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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-11 11:47 PM
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"Poked out eye" (A teacher's view on childhood hunger)
Edited on Sun Jun-05-11 12:05 AM by Snoutport
Many of us have been poor at one time or other. Lean college days when you survive on Top Ramen and peanut butter, or a time where expenses have gone crazy and you have to cut back on all the extras. My mother spent several years in a convent orphanage in Denver during the depression and she was hungry many of those years. I think because of this she always made sure the the pantry was full. She always had a huge garden that absorbed much of her free time. She canned what she could. She made her own pickles and jelly. (mmmmmmmm....I hated picking strawberries but damn that jelly was good!)

I think my mother's experience taught me to be very conscious of people who are going hungry. But the is a special hell for children who are living in abject poverty. As a teacher we sometimes come across a child whose family cannot afford enough food and we all know the signs: trembling hands, sharp cheekbones, dark hollows under their haunted eyes. I would bet you every teacher on DU will back me up when I say this: the faces and voices of the children you have taught blend together eventually. Sometimes you can only remember 6 or 7 of the kids from a school year. But you never, ever forget those eyes--so old and wizened. They burn themselves into your memory and from then on you work hard to make sure you have food and extras for kids like that. Anything to keep from seeing eyes like that again.

My very first classroom was in a very poor area of California. I was working as a substitute and had NO background in teaching. The school district was so desperate that all you needed was a bachelor's degree to be a sub. I did a good job and ended up as the favored sub for most of the behavior and special ed classes. I draw and clown and would distract the kids so much that they didn't realize they were getting their work done and WEREN'T getting into trouble. That January the Sub Director called me and said, "We have a special ed class that needs a teacher and we'd like you to take it."

I was dead broke and had subbed in the class and I thought I could handle it. I jumped in and it was a total blast. The kids were great, my EA was very talented and was so happy to have a good teacher that she spoiled me with cupcakes and treats. She was my first teacher in my long trek to becoming a proper teacher myself. One thing she said to me is one of the backbones of my theory of teaching. For every birthday she supplied a party for the kid. She told me many of these kids were so poor that if they didn't get a cake at school they probably wouldn't get a cake at all. She taught me that there were kids who weren't treated special at home so part of a teacher's job was to make sure every kid had at least one special day (and one BIG party to celebrate all the summer birthdays so even those kids got a special day--June baby here so I totally understood that one!)

The year before I started teaching I had taken my hard earned savings and spent ten months backpacking through Europe and Asia. I had collected money and stamps and had some fun items I had brought back from exotic places. I had made it as far South as Abu Simbel, as far East as Moscow and as far west as Spain. So I made up a geography program where I would tell a story about a place, show the students the money, pictures, some books from the library and then they would fill out a worksheet and get a stamp in their "passport". Every day the same thing would happen. After we had read about the country, Willy, one of my students, would raise his hand with his eyes just beaming with intensity and his body wiggling with excitement. He was a skinny blonde kid with a sunburned nose and hair bleached almost white from the sun. Really likeable with a big smile. I called on him and he whispered:

"What do they eat there?"

Egypt, Russia, Turkey. "What do they eat there?" Greece, Britain, Sweden..."What do they eat there?" Belgium, Finland, Italy. Always that same waving hand. "What do they eat there?" And once that question was answered, he wanted details. "What does weinerschnitzel taste like?" "What is it made of?" "How many did you eat?" And the whole time staring at me with these bright blue eyes that were just fixated like a laser. And those eyes looked WAY too old to be in a 4th graders face. I saw my EA was always giving him peanut butter sandwiches from a jar she kept behind her desk. So I started looking in the bagged lunches he brought from home. One day it was tortilla. Just a tortilla. One day it was an orange. One day it was half a bag of marshmallows.

Oh my God. This kid was starving. And you could see it in his eyes.

Every time I went grocery shopping I would think of him. It took me years to stop feeling guilty about eating a steak or some fancy dinner. I still think of him when I see marshmallows. We kept him fed at school but the next year I was heading to get a masters degree and a license in special ed. I know my EA kept him fed the next year but then he was off to middle school and hopefully better times for him and his family. (and, yes, in all these cases I did home visits and made all the necessary calls and reports)

After going back to school I started teaching in the poorest part of the city. Those haunted eyes were everywhere. One boy would have a stuffed lunch bag the first week of the month. Mostly Hostess Pies, Hostess Cupcakes, Sno-balls...five or six packages a day. I finally asked him about it and he told me his mom went shopping with their foodstamps. They lasted for a week and then they would run out. He was skin and bones to start with and every month his skin seemed a little more translucent, his arms a little smaller. The EA in this room was a nice grandma who brought in peanut butter and bread the first day of school. She already knew the kids and knew they were going to be hungry after a long summer.

My mom went to Vietnam that year and brought back gifts for all of my kids. I stopped at an Asian market and bought a bunch of weird looking Asian packaged foods. I told them I had something extra creepy to eat and whoever wanted some could raise their hand but I wouldn't tell them what it was until after everyone had tried a bite. So they all raise their hand and they all start gnawing on their piece of dried squid. I told them what it was and the reactions were a mix of screaming with horror and some shoulder shrugs as they finished up their squid.

After class that day one of my students stayed back and lingered at my desk. I looked up at Janella. A thin black girl who I keep expecting to see on America's Next Top Model was standing in front of me. I knew the look the second I saw it and my stomach dropped to the floor. I knew she was about to tell me something terrible.

"That squid sure was good. If there is any left I'd eat it." That squid was NOT good but here this kid was looking at me with the same look Tiny Tim probably had when he saw that cooked goose. It makes you sick when you see it because no kid should ever have that look. And I gave her the bag of squid and she carefully tucked it into her backpack. She told me thank you and said she was going to share it with her little sister.

I grabbed her backpack and ran to the back of the room. I threw in the peanut butter and the bread, the crackers, some canned stuff that was going to be our cooking class. My lunch when in (I hadn't got a chance to eat, as usual) and my granola bars and even my gum.

She looked like it was Christmas. It would break your heart to see it.

She told me after the weekend that she and her sister had eaten and eaten and eaten and she lo-o-o-oved that squid. Ends up her dad was gone, her mom was in jail and her 25 year old uncle was raising her and her sister and working two jobs to try and keep the family together. When her birthday came up she said her cousin was coming over for a party. I asked her what they were eating and she said the were going to have a mayonaisse sandwich. No cake, no ice cream but she was SO excited her cousin would be there for her party. On her birthday I dug out my parking meter money (new teacher, big student loans=pretty danged poor) and my mad money (a tightly folded $20 bill hidden behind my drivers license) and I bought her a really big cake so there would be plenty left over for her birthday party. I got extra chips and sodas and after school I dropped it off at her Uncle's tiny duplex. The three girls were there alone. Her Uncle wouldn't be home till after work--after midnight. I handed her the bags of food and headed home. I cried a good part of that drive. Little kids should not be so excited to see foods. Not in the richest country in the world.

But of all the poverty I have seen--in Cuba and Thailand and on some very small islands of South East Asia it is Egypt that leaves me with the emotional scar that has never seemed to completely heal. I was travelling through a tiny village and came up to an intersection. It was a small car with just a tour guide who had agreed to take me to see some out-of-the way archaeological sites. As we're about to pull away a little boy of 6 or 7 and his little sister ran up to the car. They were bone thin and the girl looked desperate. The boy turned towards me I could only see one side of his face. But the look was there. The cheekbones so gaunt. And then he turned the rest of the way and I saw his whole face. His right eye was missing. Just a dark bloody hole with flies buzzing around. Gore you would expect in a Wes Craven film. And I gasped and reached for my money and the tour guide grabbed my wrist with a fierce grip to stop me. He squeezed hard enough to send jolts of pain up my arm. He shouted, "NO!"

And he stomped on the gas and we pulled past the kid's house. It was next to a canal with a dead rotting water buffalo swollen and bloated in the water. Swarms of flies buzzed around. 20 feet away there were more kids splashing and playing in the water.

My tour guide turned and said he was sorry and I realized he was very upset.

"Poked out eye." He said in his broken English. "His parents poked out his eye so he would make more money begging from tourists. You cannot pay them or it will happen to the other children too."

His words filled me with horror and him with terrible sadness. We rode back into Luxor in silence. Great temples and statues from Egypt's golden era slid by my window with no comments from me or my guide. Neither of us cared to speak.

There is great poverty in this world and though no one person can end that, we can all do something to help. There are children in your neighborhood going hungry tonight. Start a food drive at your work or a business you think would host a drive. Plant a couple of extra zucchini plants and tomatoes and take the extras to your town's homeless teen shelter. (that's what I'm doing this summer--I'm hoping to deliver a box of produce a week). Make a donation to a food bank or a charity--there are many of them out there.

I invite you to step up and write your senators. Write the President. Ask them to figure out ways to help the hungry. Most of all, I ask you to share a can or two of food with someone who doesn't have any.

Have a great weekend. Do something great with it.
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IGoToDU Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 12:09 AM
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1. oh oh OMG
:cry:
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 12:32 AM
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8. ...
Sorry if I made you cry.... can I still welcome you to DU?
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 12:11 AM
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2. Your post was so intense I had to close it, then come back to read it
thank you for this great post
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 12:20 AM
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4. Over the summer a lot of kids go hungry :0(
Some kids only get to eat their free school food and, let's face it, that isn't always the best of foods.

I'm going to make a flier for all my neighbors, even the ones I don't know, and let them know that every Friday I will be taking produce to the teen homeless shelter. (Not that I am such a great guy...but I am just a few blocks from the shelter on Fridays). I'm thinking my garden will only produce so much for them BUT, maybe I'll have five zucchini, a and a couple neighbors might toss in five more, and some garlic and onions, etc. etc. until, who knows, Maybe I'll have a couple of boxes for them.

I like to be optimistic!
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 01:00 AM
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10. thanks for caring
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 01:04 AM
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11. easy to care
It's getting my butt moving to help make changes that is the hard part!
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kas125 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 10:48 AM
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18. I worked at an elementary school for ten years and yep, we all
have stories about kids who don't have food. Or something else that they need. It's truly heartbreaking and sometimes haunting. We had a first grader whose mom worked at a Dunkin Donuts and that's what he brought for lunch every day - donuts. It became my thing to get that little boy some decent food every day whether I had to buy it, bring it from home, or convince the cafeteria people to give it to him. It's gotten so bad here, that the elementary schools have been open and serving free lunch to anyone who is a student in the district for the past two summers.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 11:10 AM
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19. !!! They have a summer food program?? THAT IS AWESOME!
I have never heard of anyone doing that. You should write a post about it so more people learn that that might be an option to feed kids!
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kas125 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 01:12 PM
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24. They started it after I stopped working for the schools, but now
I'm curious. The first year, I kept seeing it on the sign in front of the school near me, "come in for free lunch 11-1" and I had no idea who it was for, but it was up every day when I was walking the dogs or driving by. Later I read in the newspaper that it was a summer lunch program at all the elementary schools for any kid in the distruct, not just the little ones. The sign was there again this summer. I'm going to try to find out how it's funded and whatever else I can about it.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 03:07 PM
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31. Please share what you find! :0) nt
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kas125 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 01:16 PM
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25. Okay, you need to look into this for your kids! I found an article -
Edited on Sun Jun-05-11 01:25 PM by kas125
http://munster-me.zebramm.com/articles/198350319?paging=off It's a Dept. of Agriculture program and towns all over here are doing it. Here's the link to the website - http://www.summerfood.usda.gov/ And it doesn't only serve students, but anyone 18 and under.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 03:13 PM
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32. Ah, most excellent! thank you!
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kas125 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 08:55 PM
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44. Oh, you are so very welcome. I just hope it's the right program
to help your kids!
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 12:21 AM
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75. sending pm
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 02:23 PM
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30. Here in Lawrence, Kansas, we have a program whereby ANY child who wants a free lunch
Edited on Sun Jun-05-11 02:25 PM by tblue37
can have one, as long as he/she eats it on site. They don't check to make sure the kid is too poor to buy food, they just feed any kid who comes to eat--
Susan Krumm, an agent for K-State Research and Extension-Douglas County, gave an outline of the program in her weekly Journal-World column on May 19. Any youngster between the ages of 1 and 18 can get a free meal at one of five sites around Lawrence: Central Junior High School, East Lawrence Recreation Center, Broken Arrow Park, Edgewood Homes or South Park Recreation Center. A full schedule of which meals are offered and on what days is available at www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/may/19/summer-food-program-offers-free-meals-area-youths.

Youngsters don’t have to qualify for free or reduced-price lunches at school or meet any other requirements. If they show up, they can get a meal. The only rule is that they must consume the meal on site, not pick it up and eat it elsewhere <emphasis added> .

Although anyone is welcome, the main focus of the program is to make sure that children who get free meals during the school year don’t go hungry during the summer. Family incomes don’t increase when school is out to help buy more food. The Lawrence district had more than 3,400 students who qualified for free or reduced-price lunches this year.

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/jun/03/free-lunch/
Kansas has a statewide free lunch program for summer, but I don't know whether the rest of the state follows the policy of allowing any kid to have the food. I hope they do.

Unfortunately, Kansas ranks 49th out of 50 in terms of the number of kids who qualify for free summer food who actually access the program! I am guessing that some of them don't have a way of getting to the limited number of sites where the food is amde available. But one reader left an awful comment on the article I quoted above (found at the bottom of the same page the article is on), saying:
I noticed this information in many different forums today. Not one had an explanation as to why the program is not used. There was kind of a suggestion that more publicity is required. Is that the answer? Do we know the answer? Could it be as simple as a preference for burgers over the wholesome food the program provides? Since our definition of poor does not in general include as income programs such as this could our poor be not as poor as we think?





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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 05:18 PM
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34. I wonder if this is the same program as the post above.
Makes me really happy to know this is going on!
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 10:52 PM
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53. I often see the book title...
"What's Wrong With Kansas" thrown around. Well, here is something that is TOTALLY right.
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Newest Reality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 12:19 AM
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3. What really saddens me most
is that your story tells us all something about ourselves, our lifestyles and the great capacity we have to insulate ourselves from the truth you tell.

Yet, the truth is, we are living in a world where profit is the only, true god. The people and their lives hardly matter in that case, expect in the sense that they might revolt or present a threat to the current system.

You see, there is not profit in helping or saving those children at all. They are collateral damage in an economic, class war, just like the countless other children in other countries where we are inflicting so much suffering and damage. This all hits you square in the face when it comes to your own values, (taught to you so that you would respect and support the system, not for the sake of altruism) and how they contrast to the bigger picture where bankers and politicians and those who control others by taking their wealth and power and using it against them prevail.

I have come to the point where I see no end to this. That is, unless we can dethrone the current Powers That Be and agree to collectively dethrone the system that supports pyramid-like structures across the spectrum from religion to politics and so forth. We do no NEED leaders at all, anymore. They are, in the end, titular heads with their own values and needs and priorities, be they self-protection or world conquest. We are self-states and, when we are ready, that could be the future of politics, as odd and complex as such an anarchistic presentation might sound. While many equate chaos with anarchism, chaos is merely the precedent to the state of anarchism. We are, as many open-minded and well informed people might agree, in quite a state of chaos when we compare our current state to what preceded this point.

We cannot solve the problem of our starving children in any meaningful and practical way until we solve the problem that is in our face and that cannot be ignored. We are looking into the abyss of corporate monoculture as it overtakes all cultures and civilizations like no other conqueror before it. Yet, that might sound odd or like something on the fringe to you. Why? Well, that is, because your current conqueror is really something akin to a Trojan Hoarse unparalleled. You pulled it into your life and accepted that stranger and let it tell your kids what they should want, didn't you? There it is, barking what reality is, what news is important and how you should live your life if you really want to be happy. Are you still listening and letting it tell your beloved children what is true, real and necessary and valuable in life?

There you go. Do what you will. Do it with love. This could have a good outcome if we can all truly understanding what is happening to us and why. That is the courage that denial will not bring. If we all can do that, we will certainly be able to come to an honorable consensus of the reality that is to come at the bifurcation point where are current chaos becomes a new order that is not anything like the New World Order.

Find out. Know, Choose and decide ... while you still can. This is your time to do what you can or do what they tell you to. That's a choice.

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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 12:24 AM
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7. You have your anarchy, I will make the soup for when you get home hungry
Thank you for your well thought out post. I agree, the system is failing the people badly.

When you work with kids you see just how badly, sometimes.

Put a march together, I'll make some signs. I'm ready to stand up.
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Newest Reality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 12:36 AM
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9. Thank you,
kind soldier to the common cause!

I do not speak of this from above, but from well below. I know it from experience.

March! Make signs. Let's make a hearty soup for all to share as we STAND UP!

NO MORE! Let that sentiment resound for all to hear.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 12:23 AM
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5. K&R
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 12:24 AM
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6. Recommended.
Well done. Bookmarked.

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KitSileya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 04:42 AM
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12. Thank you for sharing that.
For most Europeans it is incomprehensible that there are starving people, starving children in the US. I doubt it even crosses anyone's mind here in Norway that it is possible to have parents working full-time and yet not earn enough to buy enough food - in America. It just doesn't mesh with the picture most have of the US. I remember that first episode of the second season of the West Wing where Josh is remembering the moment he decided to work for Bartlett - when Bartlett admits that he screwed over milk farmers and goes on a rant about childhood poverty in the US. It opened the eyes of many, but it hasn't gotten any better in the many years since.

Thank you for helping. Mother Teresa wisely said that if you cannot feed a hundred, you should feed one. And that you should never worry about numbers, just help one person at a time, and start with the one nearest to you. You have done that, and as such is an example to all of us.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 10:11 AM
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15. I like what Mother Theresa said... I had never read that before
Thank you for sharing. That would have been a great title for this!
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 06:59 PM
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38. What a tale you have spun.
I could visualize your mom's garden.

I could feel your eagerness to take the job teaching and making a big difference to those kids. I could hear that seven year old asking what things tasted like.

Thank you both for doing as you did, and also for letting us know about it.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 10:57 PM
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54. "The land of plenty"...
really means "The land of plenty for a select few". Or, as George Carlin said "They call it the American dream. You have to be asleep to believe it".
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 11:53 PM
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69. I always hope for better :0(
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Glimmer of Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 06:45 AM
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13. Thank you for this. We must do more and get our priorities straight.
No one in this country should starve.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 10:27 AM
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16. especially not the children :0(
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 07:26 AM
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14. Wow, holy shit. Thank you
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 10:45 AM
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17. What makes me crazy is that this is 100% avoidable in this country
Not so easy in places like Egypt where Mubarak kept all the money for himself and his cronies. Hopefully things will improve in Egypt and elsewhere.

Thanks for writing this.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 11:40 AM
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21. It is avoidable everywhere....
but shocking when you think that the US is supposed to have so many Christians...people who follow the word of Jesus Christ who was quite the advocate for feeding your fellow man.

That adds a level of of hypocrisy to it that makes it even worse. Rich churches and starving children. How'd we end up being a civilization that followed that model?
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 10:59 PM
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56. Egypt has Mubarek and his cronies....
we have the corporate elite. Not really much difference between the two.
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prismpalette Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 11:26 AM
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20. easy to help
One of the ways we help is very easy. Carry a bag of easy, no refrigeration or cooking necessary food with you in your vehicle. We see homeless, and people down on their luck everywhere. Give them a bag. When you get home, fix another. Bottled water or tea, Pnut butter, crackers, raisins, granola bars, tuna, etc. It is easy for you but can make a difference for someone else. We also carry some small bags of dog food. Many people needing help seem to have a pet with them as their only friend and guardian.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 01:03 PM
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23. That is an excellent idea! We keep a few extra blankets in the car in the winter
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 11:41 PM
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66. I do that too
I usually put in a box of crackers, peanut butter, a jar of jelly, pouches of tuna, one or two cup of noodles and a pair or two of socks. Everyone needs clean socks.

I do give a little money to a few of the regular locals I have come to know and there are two guys with little dogs that I make sure to give them dog food every couple weeks.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 11:55 AM
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22. Wow...I lost a rec. Who the heck doesn't advocate feeding starving kids?
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 01:23 PM
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26. You regained a rec
I can't imagine that anyone here doesn't feel for hungry children. Sometimes the rec and unrec buttons look the same (seriously, I should not be allowed near a keyboard w/out my glasses)
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 01:27 PM
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27. THank you! Another one just disappeared. I think I've pissed off some of the lurkers
I don't ask anyone to recommend my posts but, jeez, unreccing threads about childhood hunger is pretty sucky.

There are some people on here who really dislike my threads though...so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 01:37 PM
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28. I'm sorry
Though it probably doesn't matter, I greatly appreciate your threads.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 05:32 PM
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35. Thank you very much!
When they are personal experiences I guess it is harder to understand unrecs or people who get mad. Every time I write that the school lunches are sub quality I get called a liar or worse.

Oh well...If you are going to put yourself out there you have to expect it. Compliments like yours make up for the bad comments. :0)
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 01:58 PM
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29. I recced...
...but I have in the past accidentally unrecced a post that I meant to rec, so it does happen sometimes.

Thanks for posting your experiences!
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 04:30 PM
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33. That's how it goes. Miss the pre-unrec DU
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 11:01 PM
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57. the world is full of shitheads...
quite a few seem to visit DU. Don't sweat it- cream always rises to the top.
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 06:07 PM
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36. Adults are going hungry, too.
I am about to take eggs, some stuff out of my freezer, and anything else I can think of to a friend who is on unemployment. She doesn't have anything in her home to eat, and no money until the 13th. I'm lending her some money, because I know she's good for it. $20 to last 7 days. I wish I could give more.

I'm on unemployment, too. Most days, I have cereal or toast, because that's what I can afford. I did splurge and have salad yesterday, because it was on sale. I felt so guilty...

The eggs I have are a gift from another friend--yard eggs from her local honey source.

Stories like yours give me hope. Our Human Spirit prevails, and we are there for each other. I wish the corporatists (and the Limbaughs, and the O'Reillys and the Malkins and the Coulters) would do the same. Things would be so much different.

BTW, I'm a teacher, too. When I actually had a contract, I made sure to have extra food in my classroom at all times. Too many of our students relied on school meals, because they got little or nothing at home. My students got so excited to 'have lunch with teacher.'

What we do to the least among us... I hope those of us who give, even when we have so little, can prevail in these dark times.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 10:19 PM
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48. Oh wow... maybe you should tell us your story?
We keep hearing about teacher layoffs but nobody has shared their experience.

My district is facing a 25% cut in funding this year if the legislature has its way. If the bill passes it is 25% this year and 25% next year. Balancing the budget by cutting teachers and education. Makes no sense.

Best wishes--I hope things get better for you and your friend.
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 10:38 AM
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79. DU
is currently my means of keeping a finger on the pulse of our species.

Of late, I've posted many more responses to threads than I did for my first few years here (as a writer, dreaming that I might get published one day, I have a vested interest in seeing how people respond to my words). As a consequence of my increased participation here, I have a clearer understanding of the relative irrelevance of party affiliation when it comes to kneeling at the altar of obscene wealth.

In the almost three years that I've been under- or unemployed, I've learned that those of us who have the least tend to give the most. And, we do so without any expectations of rewards or attempts at self-aggrandizement.

On a personal note, school administrators are being firmly directed to interview and hire TFAers. As a 55 yo with an advanced degree, I cannot even get face time to interview for a teaching position. My daily internal challenge is maintaining my joie de vivre in the face of relentless stress and anxiety over no money, no job and no hope for a job. AND, when I encounter folks on DU like the ones who've unrecced this poignant and essential OP of yours, I must cajole myself away from misanthropy.

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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 11:04 PM
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59. "What we do to the least among us"...
I am an atheist, but am heartened that you, as a christian, took this verse to heart. I wish more christians would do the same. Though I do not believe Jesus existed, the stories about him demonstrate the best things about humanity.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 11:57 PM
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71. I figure Jesus existed
But I figure he had a regular mom and dad just like the rest of us. Regardless, to follow him without following his words makes no sense to me.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 12:00 AM
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72. Like Ghandi said (loosely):
I wish more christians were Christ-like.
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 12:16 PM
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87. P.S.,
Global Satyagraha, now!
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 10:58 AM
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81. Well, now...
I am not surprised that you think me a 'christian' because I used a quasi-quote from the biblical book of Matthew. However, I cannot claim that mantle.

During the last fifteen years of my life, I've resolved most of my prejudices about organized religions. Joseph Campbell's amazing works helped tremendously, as did Barbara Walker's "The Woman's Encyclopedia of Myths and Secrets."

While I appreciate the essence of the christ myth (who wouldn't want to embody such virtues?), I know that much of what comprises that myth, and our bible du jour, was borrowed from earlier myths and legends, passed on through generations of spiritual seekers via oral traditions.

These days, I respect everyone's personal spiritual odysseys, as long as their spirituality is not used to justify murder and mayhem (in the guise of righteous wars, jihads, and/or justifications for anti-abortion terrorism or pro-death penalty mumbo jumbo). In short, I consider free will a rather precarious moral ground...

(Sadly, most 'christians' I know worship their filthy lucre more than their christ, with predictable results...)
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 12:02 PM
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85. yes, I should not have assumed...
I meant no harm in it, but wanted to point out the verse you quoted. My apologies.
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 12:15 PM
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86. Apologies noted,
Edited on Mon Jun-06-11 12:16 PM by chervilant
but not necessary.

BTW, as you might already know, many activists are coalescing efforts and energy to address the radical income inequity which threatens our species globally. I encourage you to visit here and consider a commitment to our children's future.

As ever, I remain,

Ms. Silence B. Damned
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 06:55 PM
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37. Does anyone here realize how much the NINE TRILLION bucks
Edited on Sun Jun-05-11 06:57 PM by truedelphi
That the Federal Reserve has handed over to the top one percent of all banking families would do about hunger here in America?

Or the two trillion we are spending every three or four years on War?

When we have a real leader in Washington at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, and real leaders in the Senate, and the House, and no longer have a Congress that is nothing more than a millionaire/billionaires club, then we can think about ending hunger.

As it is, most of us discussing this stuff are just one medical emergency away from being so poor that we too are sending the kid to school with that single tortilla.





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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 10:16 PM
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47. +1000
You said it, truedelphi.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 07:00 PM
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39. A very big K & R. n/t
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joanbarnes Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 07:14 PM
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40. Your story is so moving.......
I try to help, but we could all do more.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 07:51 PM
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41. Oh dear god.
If it's this intense to read it , I can't imagine the scars that living it has left on you.

Thank you for witnessing this to us.

Namaste

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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 10:44 PM
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50. These are very tough times for many families.
Teachers have those kids five days a week...and we have to see the pain they are going through. :0( Part of the job.
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larwdem Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 08:01 PM
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42. K&R
THANK YOU FOR YOUR GOOD WORK:yourock:
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 08:15 PM
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43. K & R
You're a very gifted writer; this is so vivid and real.


I like kindness on a small, manageable individual scale as well as collective action for larger change. Thinking about all the hungry people in the world, or even in one town, is overwhelming for sure, but if you can feed one child once, that's a meal that one child wouldn't otherwise have had, and you bet it matters to that child.
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 09:25 PM
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45. Anyone have info on community gardening? Your post just
motivated me to send the following email to our local food bank, and I'm wondering if anyone on DU has been
involved in community gardening efforts. It's been quite awhile since I saw some clips on that topic somewhere.

'Hi Jeremy. I live in West Manchester Township. For the past two years I have ended up throwing out pounds of
fresh vegetables when my garden has produced more than my husband and I can eat, mostly zucchini, squash,
tomatoes (I don't have a whole lot of time to garden extensively). I'd much rather take
the food to a food pantry. Does the Food Bank located near William Penn accept donations of garden produce?
If so, at what times / on what days?

If so, I hope my garden will do well this year. One recent year I was picking tomatoes in November!

Also, if the food bank does accept garden donations, is there anyway that I can help get the word out
to anyone else who might garden?

People don't have money these days (I myself can't earn a decent living at the moment....just graduated summa
cum laude with a teaching degree, ha! useless! especially at my age 55), but certainly there are a lot of yards.
I'd be willing to volunteer to maybe even try something like getting volunteers to work in gardens in OTHER
people's yards??? You know, someone, perhaps an elderly person who can't garden but has a yard, could volunteer
yard space for a garden, which volunteers would plant and maintain? Volunteers could maybe get some of the produce,
the yard owner could get some, and some to the food bank? Just trying to think out of the box here. I do have some
experience through political channels working with volunteers, so I know what that involves (follow up or nagging,
your preference, and get 10 volunteers if you need one, etc). What about connecting with gardening clubs in the
area? And I believe Hannah Penn has a vegetable garden project; what do those students who worked in it do
over the summer? Could they serve some type of leadership role by teaching other students over the summer how
to garden (preferably, organically)? I could try to get some extra help maybe by getting my political party to add
a request for volunteers in their newsletter maybe? Put Lowes and Home Depot in competition with each other to
donate plants/seeds/equipment? Did I hear somewhere awhile ago that the White House might have some helpful
information on community gardens? Has any of this been explored in York?"



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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 11:16 PM
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62. I like how you are thinking DebJ!!
Several of my neighbors have gardens so I am going to give them all a flier that I will be taking produce to the teen shelter on Fridays. I'm hoping my extra food and theirs will add up to a few days worth of veggies for some hungry teens! :0)
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 10:15 PM
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46. Summer is an especially desperate time for hungry children
Many children barely get by on the food they receive from school lunch programs. During the summer even those rations are not available.

For those interested in helping to bridge that gap in available food for kids and their families, please visit this site --
http://feedingamerica.org/how-we-fight-hunger/programs-and-services/network-programs/backpack-program.aspx
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 10:31 PM
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49. I had to log in and r this post
Your writing is astounding - you truly moved me to tears. Thank you for such a passionate and important post. It truly did move me to action. 2 things I'm doing b/c of your post.

I have extra tomato plants - I got a fantastic deal at an auction. I'm donating the extra plants to a community garden.

the second thing I'm doing - I just went to a coupon class yesterday, and I've planned my Tuesday shopping trip to a store that doubles coupons - I've got a bunch for things on sale... i was only going to get about 10 items for the sale/coupon combo - things I can store and will use... but I plan to buy extra (it works out to about .50 per item) and donate to the local food bank. I usually donate - but mostly around the holidays. You made me think about kids not having food in the summer.

Thank you again for the post - very important - very moving.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 11:07 PM
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60. Bravo Sir!!!
You made my post 100% worthwhile!! I was hoping to inspire people to help.

:0) You are now MY hero.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 10:47 PM
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51. I like to think I am a strong individual...
but I almost didn't make it to the end of your post. I know what it is to grow up hungry. Maybe we weren't as poor as some you have encountered, but we weren't much ahead of them. You are a strong person- if I had your job I would probably be an emotional wreck.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 12:00 AM
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73. I figure the social workers and the police have it worst....
but we see a lot we wish we didn't.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 12:01 AM
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74. just so you know...
I am proud to be of the same species as you.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 09:40 AM
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77. :0) I am sure you are a mighty fine mammal yourself!
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 10:51 PM
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52. You know, thinking about this post again, a whole lot of thoughts came up.
Edited on Sun Jun-05-11 10:54 PM by Withywindle
And I was thinking about the growing movement towards restricting what kids eat in school to only certain definitions of "healthy" food, and the tendency to no longer allow home-cooked foods of any kind to be shared among children, and thinking of my own experiences as a lower-middle-class kid in an area where a lot of my classmates came from serious poverty (Appalachia).

And a lot of that micromanaging around food would hurt the poorest kids the worst, in a way. I remember that when I was a kid in the 70s, birthday parties with homemade cake or cupcakes were allowed, as long as the child's family provided enough for everyone. If you're lower-middle-class, and you're making a batch of cupcakes for your kid's b-day, because of economies of scale, making 2 dozen doesn't cost that much more than making 1 dozen. So every kid in the class got to have some cake at least once in a while--which any child will tell you, is way better than never getting any at all, which is what will happen to the poorest kids whenever a no-homemade-sharing policy goes into effect.

That jar of peanut butter in the teacher's desk would be utterly prohibited by a lot of schools today. So would any gifts of food that weren't completely vetted and vouched for. So how could any teacher spontaneously feed a child who was obviously hungry, if so little eating leeway was allowed?

The story you told about the squid? Could be grounds for firing in a school district so completely obsessed with the possibility of allergies that any new-food exploration in the classroom is treated as if you'd suggested everyone lay out a line of cocaine on the desk.

I don't know what to do about this. Extreme food allergies were absolutely not common when I was a kid - I don't think I ever met anyone with a peanut allergy until I was in my late 20s! I knew a few people who might get hives if they ate, say, strawberries or crab or something like that--and some who liked those things enough to put up with the mild symptoms. I'm 42 and I still actually don't think I know anyone who will DIE if they eat a little of a certain thing. When I read about movements to restrict things kids are allowed to bring to school, I feel sad because I think that children's natural tendency to want to *share* with their friends is being seen as a danger and treated as MISBEHAVIOR.

I also wonder how much class is involved. There is a very real divide between people wealthy enough to single out only "healthy" food, and those for whom ANY source of protein and carbs is welcome because they need it and cannot be choosy. There is also a divide between people whose tastes are adapted to "upscale" food and those whose tastes are adapted to traditionally working-class food, and it gets ugly when their kids go to school together.

I don't have any answers to this, overall. I just agree that the first priority should be towards feeding hungry kids. Even peanut butter out of a jar and someone else's tuna sandwich are way the fuck better than a life where a mayonnaise sandwich is considered a birthday treat, and that is a world too many children still live in.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 11:04 PM
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58. All home made food is banned....
at my school. People assume that someone ate something homemade and got sick but now I wonder. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a lobbying attempt by store chains to make it against the rules. Instead of cheap home made cookies now families would be forced to spend twice as much for cruddy store cookies.

Sad, but it is how business works, so I wouldn't be surprised.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 11:16 PM
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63. The idea that home made food is more dangerous than mass-produced food is BIZARRE to me.
It just is. All the huge health scares we've had in recent years have come from factories and industrial farms, not from some local mom making brownies for the Girl Scout bake sale! When I was a kid, we sure never had to deal with the possibility that there might be SHIT GERMS (E.coli) in greens, FFS.

Yes, I absolutely think it's all about the profit motive and corporate buy-ins and kickbacks. I also think, sometimes, it's about bourgeois control-freakdom. (Which go hand in hand sometimes, because a lot of bourgeois control freaks think that people of ~their class~ should only eat food that is marketed directly to ~their class~, with an "organic" label that may or not have any meaning, and the recommendation of at least one overpaid "self-help" author. And there are definitely large corporate lobbies supporting their "grassroots" movement.)
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 11:24 PM
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64. Much of the food we get at school is pre-packaged
ANd usually all carbs. THe breakfast on Tuesday had 75 carbs!!
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 11:42 PM
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67. What do you mean by pre-packaged?
At my school when I was a kid, I knew all the ingredients came out of big cans, some of them government surplus. (They were all labeled in generic black and white) Canned green beans, canned peaches, canned tomatoes, canned corn, canned carrots....BUT some ingredients were actually prepared in the school kitchens, though, by a big flotilla of older ladies in hairnets. And it was Appalachia, so they made Appalachian food: biscuits with sausage gravy, grits, bacon, cheese omelets, greens with ham, okra with tomato and ramps, potatoes everywhere, fried-chicken everywhere...you get the idea.

I'm not saying it's anything like an ideal diet. But I knew a lot of my classmates got two filling meals a day at school if they were in the lunch/breakfast program, and that was it for them for the day. So yes, protein and carbs are good. If it's a choice between 75 carbs and nothing but half a bag of marshmallows? well, the choice is clear in that case. But it should never come down to that choice.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 11:55 PM
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70. At our school they keep using corn nuts as a vegetable.
the food is not very filling. we keep food in the class to make up for it.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 11:12 AM
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83. It's corporatist "regulation" that helps the PTB while screwing us.
Much of out health regulations in this country are like that, they have NOTHING to do with food safety and everything to do with helping Big Business. It's all about using government power to make us completely reliant on corporations.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 01:02 AM
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76. It's banned in my kid's school too.
I don't care. I walk in my homemade cupcakes, my homemade cakes, my homemade fruit and veggie trays, trays of cheese and summer sausage I sliced at home, walk in to the front office, sign my name, and walk down to the classroom. (Actually, I pull it all down to the classroom. I tend to bring too much and usually pack it all in my daughter's little red wagon she played with when she was small. I scrub it and lay a quilt in it, then pack in the food trays. And the serving trays all came from thrift shops.)

No one has yet to actually stop me and tell me I can't do it, except for one parent who demanded I throw it all away immediately. My response was that they could speak with the principal if they had a problem and did I forget to mention that the principal is already eating whatever I've prepared for the classroom?

I pack trays like this for every party and the kids love it. I don't have much money but we always share, especially for school parties. And I've received thank you notes while still at the party, along with hugs from kids whose parents weren't at the party. I also have a few children help me pass out food-usually the ones who couldn't afford to bring anything. (My child passes out goody bags.)

I don't care about the policy. I know what I make at home is healthier than anything from the local Walmart, where most of the snacks are from. I also know that by making cupcakes at home I'm saving lots of money, which is how I can afford to do all the other things.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 09:43 AM
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78. You Rock!
We are allowed to sell home made foods at a bake sale... so my staff and I make stuff at home, sell it at school, then use the money to buy stuff for the kids to eat. It is a roundabout way of doing things but it keeps us in compliance. :0)
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 10:41 AM
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80. We aren't allowed bake sales either
or any kind of fundraisers dealing with food. (Cookie dough, candy bars, etc.) Instead, we sell lots of other crappy things that no one wants and they don't make the money they used to make when they had the bake sales and candy bars.

I've yet to have staff complain about my food so I'll keep it up until they do.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 03:00 PM
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91. Yeah for you!
The Powers that Be are taking all the fun away, and proclaiming their ways are better to boot.

Wish there were more parents like you, willing to rock the boat. (Probably there are, but they need to find out about each other.)
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 07:18 PM
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92. My friends know I'll do what I want, whether they like it or not.
I'm not mean about it by any means. I enjoy sending treats and I enjoy helping out. The difference is that I prefer to make it all myself, knowing it's healthier and taste better.

The principals have never had a problem with me personally, knowing that I've worked on-again, off-again over the years in bakeries and still work part time with a catering company. They know I know how to clean and sanitize my kitchen. The principal said the "packaged snacks only" was decided by the school board and that they were allowed zero input.
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 12:00 PM
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84. Well, now...
I encourage you to view "Food, Inc." and to know that a great many teachers have learned how to fly under the radar in order to feed our hungry children.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 07:03 PM
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88. It won't show me ground up baby chicks or horrible stories of cow abuse?
It takes me years to get those pictures out of my head. sigh.
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 09:39 PM
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89. Gosh...
Better not watch it, then.

The youngest activist in my life is only 14--one of my art students. She insisted that I watch The Cove, and has encouraged me to follow Whale Wars. I sat on my couch and cried for two hours after I watched The Cove. I still well up when I think about it.

We humans seem to be manifesting a level of mental dis-ease that is both frightening and corrosive. Far too many of us are in react mode, driven by inchoate fears and resentments. Far too many of us are willing to pollute our spirits with negativity, eagerly engaging in name-calling and other forms of vilification. Far too many of us are willing to glorify violence or resort to violence, often just for entertainment or personal gratification.

We seldom acknowledge the import of overpopulation. However, Calhoun's research with rats suggests that when a critical level of overpopulation occurs, the outcome isn't pretty. With rats, abnormal sexual behavior, hyperaggression, eating their young, and increased mortality are a few of the problems that occurred. With humans, well...is it time to acknowledge that our species has passed a critical tipping point? CAN we blame our burgeoning population; OR...who votes for taking personal responsibility?

When I was younger (and naive) I thought our species was in its adolescence--obsessed like teenagers with sex, drugs, and all other forms of self-gratification. Now, I've come to believe that our obsessions, our greed, our overpopulation are macro-level manifestations of our species' mental dis-ease. Regardless of how much energy we might devote to denying our insanity, it is writ large in our increasingly sophisticated, increasingly corrosive socio-cultural and technological constructs--the very same constructs we use to remain in denial, and to externalize responsibility for our collective hubris. We keep doing the SAME THINGS over, and over, and over, and over...expecting--nay, HOPING--for different results.

I feel overwhelmed with disappointment about the choices we (as a collective) have been making. Our ecosystem seems to be tending inexorably back into 'balance' on a planetary scale. I suspect that it's almost time for Gaia to roll over and scrape us off her backside, and we'll just have to go along for the ride.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 02:58 PM
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90. Thank you for that post.
Edited on Tue Jun-07-11 02:58 PM by truedelphi
I remember when my son was nine - we moved into an apartment, and of course it was thoroughly cleaned before we moved in.

About six weeks later, the living room actually stunk to high heaven. We hadn't lived there long enough for me to have vacuumed while moving the couch around, but the smell got to me.

I moved the couch, and lo and behold, at least three weeks worth of rotting sandwiches were there.

My son didn't like the healthier sandwiches. If it was like peanut butter and marshmallow fluff, he ate it - otherwise he simply put the healthy sandwiches under the couch!

Whenever I hear about this move toward healthy eating - I think about how kids in some of those school districts are packaging the stuff up and going over to the main boulevard and trading the stuff to some homeless person for PayDays or Twinkies!

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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 10:59 PM
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55. You know. True Christianity would be a good thing.
Feed the children.

Love your neighbor.

Drives me crazy that so many who profess their love of Christ starve children and hate their neighbors. In religious terms, these people are going to hell.

Thank you for your story. Put it in an email to the white house and the congress. How about finding a congress person who will read it into the congressional record.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 11:08 PM
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61. Never thought of doing something like that :0)
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 11:31 PM
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65. It's stories like this *choke*
that bring me back to what's truly important on this earth.

Wow *gulp* :-(

Took me 5 times to read through the entire post.

Thank you and unending blessings to you and all those you touch snoutport:loveya:

AND.........

:yourock:
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 11:50 PM
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68. THanks very much
Sorry I choked you up so much. Seemed important to share.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 10:59 AM
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82. KICK
:cry:
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