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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 05:18 AM Original message |
Why is the term "chav" so controversial in the UK? |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 05:24 AM Response to Original message |
1. This is incomprehensible to anyone unfamiliar with UK slang. . n/t |
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FSogol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 08:02 AM Response to Reply #1 |
15. The term "Chav" is similar to the term "Poor White Trash." n/t |
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panzerfaust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 08:53 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. "Bogan" is the Oz Oi-quivalent |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 05:24 AM Response to Original message |
2. a coded attack on the poor ? |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 05:30 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Be serious - it's about far more than the clothes people wear |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 05:33 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. They are generally recognisable by the way they dress |
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Pab Sungenis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 06:34 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Not just dress |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 06:54 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Any comments I made above |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 06:37 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Yes. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 08:48 AM Response to Reply #4 |
21. The first time I heard the word "Chav" it was being used as a descriptor for this woman: |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 09:20 AM Response to Reply #21 |
28. nope - aggressive, ignorant, and dressed/made up garishly. No gender base at all. nt |
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Tunkamerica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 05:28 AM Response to Original message |
3. chavs have definite style like the greasers did here and the mods |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 05:42 AM Response to Original message |
6. Middle class IS working class. If you live paycheck to paycheck you are working class. (nt) |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 06:13 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. You may find |
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Blasphemer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 08:36 AM Response to Reply #7 |
17. Yes, I've been told that class differentiations are completely different in the UK |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 06:33 AM Response to Original message |
8. Because of the way it's used: to attack poor and working class people |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 07:20 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. all this handwringing would be meaningful if the term |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 07:23 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. That doesn't necessarily mean it isn't class based. |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 08:31 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. How? |
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FSogol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 08:36 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Aren't Paris Hilton and Linsey Lohan called white trash? |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 09:12 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Dunno - not my bag really. I wouldn't apply the term to them. S'pose some might. nt |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 08:43 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. That's why I qualified it with necessarily. |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 09:17 AM Response to Reply #20 |
26. But again - only a subset based on style/behavior |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 09:19 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. But again. That doesn't mean it isn't class based. |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 09:35 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. more detail please |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 09:47 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Do you really think that class distinctions aren't based on appearance? |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 10:42 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Appearances and behavior are chosen. Class is not, per se. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 10:50 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Right. But people will often choose and judge with class in mind |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 08:58 AM Response to Reply #13 |
23. I'm sure that Burberry's is THRILLED about this! n/t |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 09:14 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. They are trust me - chav money spends like any other |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 09:20 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Yeah, but it could slow sales with their traditional customer base... |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 09:43 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. nobody really knows, but almost no slang terms come from acronyms |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 10:42 AM Response to Reply #23 |
36. They stopped making some of their stuff |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 06:52 AM Response to Original message |
11. You'll have to ask the Brits. We're not about "Sloane Rangers" here, either. |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
19. It didn't get bad until Jen Saunders did that TV show ASBOlutely Chavulous |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
31. a pic may be useful |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-11 10:39 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Amazing |
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