the Republican.



Thanks for nothing, Blanche. It's people like you we don't need.


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