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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 09:13 AM
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So any 2012 prophecy believers here?
I have a friend who was making fun of the whole Rapture thing.

But he also believes in the whole 2012 Mayan calendar prophecy.
I have had a few discussions with him about it. My position is that 2012 is just another year, and we'll likely muddle through it as we do every year.

Anyone here believe in that?

Just wondering. I promise not to make fun or challenge.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 09:15 AM
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1. I believe 2012 will start, run 365 days, then end at 11:59 pm + 1 minute nt
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demmiblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 09:20 AM
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3. This... plus 1 day. n/t
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 10:32 AM
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11. Leap years are a conspiracy.
You don't really believe in that, do you? I don't know anyone who remembers an extra day in 2008, why would we think there's going to be one in 2012? And anyone who does say there was one is lying. They say we have to have leap years because each year is 365.25 days, not 365. That's bullhonkey! When has there ever been .25 of a day? What, the sun comes up and goes down in 8 hours one day out of the year? I never seen it!
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Gamow Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 09:16 AM
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2. The Mayans believed that they had to sacrifice people to keep the sky functioning
I don't think I'll trust their ancient "wisdom".
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 10:09 AM
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6. While the Christains believed they needed to torture, dismember and behead & burn people
to keep the Faith pure.

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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 10:17 AM
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9. LOL
That's great. I'm stealing that ;-)
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 09:53 AM
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4. I believe people are making prophecies
I guess I will have to make some art mocking them... :)
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 10:07 AM
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5. When you write about the 2012 prophecy you need to be specific
Edited on Sat May-21-11 10:12 AM by SpiralHawk
If you are writing about what 'people' say about the Mayan teachings, that is one thing.

If you are writing about what the Mayan Daykeepers say about their own calendar and related teachings, that is entirely another thing.

Important to distinguish the bullshit and banter from what the elders are actually saying -- which is not DOOMSDAY END OF THE WORLD. That peculiar message -- bandied about endlessly in the corporate media -- is a total perversion of what the elders say about the end of their old calendar, and the start of their new calendar (which, incidentally, is far more astronomically and mathematically accurate than the Gregorian calendar we all use and which 'claims' that today is something that can be called 'May 21.' Strange.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 10:36 AM
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14. I've looked into both superficially myself
I realize that there are interpretations that it is not the end but a shift.

Then there's the pop culture hype about it, like documentaries on places like History Channel.

Beyond that I can't speculate myself. My theory is that things are constantly changing, which is the only constant in life.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 10:13 AM
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7. My understanding of 2012
is that the Mayan lunar and solar calendars are in alignment. This happens ever 52 years. We visited some Mayan ruins a few weeks ago and this was how 2012 was explained by the tour guide who was part Mayan.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 10:15 AM
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8. Probably. The woo is thick in here sometimes.
All a post like yours does is help me update my mental "oh, they believe in unsubstantiated nonsense, better not talk about anything rational" list. :p

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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 10:26 AM
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10. They Mayan who was carving the calendar stone just ran out of space.
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 10:34 AM
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12. Indicating, of course, the end of the world. Uh oh, what happens if I run out of space on this subje
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 10:38 AM
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16. An ancient version of formatting limitations maybe?
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 10:37 AM
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15. Or figured they had a Millennium to get started on the next one. nt
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 10:39 AM
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17. Procrastination.
See where it gets you?
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 11:54 AM
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21. To be fair, they didn't need to write it down.
They never made it through the first calendar. ;)
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 10:35 AM
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13. Here it is
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 11:02 AM
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18. I'm not sure I want to know the answer to that one
Edited on Sat May-21-11 11:03 AM by Armstead
I prefer to have my illusions that there's more toThe Big Mystery than colliding little particles, I guess.
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 11:49 AM
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19. I can't wait to start making fun of that Apocalypse too.
This one was fun, that one should be even better.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 11:53 AM
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20. The whole 2012 Mayan Calendar thing is because they just ran out of space on the calendar.
Edited on Sat May-21-11 11:55 AM by 4lbs
The whole "big change coming" is....

just buy a new calendar. A bigger one, that has more space for more years and months, in it.


EDIT:

As you have probably ascertained, I am very dubious on this 2012 prophecy. I'm about as worried about it as much as I am the May 2011 "rapture" from the wacko old guy preacher.

I'm still planning for my retirement at age 70, which is about 30 years from now.
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Urban Prairie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 12:09 PM
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22. The only "end-times" that I REALLY believe in
Edited on Sat May-21-11 12:13 PM by Urban Prairie
Is that what humans might cause or create (ie..an incurable/untreatable continuously mutating super-virus escaping from a genetic-altering/experimenting/creating lab) or what nature may cause through a super-volcanic eruption (Yellowstone) massive earthquakes, Cat 5+ massive-scale hurricanes/cyclones, climate change and environmental pollution/poisoning, or the effect(s)of huge solar flare(s), or perhaps a "nearby" super-nova explosion with its deadly gamma rays striking Earth, or that of a large enough asteroid or comet impacting into the planet and/or Moon.
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