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Playinghardball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:35 PM
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Study: Whites say they face more racism than blacks
Source: Rsw Story

Whites in America now believe that they face more racial bias than blacks, according to a recent study.

Samuel Sommers of Tufts University and Michael I. Norton of Harvard asked 208 blacks and 209 whites to use a 10-point scale to indicate how much they thought blacks and whites were a target of discrimination each decade from the 1950s through the 2000s.

Less than 2 percent of blacks and whites gave anti-white bias the maximum score in the 1950s. More than 9 percent of both groups also gave anti-black bias the maximum score for that same decade.

Blacks and white agreed that racism against blacks decreased as the decades progressed. But whites, unlike blacks, felt that anti-white bias had increased along with the drop in anti-black bias. Eleven percent of whites rated anti-white bias at the maximum during the 2000s, while only 2 percent of blacks did.

More at: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/05/24/study-whites-say-they-face-more-racism-than-blacks/
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:37 PM
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1. study... whites are getting really stupid
info for study... op

lol

not you playinghardball.... the actual white people IN the study
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:39 PM
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3. +1
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:40 PM
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4. Exactly!!! n/t
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:48 PM
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11. No shit! What fucking planet do these whiners live on?
I can only guess they're white bread suburbanites who resent seeing black faces on their teevee sets or working in jobs where they don't have to shuck and jive and say "Yassuh, Massa" to every white face they see.

They're like the Christians who say they're oppressed every time an atheist opens his mouth.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:50 PM
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13. they are my two brothers. and they resent being told they have privilege adn looking for a
Edited on Tue May-24-11 02:50 PM by seabeyond
you got it

whine

that is all

i have listened to both, and snorted in disgust before they get beyond a couple words. lol
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:50 PM
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15. And probably the same ones that would like to repeal the civil rights laws of the 60's. n/t
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 04:19 PM
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29. Great analogy.
"They're like the Christians who say they're oppressed every time an atheist opens his mouth."

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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 04:13 PM
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25. clearly
I saw last week where someone was saying this.. what a laff :rofl:
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:38 PM
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2. Tell them to try being gay if they think whites have discrimination. n/t
Edited on Tue May-24-11 02:39 PM by RKP5637
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:40 PM
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5. Eleven percent does not justify the headline
If I understand that right, it says 11% of whites think this.

Which is pretty low, considering the 29% that are bonehead Republicans.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:52 PM
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16. Exactly, the subject line is bullshit, but at least it exposes stupidity here on DU. nt
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:57 PM
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21. the subject line comes from Rawstory
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:58 PM
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22. I know, I was referring to people's reaction to it. nt
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:41 PM
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6. Riiiiiiiiiiiiggghhht.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:41 PM
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7. Now that's rich
:eyes:
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:48 PM
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10. That's always been my response to the so-called studies claiming
that whites are smarter: "explain the stupid ones then".
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:48 PM
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12. Eleven percent of whites say they face more racism than blacks.
11% is pretty small.

A more accurate title would be, Whites don't say they face more racism than blacks.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 04:10 PM
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24. Total percentage is not really the point of the actual paper
http://www.people.hbs.edu/mnorton/norton%20sommers.pdf

There results show whites and black see Anti-black bias similar across the decades but differ in how the see anti-white bias. While only a small percentage see white bias as greater than black bias today. The overall trend upward is both pretty clear. Most interesting to me is the black community is perhaps not totally immune to zero sum gain thinking and though the trend is slight there is a possible increase in anti-white bias in that group as well.

Since the authors state "Of course, our results are correlational in nature, and as such, they do not necessarily reveal
that Whites believe that decreases in anti-Black bias cause increases in anti-White bias; future research should explore the
causal nature of the robust link we observe." reading too much into this might be a bad thing :)
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:50 PM
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14. lol
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:52 PM
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17. And Christians have it tougher than atheists.
Sometimes you can't just cure the stoopid.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:55 PM
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18. Teh stupid. It burns!
:dunce: :dunce: :dunce:
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:56 PM
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19. well thank goodness the article and Rawstory are providing examples
I doubt very much if the study really says what the Rawstory title says it does, and yet Rawstory, instead of presenting the story Raw - gives it some spin. Turns it into a "white people suck" story. They don't provide any data to back up their title. Apparently what "11% of whites say" gets transferred onto all whites. You might as well do a survey that finds 20% of white people do not believe in evolution and then title an article "whites don't believe in evolution".

Or, what the heck, go even further. Find .3% who say the world is flat and write an article titled "whites say the world is flat".

But apparently Rawstory does prove the point, that white people have to face a certain amount of racism just in the fact that some people will write articles with anti-white racist titles.

The "Perspectives in psychology" title also makes a sweeping claim about "whites" - "Whites See Racism as a Zero-Sum Game" but that article may provide more data to back up the title, unlike Rawstory. I'm not gonna pay $35 to read it though, just to find out.
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:56 PM
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20. !!
Edited on Tue May-24-11 03:00 PM by JonLP24
Edit-Should have read the article. 11% is a small number and hardly surprising considering the "white pride" fools.
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 03:01 PM
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23. Pffffft.
Yeah right -- especially that "built-in" racism from back when whites were slaves.

:sarcasm:
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 04:14 PM
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26. That merits this
:wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 04:14 PM
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27. What, they interviewed Dreamer Tatum?
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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 04:17 PM
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28. They think there's a double standard. It's actually privilege.
Had an argument with a friend who mentioned that a comedian Epps was racist against white people because he called served and called the server a "white B*tch"

His point was that if the roles were reversed and the comedian white and the server black, it would have been much more of a fire storm and that wasn't fair. It was a double standard.

His only example though was richard kramer who did a lot more then call some "Black".

Even though, I could still maybe have seen his point except for one detail.

a few centuries of intitutionalized racism. Racism that set up privilege based on skin color.

Those that have this privilege rarely ever realize it. To them it's normal.

However, those that don't are often keenly aware and to them it's seems absurd that anyone could not have noticed it's there.

But in dealign with that, the playing field ha dot be leveled so a lot of that privilege had to be given up.

So if you think that privilege was actually an entitlement, it can seem as if you're being persecuted.
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