Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

with hindsight do you wish Bush 41 won in 92

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
 
AlanCranston Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 04:15 PM
Original message
with hindsight do you wish Bush 41 won in 92
because think about it. In the 1994 midterms democrats probably get close to 290 seats in the house and easily get 60 seats in the senate. In 1996, Clinton probably runs again and wins and has a congress to pass whatever he wants.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 04:15 PM
Response to Original message
1. no
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 04:15 PM
Response to Original message
2. Not just no
but FUCK NO ! !
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 04:17 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. +1! nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 04:17 PM
Response to Original message
3. ummm... WTF?
Not just no but FUCK NO. WTF?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AlanCranston Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 04:18 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. the so called "Gingrich Revolution" of 1994 was probably
the worst thing to happen to democrats in the modern day. All those a-holes like Gingrich, DeLay, Armey would have been prevented from doing any damage.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 04:21 PM
Response to Reply #5
10. You think it would not have been worse if bush had a second term?
A simply mind numbingly stupid idea.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AndiMer Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 04:57 PM
Response to Reply #10
29. +1
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 04:44 PM
Response to Reply #5
21. Every once in a while the public needs to see exactly what level of flaming fucktards
Edited on Sun May-22-11 05:04 PM by Warren DeMontague
run the GOP.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 04:19 PM
Response to Original message
6. Clinton would not have gotten the nomination...
...the narrative would be "See, we gave a mostly-unknown, young governor a shot, and look what happened. Time to nominate one of the Great-And-Good."

Hello, President Sam Nunn, or some such.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AlanCranston Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 04:20 PM
Response to Reply #6
9. what's so bad about sam nunn?
he isn't that much different from Al Gore. He was a moderate/blue dog while he was senator because he had to be to please his reactionary constituents. Once he became VP he could be as progressive as he wanted.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 04:43 PM
Response to Reply #9
19. Sam Nunn
is pretty much personally responsible for DADT. He actually fired a person for being gay. Oh, and he opposed every single, solitary piece of gay rights legislation during his tenure in Congress. He is, in short, an anti gay bigot of the highest order.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 04:19 PM
Response to Original message
7. No.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 04:20 PM
Response to Original message
8. nope, politics just isn't like that , the it needs to get worse so we can get a payoff
later is bs. things just don't work like that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 04:25 PM
Response to Original message
11. "Interesting..."
:popcorn:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 04:26 PM
Response to Original message
12. no
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 04:29 PM
Response to Original message
13. Why would any Democrat wish for a Republican win in hindsight?
In hindsight, I wish Reagan and both Bushes had lost/never became President.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 04:34 PM
Response to Original message
14. Hell NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 04:36 PM
Response to Original message
15. Good God...why would ANYONE have wanted to see another term of that waste of gravity?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 04:39 PM
Response to Original message
16. I wish Clinton had swept in solid Democratic majorities in both chambers in '92. . .
I don't look under cow pies for sweet surprises.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 04:41 PM
Response to Original message
17. No - do you wish we had rescinded the 22nd Amendment in 2003
So that Arnold Schwarzenegger could run for President and been elected in 2008?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 04:43 PM
Response to Original message
18. You're quite mad, aren't you Alan?



I would never concede anything to the evil side.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 04:43 PM
Response to Original message
20. I'm still mad about Dewey losing to Truman.
No... seriously- WTF? Clinton was a great president, and the fart of 1994 notwithstanding, the 90s were en masse good for this country.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 04:46 PM
Response to Original message
22. No. Not even slightly.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 04:49 PM
Response to Original message
23. no n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 04:52 PM
Response to Original message
24. Wow.
No.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KeyserSoze87 Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 04:53 PM
Response to Original message
25. 16 years of repuke presidents? No thanks.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 04:53 PM
Response to Original message
26. Hahahahahahaha!
Not even a good effort.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 04:54 PM
Response to Original message
27. Let's use hindsight and prevent Bush 41 and Barbra from having Bush 43.
That would be a far better use of our time machine.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
road2000 Donating Member (995 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 04:56 PM
Response to Original message
28. Not only no, but hell, no.
And not only hell, no, but Al Gore was not a blue dog.

Old Bush winning in 02 would have paved the way for Baby Bush in 96. Clinton may not have been the nominee, and we'd have had 2000 -- only four years sooner.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 04:59 PM
Response to Original message
30. Never
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 05:02 PM
Response to Original message
31. No thanks!
If my wishes could change the past, none of them would involve a Bush family member having any power at all. I would wish them to never have been born.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 05:04 PM
Response to Original message
32. Are you nutz?
Obtuse:eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 05:06 PM
Response to Original message
33. Hell no.
Edited on Sun May-22-11 05:10 PM by PufPuf23
Mr. Cranston was my favorite CA pol before age of vote, Jerry Brown (to this day) my favorite.

I would rather have Jerry Brown POTUS than POTUS Obama.

Edit to add: Brown is signatory to my undergrad degree from Cal though started under Reagan and later left the Feds under Reagan for a Cal Masters under Dukmajian (sp).

Regretfully, POTUS Clinton was complicit in a now grassroots social democratic party with neo-liberal leadershop of the Democratic Party.

That said, POTUS Obama is doing better recently and maybe he can be unfettered for People after re-election in 2012.

I have found much to criticize starting when POTUS Obama made neo-liberal and GOP appointments or retentions.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 05:32 PM
Response to Original message
34. No, I don't. Because things don't happen in the sort of simple,
neat way you describe.

Shortly after Clinton came into office, we had a big financial crisis in Asia. Bush would not have been able to deal with it. His thinking was not flexible enough when it came to economic issues. (Bush I was not a brilliant man. Clinton is.)

So, we were better off with Clinton than Bush I, but I think we could have done much better than Clinton.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AlanCranston Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 06:13 PM
Response to Reply #34
36. when you said that Bush's thinking was not
flexible enough when it came to economic issues, wouldn't it have caused the democrats to pick up three dozen seats in 1994 to get to a 2/3 majority in the house and pick up enough senate seats to get to a 3/5 majority? Then a democrat would have won in 1996 and we would have been able to pass whatever we wanted. Dan Glickman, Neal Smith, Jack Brooks, Bill Sarpalius, Tom Foley and countless others would still be in office.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 06:05 PM
Response to Original message
35. only in nightmares.
Edited on Sun May-22-11 06:13 PM by rurallib
4 more years of stealing us blind?
ETA - I really wish the SCOTUS would have stayed out of 2000
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 06:21 PM
Response to Original message
37. Maybe HW would have got Bin Laden.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cameozalaznick Donating Member (624 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 06:23 PM
Response to Original message
38. Hell no...
For one thing, I can't think of an example of a candidate winning the nomination, losing the election, and then ever running again. At least not in my lifetime. Likely, Clinton would not have run in '96.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 07:23 PM
Response to Reply #38
40. didn't Nixon Lose one time?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 06:24 PM
Response to Original message
39. That would move W back four years, and he would be in his second term now

are you sure that is what you want?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 08:00 PM
Response to Original message
41. Wayback machine says no.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri May 03rd 2024, 06:10 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC