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Jack Sprat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 03:10 PM
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My suggestion for Election Fraud.
How about assigning each voter a number within each precinct and mandating that each precinct within county must publish the results the day following the election? This way each voter could verify that his vote was counted accurately by searching for his assigned number and verifying that his candidate selections were recorded accurately.

There is no doubt that republiCons nationwide are seeing the demographics change and working feverishly to suppress the vote and make it possible to alter the vote by fraud when needed.

We need lawsuits, ACLU support, and activism to restore democracy in a country being hijacked by people who want to eliminate it in favor of minority rule.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 03:23 PM
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1. I think that is a most excellent idea, Jack. I wish the PTB cared enough to enact it. n/t
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Jack Sprat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 03:46 PM
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2. Thank you very much.
Because currently there is no way to know how your vote is counted or if it was counted at all. All we can verify is the total printed by ward or precinct and have to hope that our vote was tabulated correctly. But we cannot verify it at all.

In the 2000 election, we got minority rule and the results were devastating. We are still living with the consequences and will be for a long time to come. It is even possible that votes have been altered in local elections as well. I think we are seeing massive election fraud in every part of the country. The very phenomena that republiCons are publicly active in making voting more difficult should be evidence in its self of what is going on. Alarm bells should be ringing in every corner. This is an historic endeavor for autocracy in the USA.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 08:44 PM
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5. I helped with the Election Reform forum here for a bit, what I learned
threw me for a loop. I always suspected it was rigged, but seeing evidence from all over the country hammered it home.

It's hard to convince the apathetic, and/or those suffering from learned helplessness, to act in a way to benefit themselves.

Those I talk to are convinced it's rigged so badly there is nothing they can do. I tell them that we are the only way to change. "Nothing I can do." should actually be translated - Nothing I want to do.



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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 04:18 PM
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3. ABSOLUTELY NOT! Becuase that requirers electronic voting. How about hand-counted paper
ballots, counted at the precinct upon conclusion of the voting, then machine counted and verified locally and centrally.

Eliminate chain-of-custody problems with counting at the polls.
Eliminate computer programmed counting with hand counts.
Eliminate black boxes with paper.
Eliminate fraud with electronically-counted security checks.

Make sure no extra ballots exist.
Make sure ballots are secured in a non-partisan custodianship.
Publish all counts publicly in useful, standardized formats.
Publish all counts locally immediately.

Allow same-day registration, provisionally if necessary.
No ID laws as a national standard.
Maybe take photos of voters as a poll book practice.


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Jack Sprat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 04:46 PM
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4. No problem
I have no problem with any of your suggestions. Any way that we can ensure open, honest elections is my hope. Right now, we don't. I was simply trying to think of a way each voter could validate that their vote was recorded accurately in a public, published record while still protecting their privacy. Just thought a number assignment would accomplish that.
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