Dominique Strauss-Khan: Accuser to Testify

[whathehell]

Source: The Daily Beast

The maid accusing IMF Chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn of sexual assault will testify against him, though her lawyer says she is "scared."

Meanwhile, as he sits under suicide watch at Rikers Island, a Mexican newspaper reports allegations he also assaulted a maid in Mexico.




Read more: http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-05-16/dominique-stauss-kahn-to-be-arraigned-monday-in-new-york/?om_rid=DzVRRW&om_mid=_BN1BU6B8bQBfab

[roguevalley]

1. he's scum and he's toast. probably. poor woman.

[whathehell]

16. My reaction as well. n/t

[totodeinhere]

23. Or he was set up.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4855491&mesg_id=4855588

[Thrill]

2. What are they saying he actually did?

Did he actually have sex with her or just feel her up?

[whathehell]

3. Either way...

It doesn't look good for him, does it?

I mean, what is he going to say?...Ummm..Yes, I had "consensual" intercourse with this maid,

but only "consensual" feel ups with that maid?....I don't think so.:eyes:

[Blasphemer]

4. The charges:

His charges:

One count of Sexual Abuse, 3rd Degree, a B misdemeanor, in violation of N.Y. Penal Law 130.55
Two counts of Criminal Sex Act by Force, 1st Degree, B felonies, both violating P.L 130.50(1)
One count of Unlawful Imprisonment, 2nd Degree, an A misdemeanor, in violation of P.L. 135.05
One count of Sexual Abuse: Contact - Forcible Compulsion, a D felony, in violation of P.L. 130.65(1)
One count of Forcible Touching, an A misdemeanor, in violation of P.L. 130.52

As I understand it, he forced her to perform oral sex and attempted to restrain her to continue his assault but she got away.

[Thrill]

5. Not saying she is lying. But how the heck do you make someone

suck your dick?

[Blasphemer]

6. Article with more details:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/16/strausskahn-text-idUSN1629140220110516

Deponent states that deponent is informed by an individual known to the District Attorney's office that defendant 1) shut the door to the above location and prevented informant from leaving the above location; 2) grabbed informant's breasts without consent; 3) attempted to pull down informant's pantyhose and forcibly grabbed informant's vaginal area; 4) forcibly made contact with his penis and informant's mouth twice; and 5) was able to accomplish the above acts by using actual physical force.

[Thrill]

8. Sounds like a painful

BJ. lol. You have to be one horny wacko to want it that way

[whathehell]

33. It could have been worse, lol.

[Iliyah]

7. Threatening her,

believe it or not, most women who are being threaten, especially with bodily harm, do unwillingly comply. Thats why she told her superiors right after it happened. She is a immigrate probably on a visa or green card to work in the U.S. Naturally a lot of men, especially in one particular party, the party who is waging war on women, are blaming the victim. Heck, she has no money but he is very rich. I can see her being paid off, where she will probably go back to her home country.

If being said she didn't who he was. Nevertheless, this will probably haunt her the best of her life.

In short, money talks.

[jberryhill]

29. Political asylum case, actually /nt

[whathehell]

15. Are you shitting me?

It could be easier than raping them vaginally,

but if you haven't a clue as to how, I'll tell you

First, as a male you get to be, on average,

60 pounds heavier and three inches taller

with greater upper body strength.

Second, you restrain her with one hand

and you push her head down with another.

As a female, I find your "skepticism"

a bit odd.

[Thrill]

20. Well

You shouldn't find it odd. I can see him forcing it in her mouth. But the act of actually sucking it to completion no less seems odd unless he had a gun to her head. But as someone said above the threat of being sent to her country could have made her comply as well. I suppose it's also possible that she just held her mouth open while he forcefully penetrated it. The article doesn't tell us enough.

But I wouldn't know. I've never had to force anyone to do it. But I'm skeptical about this situation

[whathehell]

22. Oh

Now I understand your "skepticism"...You're male.

"But the act of actually sucking it to completion no less seems odd unless he had a gun to her head".

First of all, the details, like "completion" etc, are unknown and not even reported but by virtue of their greater strength, men in a violent encounter they initiate, are

always "holding a gun" to a woman's head....He doesn't need a weapon...He IS a weapon by virtue of his physical power...Hell, if he had her in a choke hold

he could have broken her neck, or threatened to.

"I've never had to force anyone to do it"...You've never "had to force" anyone, huh?...

The fact is, Thrill, no sex act should be a question of "force"..No one "has" to,

or, as a point of law, in fact, is "allowed" to force anyone into a sex act

..And your framing it that way makes me a little "skeptical" of you.

[sufrommich]

50. Some of the posts I've seen here and the last couple of

days are truly stunning. "Why didn't she just bite him"? Um, because because she was terrified?

[seabeyond]

76. Now I understand your "skepticism"...You're male.

i did the same conversation in my head reading thru this subthread. the obvious to the oh.... now i understand why the obvious is nto so obvious

[Dorian Gray]

94. Did the charges

include sucking it to completion?

WTF?

[Odin2005]

27. -1,000,000,000

[WatsonT]

45. Happens in prisons all the time

apparently it isn't that complicated.

Figure out what they would prefer happen to them even less than forcible oral sex, like say having their teeth kicked in.

[seabeyond]

77. thankyou for stating the obvious, that some seem to not get. nt

[Distant Observer]

47. Oral contact means he attempted but failed to get much sucking - still sexual assault

[seabeyond]

78. he felt so entitled and worthy, and naked after all, ... grab her hair and push her down

how many times have you seen this in the movies. you know, entertainment. i dont think it is a foriegn scenario for many at all, regardless of pretending otherwise.

[yella_dawg]

83. Actually...

How the heck do you make someone suck your dick without biting it off?

This is getting weird.

[seabeyond]

85. you have never seen the scenario played out in movies. fun entertainment.

man intimidates, threatens, grabs hair and shoves head.

never seen it?
not an understanding?
totally beyond your scope?

really?

[WatsonT]

87. How do you get someone to get in that back of a van against their will?

Pointing a gun at their head works pretty well.

Point being: people can often be coerced in to doing things they wouldn't ordinarily do if they believe they will suffer a worse fate for refusing.

Easy enough to say "she should have bit his dick off" but consider how things would have gone for her in such a scenario. Likely he wouldn't have said "wow, you've shown me the error of my ways. I apologize for any inconvenience, now could you please escort me to a hospital?"

[JDPriestly]

10. Would you let a hostile individual's mouth near your private parts?

Seems a very hazardous thing to do. Remember Lorena Babbit? (I don't know whether I spelled her name right.)

A person would have to be really insane to do what Strauss-Kahn is accused of doing.

Her story as recounted in the press could be true. Anything could be true. But so far, it is hard for me to believe.

[AtheistCrusader]

12. Happens quite a lot, sadly.

Leveraging teeth as weapons is not something a lot of people think to do. Especially people who are not accustomed to violence.

He may have had a weapon of some sort as well, such as a knife. We'll know more under court proceedings.

[whathehell]

18. Yes...I was going to say the same thing...People are so frightened and caught "off guard"

by a sudden act of violence, they're frequently

rendered almost helpless, psychologicaly.

This guy, if guilty, is a fucking animal.

[whathehell]

17. I wouldn't, but I'm not a male with a rape mentality....

and I know a woman that was violated in this way...It was horrific.


As to the danger, well..Men make up virtually ALL the receipients of

the "Darwin Awards" and I'm sure you realize that they're not

always the brightest or most "careful" of creatures when their dicks or egos are involved and

the "little head" has switched places with "the big head".

I'm surprised there aren't MORE Lorena Bobbits out there, honestly,

considering the level and amount of abuse going on.

[JDPriestly]

38. I'm with you on Lorena Bobbit. Surprised there aren't more.

My daughters took self-defense courses. We encouraged them to. More women should take them.

[whathehell]

57. Yes.

Good idea with your girls, I wish I'd taken

them when I was younger.

[jberryhill]

30. It's not clear whether the contact was exterior or interior, so to speak

But, given the incidence of men showing up in emergency rooms having put their penis into unusual objects and devices, I'd imagine there are men who will put it just about anywhere, really.

[seabeyond]

44. right. so she is lying and needs her ass fried... po picked upon man. nt

[Prometheus Bound]

31. forcible anal and oral sex among other things.

[Eddie Haskell]

74. I heard he turned a newt into a toad.

:)

[seabeyond]

75. you really feel the need to make light of rape, dont you. nt

[Eddie Haskell]

79. Not at all

But you're awfully quick to accept hearsay as fact. Go on with your trial.

[seabeyond]

80. police report that isnt pulled out from thin air as this conspiracy theory that you are willing

to embrace with no foundation or fact at all

and ya.... sounds like you were making lite of rape

[Eddie Haskell]

82. I was making lite of the rush to judgment

I have no theory and no agenda. If asked to serve on the jury, I could say under oath that I am completely unbiased. Could you?

I do reserve the right to hear both sides of the story and ask a lot of questions.

[seabeyond]

86. could i say i am not biased? not even. so? i couldnt with the drunk driver

when i was asked to sit on jury either.

should i lie?

[Muskypundit]

9. money could talk either way

Being powerful gets you your fair share of powerful enemies. The without bail thing makes it feel like a setup too. We will see, should be an interesting trial.

[whathehell]

13. Why should he be given bail?...He's an obvious flight risk.

I fail to see how refusing bail for this man

consititutes a "set up"....

rape against him signifies a "set up",

but we have, on DU, seen quite a few people

speculating on that...OTOH, I never saw

anyone suggest that, Republican Mark Foley of the

scandalous White House Pages scandal,

speculate on that.

[totodeinhere]

25. He is not a flight risk. In his bail proposal, he has agreed to waive extradition.

Plus he has surrendered his passport, he would wear an ankle bracelet, and be watched by private security. He has a right to bail just like anyone else does, Yes, he should not get special privileges because of his position. But he also should not be taken advantage of because of his position either.

[whathehell]

32. I think you meant "No, he should not get special privileges because of his position"

and I agree with you.

The fact is, he is not the first person able to pay 1 million dollar bail

who was denied it....It doesn't mean he was "taken advantage of"


There is really no "right" to bail..It's granted at the judge's discretion

and this judge ruled against it.

End of story.

[joshcryer]

34. Eighth Amendment kind of endows us that right, actually, but there are exceptions.

The Eighth Amendment is ambiguous enough that it doesn't technically convey a right in all instances of bail. He's a flight risk and anyone who lets him out is going to look really stupid doing so if he gets out of the country.

[totodeinhere]

81. It's not the end of the story because he can continue to petition the judge for bail.

Denying him bail the first time doesn't end his right to continue to seek bail.

[whathehell]

95. He's been indicted by a grand jury and will have to plead

or stand trial.

He might get house arrest and an ankle bracelet,

but that's as good as it's going to get for him.

[blondeatlast]

37. Adn why should this socialist hero to the proles get VIP treatment

when your average perp doesn't?

I find the hypocrisy of the "set-up/conspiracy" crowd almost laughable, except it's really rather tragic.

[whathehell]

58. I agree completely....If he acted as the maid says,

he's no better than the worst of street thugs...If he didn't have

a high priced hotel room, he'd jump her in an alley.

[msanthrope]

52. You don't have a right to bail. You have a right to a fair hearing regarding your bail. n/t

[msanthrope]

51. Without bail because of number of felonies, and France has no extradition treaties.

Look up "Ira Einhorn" and see how long it took to get that fucker back....

[JDPriestly]

11. Suicide watch on Rikkers Island, with all the other political prisoners?

Just asking.

The story may be true, but I am not convinced.

[whathehell]

14. What part of the story are you unconvinced of?

[JDPriestly]

40. That he ran after her while naked, caught her and took her in

a bedroom. Seems to me that a 32-year old who works as a maid could out-run a 62-year old man who is stocky built and naked. Also, that this suspect would try to rape a woman and then go have lunch with his daughter just doesn't seem credible to me.

I suspect he sees the story quite differently than she does.

I have read that 57% of the French believe that he was set up. I'm skeptical of that too, though it is possible.

But then, I am an older woman, and I just can't imagine a person of his intelligence being so stupid.

I suspect that hotel maids have to be pretty cautious and knowledgeable about protecting themselves even in expensive hotels. So, it surprises me that this could happen.

The hotel could have some responsibility for any harm done to her. There should have been a supervisor or another member of her team working near her. I do not go to hotels often, but I have noticed that some hotels have the maids work in teams. The maid may come to an individual room alone, but one of her co-workers is working a room nearby.

[seabeyond]

54. blame the woman in every way for her assault, and coddle the man

:puke:

[JDPriestly]

65. Actually, seabeyond, you have touched on the problem with the

news story. It is all her side. We haven't heard anything from him.

Court trials allow both sides to present their case -- for a reason. You have made up your mind already although you don't read French newspapers, you don't know the individuals involved and you have heard only one version of the facts.

That is the power of propaganda in our day. We hear one side of a story and don't even ask whether there is another.

Generally, the woman turns out to be right in these situations, but not always. And there are some very strange things about this woman's story.

[seabeyond]

67. there are not strange things. across the ocean where they are aware of this mans behavior

is condone fondly, joked about, with a wink and a nudge, i am suppose to take what france is saying.

there is evidence and facts for you to look at that she was assaulted. there is nothing but made up stories to create a conspiracy that he was set up. why the hell am i going to waste my time on shit that people are making up.

your evidence of his innocence is his wife stands with him. since about all wives do for at least a while, why would you expect anything less. since she has in the past, why wouldnt she now.

yet for you, that is proof he is innocent. you want me to buy this shit, conspiracy shit and ignore the facts we know

[JDPriestly]

89. Seabeyond, there is no proof one way or the other, neither

for his guilt nor for his innocence. What troubles me here on DU is the rush to judgment before the facts are known. It simply isn't right.

He may be a total criminal. He may not be. Let's wait until we hear both sides.

[seabeyond]

96. they took a swath of carpet she spit out remains of forced blow job

there is evidence.

[whathehell]

60. Maybe you've had scant experience with predatory men....I'm sorry to say I have not.

and I can WELL imagine the scenario that the

maid has reported.

I can't imagine WHY you appear to be bending over


backwards to give this woman-aggressive man the

"benefit of the doubt"

For God's sake, look at his

history.

[JDPriestly]

64. Because I believe that a defendant is innocent until proven guilty

and because I am by nature a person who defends the underdog.

The woman's story may be true, but Le Monde points to some discrepancies and questions.

Strauss-Kahn's wife, Ann Sinclair, is reported to be headed to the US. She is one of France's most popular television personalities. She has a lot of public relations expertise and may be able to present his side of the story.

I'm willing to wait to form my opinion. The facts the woman tells are just not entirely credible to me. There are things she is presenting so as to change the picture a bit and others she is leaving out. That is my feeling.

[seabeyond]

66. defendant is innocent ... but you are doing your damnest to make victim guilty.

the woman has not changed her story. she has barely said anything

and what does it prove the wife standing by the man. that is validation for innocents to you? how many times has this wife been confronted for her to say... but i love him, regardless.

:puke:

[JDPriestly]

70. I am taking this stance because there seems to be such a rush

to take her side here on DU.

It looks like bandwagon, mob action.

We don't know the facts on this yet at all.

She may be 100% right. He may be 100% right. Most likely the truth is in the middle or slightly to one side or the other.

Strauss-Kahn may have a reputation for sexual escapades. But then no one has a bigger one than Berlusconi. And Sarkozy himself was two-timing his wife. Who knows how he conducts himself with hotel maids?

Let's wait this out. DU has become one big hate-fest against this Strauss-Kahn, although no one knows what, if any, defense he will present. This is hate-Strauss-Kahn frenzy is just crazy.

I remember seeing a similar reaction when the accusations were made against Blagojevich. Blagojevich was not a saint, but the claims against him were extremely exaggerated and most of them could not be proved.

Let's calm down and not rush to judgment.

I am like this because, in college I was tried and "convicted" by a kangaroo court in the dorm in which I was living. I was extremely young, and during the "hearing," all I could do was cry. I couldn't answer their questions because I did not know the first thing about the acts that I was accused of. The person who had actually violated the rules was caught doing it again, but I was never exonerated. In fact, my disciplinary probation is still on my college transcript and, every time I look at or think about that transcript, I am reminded me of injustice and how difficult is for a person who is falsely accused to defend himself. In fact, I was the last person who should have been accused of what was done. Someone was sneaking out at night. I didn't have a boyfriend or any reason to sneak out, and everyone knew that. The "trial" and "conviction" was personal vengeance on the part of two girls about whom I happened to know a secret they did not want broadcast and that I would never have told anyway. That's how life really works.

And lots of people have personal reasons, personal interests for destroying Strauss-Kahn at this point in history. His wife was a supporter of Pierre Mendez. He and his wife are very popular and very committed to their socialist party. That is a possible motivation for a set-up. I have read that 57% of the French polled think this was a set-up.

So that is why I am so reluctant to convict Strauss-Kahn at this point. I reserve the right to change my mind-- when I have heard all the facts.

[seabeyond]

72. sexual escapades... assaults. there is difference. facts and evidence of the case

is what has drawn people to a conclusion.

"She may be 100% right. He may be 100% right. Most likely the truth is in the middle or slightly to one side or the other." this here, makes me :puke:.

"This is hate-Strauss-Kahn frenzy is just crazy." because it makes people :puke:

"Let's calm down and not rush to judgment." you are question if she knocked. why she cant outrun a 62 yr old.

"I have read that 57% of the French polled think this was a set-up. " they also think the rape of a 13 yr old is simply making love and just.

looked, i was angry with your posts of excuses that are unacceptable to me as i posted above. i was not even going to read thru your post because they are so outrageous to me, that it was too hard to read. and then i got to your personal aprt you shared, and i became calmer and not so ready to attack. but i am leaving stand what i posted above.

i haev been raped twice. i never went to the police because would be a he said, she said, what part was mine. i know how this works. and what you are doing, the position you are taking, the comments you are making are truly disgusting, for the victim.

you ignore all the reason why it is clear that probably this will play out as the report says. the defense will probably use the conspiracy you guys are creating for him and her a paid whore to do him in. his wife will stand by him, though she has probably heard, seen, experienced enough to know the maid is telling the truth. and he will probably get off because he is a special, rich, powerful, french man that is the great seducer. then the men will wink, nudge adn giggle that women know their place again

[JDPriestly]

88. I am sorry to hear about your personal experiences.

Rape is very common, especially in the US.

And it is not the fault of the victim.

But we still have to remember that an accused is innocent until proven guilty.

If you are raped and automatically accused of having asked for what happened to you, you are being tried and convicted before the facts have been determined. That is just as wrong to do to someone accused of being a rapist as it is to do to someone who is raped.

We have to wait until we know the facts.

He may be quite guilty of the intent to rape and of rape. But we have only heard one side of the story thus far. It is too early to judge.

[seabeyond]

97. and the point people are making, we are drawing conclusions from fact and evidence gathered

those protecting this man is doing it all with conspiracy that has no factual or evidence basis.

HUGE difference

[sabrina 1]

90. I am sorry you had that experience JDPriestly.

You are a very thoughtful and rational person. Not everyone on DU is rushing to judgement so you are no alone. But many people, seeing the 'hate-fest' as you correctly called it, are choosing to remain silent. I, like you, will continue to state my opinions, despite the attacks on my character.

Thank you for your calm thoughtful approach to this, and other issues I've seen your comments on. As you said, we know only one side of this story at the moment :-)

[JDPriestly]

98. Thank you, sabrina 1.

He could be as guilty as sin, but we haven't heard his point of view, his story yet. Jumping to conclusions is not fair.

[sufrommich]

68. What discrepancies does Le Monde point out? nt

[seabeyond]

69. and talk about discrepencies. i didnt do it, have alibi. she wanted it. fuck. nt

[JDPriestly]

71. The timing is questionable.

Strauss-Kahn was videoed leaving the hotel at 12:30 p.m. The hotel did not report the incident to 911 as an emergency until much later.

The maid did not put her card through the key ID on the door of the suite. She claims that another hotel employee was in the suite picking up things when she entered, and that he told her that no one was in the suite.

She may have opened one of the doors in the suite without knocking because she thought the place was empty.

There are just a lot of questions about what happened. I can't remember all of them.

Strauss-Kahn's wife is a beloved figure in France. Apparently her grandfather promoted some of the greatest French artists, and she is a celebrated TV personality and a leader in the community in her own right. We shall see what she says about the situation. I do not know for a fact, but I suspect that she is an avid supporter of women's rights, so she will put new light on these events.

Let's wait until we have more facts before taking sides on this. We just know too little.

And I can think of a couple of scenarios that would explain a lot of the few facts and allegations we have heard, but would suggest that he did not have the intent to rape but rather to accomplish something very, very different that was perfectly legitimate.

[seabeyond]

73. when a woman is traumatically assaulted she needs to calm down and think and decide

if she wants to report this adn take all the shit she is taking now. i think the fact she caled in within an hour is a plus to her accounting of an attack.

[LisaL]

91. I don't know where you got the key card story from.

From what I've read, she did use the card.
It took about an hour for the hotel to contact police (thus initial time discrepancy). I am not sure if it means the woman waited for some period of time, of if that hotel waited for some period of time before calling police.

[whathehell]

92. Umm...No.

"and because I am by nature a person who defends the underdog".

Really?

I view myself that way,

and I fail to see how a

wealthy, well-connected white man

is an "underdog", relative to

an unknown African immigrant

maid.:shrug:

[pmorlan1]

19. Not so fast.

I'm not willing to say he's guilty just based on accusations. The thing that bothers me is that I recently read a piece by Joseph Stiglitz where he was talking about this guy moving the IMF in a progressive direction. If that is true that would create all kinds of powerful enemies for this guy. The kind of enemies that would set this man up. It also bothers me that Julian Assange was also accused of rape and like this case the charges moved along very quickly. I was shocked today to see that there was already a grand jury on this case. Usually in rape cases or sexual assault the wheels of justice move very slowly.

This man may be guilty but there are enough red flags on this case that I'm waiting to hear the entire story before I convict this man and demand a penalty.

[pmorlan1]

21. Link to Stiglitz Piece

Here is a link to the article by Stiglitz.

www.smh.com.au/business/strausskahn-puts-a-new-face-on-imf-20110510-1eh4n.html

[leftstreet]

39. Thanks for posting that

I hadn't seen it

Thanks

[lapislzi]

84. You can hold both thoughts in your head at the same time

I admire the man's work with the IMF and his fiscal policies. But, if he turns out to be a rapist, he must be brought to justice. It's that simple.

The fact that we like some of his ideas in no way earns him a buy, either with DU or with the world.

[whathehell]

24. "Not so fast".. What?.

He's not yet been tried, let alone convicted and, like all such crimes, this one needs to be investigated.

He may have enemies, but I doubt that many are Mexican or African maids...He's also

been accused of rape or attempted rape by a French journalist whose family he had known

(and liked) for quite some time.



"I was shocked today to see that there was already a grand jury on this case. Usually in rape cases or sexual assault the wheels of justice move very slowly".

Actually, this may be a fortunate occurrence for him...Would you rather he sit in Rikers for a long time?

[joshcryer]

36. It's not really a fortunate occurance, it's law, it's called due process.

Unless the grand jury is waived (for whatever reasons that the accused want), every accused felon in NY gets one. Grand juries are awesome from a lawyer point of view, but if she stands before the grand jury you can bet that DSK is going to trial. There's no way a grand jury lets him walk.

[whathehell]

41. Please tell that to the poster to whom I was responding...It's not me that needs convincing,

it's Pmorlan1...He seemed to think it was just

further evidence of "unfair" treatment.

[seabeyond]

46. and other than those three women police are investigating another and the madam he used says hooker

refused to go back to him because he was too aggressive

but wtf

the maid is lying

[whathehell]

59. Yes of course,,,,

He sounds like a sociopathathic animal.

[totodeinhere]

26. I agree with you. Anymore, I can think that almost any conspiracy theory might have merit.

Over half of French people in a recent poll think he was set up.

http://www.euronews.net/2011/05/18/majority-of-french-think-dsk-was-set-up

[seabeyond]

48. the also knew about his behavior and joked about it or dismissed it in all their sophistication

just being the great seducer

[joshcryer]

35. Indictments in NY require a grand jury (can be waived, however). The time limit is 3 days...

...from arraignment. I don't know what's so controversial about that. This sounds like the "it was fast to get arraigned" argument even when arraignment averages under 24 hours in New York. It's weird, but yeah, the criminal system moves fast when it comes to putting people behind bars.

Now the trial? Max time is 6 months unless there are requested delays (for fact finding, etc), and oh boy this will have so many delays it'll be funny. No trial happens in the alloted statutory time.

[malaise]

42. Ditto

but apparently his reputation won't help here

[seabeyond]

49. being so well known for assaulting women, and now being accused of just that? no

probably wont help. since he has history of doing just his, and there is nothing to show the police, maid and ny is working against the man..... i imagine it wont help

[jberryhill]

28. The worst part of this whole thing, IMHO

Is that, whatever specifically happened in the hotel, this woman came to the United States as a political refugee, and is now enmeshed in what must be a confusing and frightening legal process.

I hope she comes through this okay.

[seabeyond]

43. another in NY coming forward on an assault and the madam he used says hooker

claimed aggressive and would not go back to him again.

but really.... he is a po rich powerful white guy that gets it enough and would never rape. rich powerful white men getting enough sex just dont do that.

[whathehell]

62. Yes....He sounds like a dangerous sociopath, frankly. n/t

[Le Taz Hot]

53. Salute to a very brave woman.

:patriot:

Stay strong, my sister.

[sufrommich]

55. +1. nt

[seabeyond]

56. from what i read, i dont know that she even has any desire to be brave... but yes

i stand with her too.

we have posters on this board blaming her for evey point of her own assault. doesnt get uglier.

[whathehell]

61. Agreed....This SOB has a reputation for aggressive behavior toward women going back years..

It's despicable, on its face, and not in small

part because of the huge power differential

between the two...A very wealthy, "prominent"

politician picking on a chamber maid

It could hardly get worse:puke:

[blondeatlast]

63. Amen to that. If I could personally offer her even a moment of peace, I'd be there in an instant. nt

[Dorian Gray]

93. Wow.

If this is all true, I truly hope he is brought to justice.