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MrsBrady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 09:53 PM
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he didn't just cheat on his wife, Arnold Schwarzenegger put his wife's heath at risk.
Arnold apparently has been getting around.
While that doesn't surprise me, or probably many of us, I haven't heard anyone talk about this.

Have you? If I've missed it, please let me know.

He has at least one child on the side, and from what I'm reading, maybe another or more.
And he'd been probably getting around lots, lots more.
And he's a big hypocrite with all the family values crap he has spewed. Also not another big surprise.

He came home to Maria after all that messing around.
I hope she's getting tested. I'm sure she's got good heath care. I hope she's thought of this.

But others do this every day all over the world. Put themselves and their perhaps unknowing partners at risk.
Apart from the hurtful deceit and hypocrisy that comes with cheating, these people think nothing of perhaps making someone they supposedly love sick.

And that's really sick.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 09:54 PM
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1. she married ARNOLD
Edited on Wed May-18-11 09:55 PM by Skittles
he has always been a disgusting piece of shit - it's not like his behavior was anything new
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 09:59 PM
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3. Yup. You get what you pay for. n/t
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 11:07 PM
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33. At that time, he was not a politician and we sometimes go with our heart!
Maria is the innocent partner here!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 03:31 AM
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37. bullshit
that guy was slime long before he officially became repuke slime
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:29 AM
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38. I disagree
Due diligence is the least we women can practice before we get married.
I know a woman who has HIV - her husband died of AIDS twelve years ago and of course he infected her.

She told me that what was most painful was his infidelity. Clearly she saw the shock on my face and asked me why I was so surprised at her comment. I asked her if she never thought he would be as unfaithful to her as he was to the woman to whom he was married when she was having an affair with him.

What makes any woman believe that an unfaithful man will be faithful to her? Is it arrogance or naivete?
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 09:54 AM
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55. Not just women
I've known plenty of men who have believed their wives would be faithful to them, too.

Why?

Because they want to believe. And also because they fear losing the person. Yeah...some people are so afraid of being alone that they accept some pretty awful behavior from their partners.

It's real easy for someone not involved in the relationship to say, "Well, just LEAVE the asshole!!"

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:21 PM
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67. On what basis do you want to believe when the person has a history
is either arrogance or naivete but I agree with you that just leave isn't as easy as it sounds for many folks. And it's true some people do fear being alone but discovering that child that used to come over is your husband's child and he has been deceiving you big time often forces you to file for divorce so you might just as well as left the scumbag after you knew he was a scumbag.

If several women went public and said they had affairs with hubby I surely would not have asked whether people wanted to trust the women or me - I would have STFU and let it play out.
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Doctor Hurt Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 09:57 PM
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2. This is why I always insist on meeting my wife's boyfriends.
.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 10:09 PM
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8. Your post reads as if your wife keeps getting new boyfriends. nt
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 10:11 PM
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11. I think it's what's known as dry humor, Zombie. ;-)
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Doctor Hurt Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 10:24 PM
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14. she gets bored quickly
.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 11:34 PM
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36. That's what happens when you grow up on Nintendo. nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 10:17 PM
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13. Now see, there's a can do attitude.
:)
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:41 AM
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41. Right, because Aids or some other sexually transmitted disease is just a casual matter?
n/t
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Yon_Yonson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 10:01 PM
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4. Just another family values guy ... so many ... hard to keep track!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 10:02 PM
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5. She knew his 'record' with women before they got married
If I were her, I'd keep the gynecologist on Speed Dial.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 10:04 PM
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6. I wouldn't piss in Ahnuld's mouth if his teeth were on fire.
Harsh and graphic, but there it is.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 10:30 PM
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17. What if his teeth weren't on fire

And you really had to go bad?
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 10:32 PM
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20. Well... I might have to reconsider. n/t
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 10:06 PM
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7. her kitkat too!
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 10:10 PM
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9. I would posit that even protected sex while cheating presents a health risk to the spouse.
The emotional tool can lead to suicides, depression, substance abuse, panic attacks and so forth.
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 10:11 PM
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10. I assume people showed the same concern for Hillary Clintons or Mrs. Edwardshealth
I don't care for the guy but this comes across as disingenuous.
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MrsBrady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 10:16 PM
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12. I don't care for Arnold much to begin with
Edited on Wed May-18-11 10:16 PM by MrsBrady
and I think my point is to raise awareness that cheaters create health risks.

And I do like the Clintons, but yes, even Bill, was an ass.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 10:28 PM
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15. Receiving a BJ a couple of times is really low risk for transmission of STDs.
Especially when compared to unprotected sexual intercourse with multiple partners over the course of 25 years.

Not remotely comparable.
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 10:31 PM
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18. Because people who cheat do so with one women, one time?
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 10:33 PM
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22. I can't speak for everyone, but one at a time is the norm around my house /nt
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 10:34 PM
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23. We are not talking about people who cheat in general. We ARE talking
about two specific people: Bill Clinton and Ahnuld the Sperminator.

And YOU are changing the subject. Nice try. I think you'd be happier elsewhere. I don't play with orcs.
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 10:36 PM
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27. Once cheating has been established it can be assumed to be more than a one time thing
I'm pretty sure bill has had sex with more than two women since he got married. Frankly I don't care but all this handwringing over disease *only* when a republican does it is disingenuous.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 10:39 PM
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29. WAHHHHHH, Billy did it, too, Mom!!!
Your attempt to deflect attention from Ahnuld's chronic philandering and prevarication by pointing at a Democrat is so typical of, well.........well I think you and I both know exactly who it is typical of.
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 10:42 PM
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30. Was doing nothing of the sort
merely pointing out that selective handwringing is silly and disingenuous.

Surely you agree.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 10:33 PM
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21. Papiloma virus

The insidious thing about promiscuous oral sex is that it poses a low risk to MEN who receive it, but is a vector for those conditions that don't affect men all that much.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 10:36 PM
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26. I do know a thing or two about infectious diseases. Relatively speaking,
what Schwarzenegger did was WAAAAAYYYYYYYY riskier for Maria than what Clinton did and the risk that posed to Hillary.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 10:51 PM
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31. oh, yes, put in terms of relative risk, yes

The tendency is for folks to think oral sex is risk free.

But I do not know the numbers.
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 10:37 PM
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28. Don't you know? Only republican politicians can contract STDs
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MrsBrady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 11:16 PM
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34. ok I hear you, but
Edited on Wed May-18-11 11:25 PM by MrsBrady
I meant a general comparison.....and besides I didn't make the original comparison.

I love Bill, have his autograph, but he acted like an ass...at least once that we know of.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 10:30 PM
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16. Clinton didn't knock anyone up, and Eliz. Edwards was already sick
with cancer so wondering about an additional STD on top of that was kind of moot.
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 10:32 PM
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19. You can contract STDs without getting the women pregnant
it's true, look it up.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 10:34 PM
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24. Not if you wash with Coca-Cola

Maybe DU needs a sex ed forum...
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 10:35 PM
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25. I know that, but generally, outsiders don't start wondering about STDs
until there's clear evidence that no condoms were used (like a baby).
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 07:05 AM
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47. The cancer made it worse, not moot
She was struggling to survive and I think her medicines could well have made her immune system less active. I'm not a nurse or doctor, but I assume her illness and treatment made her more vulnerable.
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 08:27 AM
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49. It's pretty sick the way some people are twisting that
"no see it was ok because she had cancer and was already dying, that way the cheating and possible STDs weren't such a big deal".

Wow.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 09:38 AM
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50. First of all, try again--look at the question YOU asked
I didn't justify the response, I simply answered your question about why there wasn't as much concern for the health of HC and EE. :eyes:
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 02:23 PM
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61. So people with cancer can't get sick?
Where did you go to school?
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 02:48 PM
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64. Goodness. This is a waste of time
have a nice day! :hi:
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 05:10 PM
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65. Adios
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 09:40 AM
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51. It is very sursprising to me that people are doing that
I had always suspected that the reason so few were willing to believe the stories when they first came out even though there were some reasons to believe it - mainly the videos being taken from his site as soon as the allegations were in the NE, was because it was difficult to believe that he would not be even closer and more supportive of his wife during her recovery than at any other time.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 02:38 PM
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63. I doubt they had sex at all which was probably the problem. n/t
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:28 PM
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68. I suspect that you are wrong
Edited on Thu May-19-11 06:34 PM by karynnj
One of the many poignant things that Elizabeth spoke of I think on the last show she did with LK was when she spoke of her desision to divorce/seperate from Edwards.


EDWARDS: Yes. That's right.

KING: Well, what do you do about affection?

EDWARDS: I get -- you know, sort of -- that's a really good question, I think, and something that I thought about and makes -- and that does make me sad to think that -- that I -- you know, I may live out the rest of my days -- and the likelihood is that I'll live out the rest of my days without someone who --

KING: Holding you.

EDWARDS: Huh?

KING: Holding you.

EDWARDS: Holding me. Holding me in a passionate way. I've got -- I mean, I get more hugs than you could possibly imagine. I can't go through the airport -- you know, the TSA woman this morning at the airport, you know, if I -- and if I say go, I get lots of hugs from people and they really mean it, and it means a lot to me. But that -- that different kind of affection.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1008/11/lkl.01.html

In 2006, she considered herself in remission and healthy enough to endure the rigors of a Presidential campaign. Clearly from all that happened later - most of which we hopefully will never know as we know more than we should already, there were problems in the marriage. This was a point where John Edwards should have subliminated ANY of his needs - political or physical to support his wife of 30 years and his young children. The fact is that he was not the frontrunner and was extremely unlikely to win. His best chance was likely to announce that he was not running - putting family first.If HRC won, as was most likely from the 2005 perspective, he then could have been a realistic VP - especially if Elizabeth were genuinely cancer free as they then thought.
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whopis01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 08:55 PM
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69. wow... putting your wife at risk when she undergoing cancer treament is ok????
because she is probably going to die anyway?

So what the fuck - why wait to fuck around? What's it going to hurt? She's just another woman with cancer. Oh, the treatments she is getting might lower her immune system but she's only going to hang on another few years at best anyway. A horny guy can't be expected to wait around that long for his wife to go away, right?

That is the most insensitive post I have ever read on this forum.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 07:00 AM
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46. Many did mention Elizabeth Edwards' already fragile health
- but only after people began to believe the accusation was true.
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 11:05 PM
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32. Do not get too upset about Arnold, those are the Republican values!
Cheat on your wife is ok! But if a Democrat does it, time for impeachment.

Do not give those assholes a forum to retaliate!

I am so angry right now, I cannot think coherently, thanks for your understanding.
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8 track mind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 11:24 PM
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35. k&R
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:36 AM
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40. maria?
welcome!
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:42 AM
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42. ...
:spray:
:thumbsup:
:rofl:
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:45 AM
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43. LOL
:rofl:
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:48 AM
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45. ...
:spray:

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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:46 AM
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44. whoa
:o :crazy:
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NoGOPZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:52 AM
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59. I wish my first post was so memorable. nt
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 07:09 AM
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48. Many people have called her a whore
Now she's a diseased whore? Nice.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 09:46 AM
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53. I think it is more to do with his calluous disregard for EITHER woman...
..and their health...If you are going to screw around the least you could do is use protection...and frankly if I was the dude that was being offered some extra-curricular love from a person that KNEW i was married, I would be DOUBLY worried about potential health issues...

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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 09:44 AM
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52. I thought about that too. I hope she didn't end up with an incurable STD
like Neil Bush's wife . . .
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athenasatanjesus Donating Member (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 09:51 AM
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54. Perhaps his cheating is the reason for her anorexia as well
So that's two serious health risks.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:07 AM
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56. "I'm sure she's got good heath care." No kidding! She's RICH as CROESUS.
Edited on Thu May-19-11 10:08 AM by WinkyDink
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:11 AM
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57. now the maid is in the spotlight.
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eallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:47 AM
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58. And his girlfriends' health. They're put to the same risk as his wife, right?
Disease is equal opportunity. It doesn't care about matrimonial ties.

:hippie:
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StarburstClock Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:53 AM
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60. Plus, that guy chasing him was made of liquid metal!
It's all a show, a performance.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 02:36 PM
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62. She married down and I'm sure the Kennedys' told her so.
She stepped into that world with eyes wide open, I'm sure.
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Lionessa Donating Member (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:14 PM
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66. What you say is true, and I'm certainly no fan of AS, but
Maria is not an idiot, nor a head in the sand kinda gal from anything I've seen. Arnold was a womanizer before, he was known to be a womanizer during, and I would find it hard to believe she wasn't aware and/or strongly suspicious for quite some time. I feel certain, okay I hope for certain, she was smart enough to protect herself by demanding he use protections or by withholding sex altogether.
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