Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

David Korten: But What About My 401(k)?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
 
marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 10:25 AM
Original message
David Korten: But What About My 401(k)?
from YES Magazine:



But What About My 401(k)?
Credit cards, mortgages, insurance, retirement: How to fulfill our basic financial needs without Wall Street.

by David Korten
posted May 31, 2011


The first reaction of most people to the call to shut down Wall Street is one of jubilant enthusiasm. The second reaction is, “But what about my 401(k) retirement account?” The same question might be raised about our credit cards, mortgages, and medical, homeowners, and auto insurance.

Money may be nothing but a number, but survival in a modern society is impossible without basic financial services. There are, however, better ways to deal with our very real financial needs than those presently offered by Wall Street. Here are some examples.

Credit Cards. Credit cards have two distinct functions: a convenient means of clearing transactions and an open line of credit. The first is a straightforward and beneficial service if properly regulated and transparent. The second is an enticement to debt slavery and predatory lending.

The solution to wages inadequate to provide for daily needs is not easier, cheaper, or fairer credit; it is to restore living-wage jobs, to tax the rich to provide a floor of essential public services, and to reduce household expenses by restoring the household as a center of production. Financing for large, durable purchases like a home, car, or major appliance can be arranged on a case-by-case basis with a local bank, savings and loan, credit union, or even the local merchant from which the purchase is made. ................(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.yesmagazine.org/blogs/david-korten/but-what-about-my-401-k



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 10:45 AM
Response to Original message
1. So...his answer to how to save for retirement is...don't???
Just trust the younger generations will take care of you?

That's not wise. At all.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
badtoworse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 10:55 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. I had the same reaction. Only a moron wouldn't save for retirement.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 12:28 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. Only a moron would entrust it to Wall Street.
nt

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 04:11 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. Please define "Wall Street." n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 04:13 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. Yup. If you have learned ANYTHING from this recession, it's
you can't trust them with your money.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 04:30 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. Who is "them"? Please define "Wall Street." n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 06:02 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. This isn't a Private Placement Memorandum; it's DU. I'm sorry if you are in the finance
industry, but we all know who Wall Street is.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 06:03 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. Then who is it?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 07:53 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. A community college can help you out.
Or an encyclopedia...? Wikipedia?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 09:41 PM
Response to Reply #9
14. Doubtful.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 07:55 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. It's funny how you portray yourself as wiser than the economist who
wrote the article in the OP, and you also portray yourself as ignorant of what "Wall Street" is.

When you are ready for a little honesty, let me know.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 09:38 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. I'm definitely more comfortable than the "economist" who wrote the
article about how to invest and prepare for retirement.

I'm just curious how some around here define Wall Street.

How do YOU define Wall Street?

And how do YOU plan on preparing yourself financially for retirement?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
badtoworse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 08:53 PM
Response to Reply #3
11. I've done quite well with my investments, thank you
Mutual funds, stocks and bonds. Where do you put your investments?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 09:40 PM
Response to Reply #11
13. I knew lots of people 10 years ago who wouldn't go near securities
(funds, stocks, bonds) with a 20-foot pole. Real Estate was the ONLY way to wealth for them.

Yeah, my funds have had a rocky 10 years, but they've fared a whole lot better than some of my friends' real estate investments.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun May 05th 2024, 01:10 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC