As a 65 year old woman who has broken every glass ceiling

[Raven]

Palin shames me and makes be wonder if we have lost everything...and...if the male dominated media loves that she is deconstructing all of us and what we have accomplished through education and hard work...and sacrifice. I wonder about the Republicans and the Democrats on this...people are silent...the media loves it. They are all men as far as I can see. Why, in this society, if it values women at all, would we pay any serious attention to this woman? Why? How much does it diminish the rest of us?

[enough]

1. Raven, it does not diminish you at all. But as an over-65 woman, I feel your chargin. (nt)

[lumberjack_jeff]

2. Men don't have a monopoly on jackasses. n/t

[Raven]

4. would you like to explain that statement? Are you referring to me?

[lumberjack_jeff]

12. No. I thought it was obvious that I was referring to Palin.

Palin isn't representative of women any more than GWB is representative of men.

[EFerrari]

18. That's right. She has the right to be an ass and a grifter. n/t

[panader0]

3. She diminishes herself only

Not women. Nothing can diminish women.

[femrap]

5. won't it be great when we finally

reach the day where a woman can behave as stupidly as man and no one points out that she is a woman. Egads....remember the antics of W???? He could barely put a sentence together....but did anyone say 'look at those stupid white men.' No.

That's patriarchy for you.

Or if there is a horrible crime committed, do people say, "I bet that was some white dude." As Blacks, we say, 'please don't let it be a Black person.'

I try to turn the tables on the white dudes on occasion and give them a few jabs of ridicule, but I usually get crap for it....because after all, the white dudes rule.

Has Palin made it to the cover of 'Time' or 'Newsweek?' Because Nancy Pelosi was NEVER ON THE COVER OF EITHER...NEVER EVER. Rich white boyz rule the Media/Propaganda Machine.

What makes it more despicable is....the only reason she is getting any attention is because she is pretty. As the old saying goes:

I'd rather be pretty than smart cuz the boyz see better than they think.

[Warpy]

6. Palin is the archetype of the woman who lies, schmoozes and fucks her way to the top

and then has absolutely no idea what to do when she gets there.

It's why most working woman have an immediate and visceral dislike when they see her. We've all worked with at least one of them.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

7. Not all of us are at the stage where high profile women represent all women

I detest Palin. Who she is and what she represents is beyond gender, so I do not judge other members of her gender by her any more than I judge all men by the Gropenator or the Newt.

I also am aware that not everyone can separate gender representation from high profile individuals

[ljm2002]

8. I hear you...

...but it's not just men who are smitten with her. I had a coworker who was an early PUMA during the primaries, say to me when Palin was chosen as McCain's running mate "You must be really excited to have a woman on a Presidential ticket!"

Aaaarrrrgggghh.

I had to be nice. Ipointed out that Ms. Sarah wasn't breaking any new ground, Geraldine Ferraro was already a woman running for Veep, years ago. I told her that no, I was not excited about Sarah Palin because I considered her less than competent. But we didn't go much beyond that.

I can't imagine any woman, and certainly not an intelligent one, being snowed by Sarah Palin. But there it was. Gag me. Sarah Palin pretty much defines the word "grifter".

Now whether it's a plot as such? I think rather that those whose world view is so much different from ours, jump on any chance they can see to promote their view. Sarah Palin affords them the opportunity and they take it, aided of course by the right-wing echo chamber.

[EC]

9. I think they are doing it now for

comic relief.


Oh, on edit: I don't think those male reporters see it as a "woman" thing, that she is so stupid. I think they just think she's stupid. Most of them are married to professional women and I'm sure they appreciate them (or they wouldn't have married them).

[Whisp]

10. Palin does not shame me. She does nothing to me at all.

she has no affect on me or on anyone I personally know. Why are you giving her this mysterious power, which she doesn't have!

She does not represent all women and neither do I or anyone else.

She is a Nothing, why do we continue to talk about nothing over and over again.

Sorry to sound curmugeony, but I just don't get this magnetism to all Sarah. Can't you see she has You figured out when you carry her name all over?

:)
said in peace and not pokey sticky

[enough]

13. Right, Whisp. Thanks (nt)

[DonCoquixote]

11. I do not hate sarah because she is female

If she was a "he" named John Smith, HIS policies, statements, and actions would merit all the hate they do, and then some.

[snooper2]

14. I don't see her as a woman, I see her as a fucking idiot who is a bad parent

If spend any more energy thinking about it than that, she is also a grifter and a tool.

I put her in the same league as Mark Levin to be honest. Just another mouthpiece who has an easy life living off idiots.

[ScreamingMeemie]

15. Who? Never heard of her. n/t

[trof]

16. My mother would be furious.

Divorced in the south in the early 1940s with a toddler was not a good place to be.
The whispers abounded that she must be a 'Scarlet Woman'.
'Ladies' didn't get divorces.

She worked her way through and above it all.
Went to secretarial school to get a job and support us.
Slowly made her way up through the ranks and became a mutual fund saleswoman. The first woman (and ONLY one for a long time), to my knowledge, to do this in Birmingham, Alabama.
She knew all about glass ceilings and left the shards behind her.

She was eventually also an investment consultant and helped a lot of folks learn how and where to save, and to have much better retirement years than they might have had.

She was an active office holder in the Business and Professional Women's Club (BPW), and was president of the city's Soroptimist Club, another national businesswomen's service club.

She was appointed by the governor to the state board of pensions and securities.

Her lifelong charity was Aid to Dependent Children.
"They didn't ask to be born. We need to care for them."

When she died at the early age of 50 (breast cancer) the editor of the Birmingham News (a college classmate and good friend) honored her with a long and glowing obituary on the editorial page with photo.
She was a handsome woman.

And she would be very, VERY pissed at Sarah Palin.
I hear ya', Raven.
trof

[EFerrari]

19. ABW and Soroptimists put me through school

Those are some hardworking women.

[trof]

20. That's great.

When I first heard the term 'movers and shakers' I thought "Hey! That was my mom."
:-)

[Brickbat]

17. Feeling ashamed and despairing and diminished because of her only gives her power. Why do that?

Why make her a symbol of anything except the bizarre right?

[JoePhilly]

21. My wife and the other successful women I know feel similarly.

Although they don't call the emotion that they feel shame, they call it anger.

These are women who have worked hard, been paid less, had men take the credit, and the promotions, for their work.

That would be bad enough. But they knew what they were getting into.

But they also have known at least one "Palin". A woman who skates by on her looks and eye-lashes. Wink wink. Who giggles and flips her hair, and then bends forward intentionally while wearing a top with a low neck line.

A women who makes the good old boys in upper management smile.

The successful women I know see Palin as both a joke, and also as an embarrassment to women who've actually worked hard in a male oriented world.

And for all the right wing complaining about the evils of "political correctness", if you point this out to them, they'll scream you are a sexist for attacking a "strong woman" like Palin.

:puke: