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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 10:58 AM
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Cornel West Worries About Barack Obama's "Kansas Influence"
Jonathan Chait Cornel West Uncovers The Disturbing Truth

You are familiar with the hypothesis that Barack Obama genetically inherited a disposition toward radical Kenyan anti-colonial thinking through his absent father. Now comes Cornel West, inevitably expressing his bitter disappointment with Obama's corporate sellout ways, explicating the opposite hypothesis:

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He's a secret believer in Kansan pro-colonialism!

I also enjoyed this part of West's analysis about Obama's personnel choices:

“I was thinking maybe he has at least some progressive populist instincts that could become more manifest after the cautious policies of being a senator and working with Lieberman as his mentor,” he says. “But it became very clear when I looked at the neoliberal economic team. The first announcement of Summers and Geithner I went ballistic. I said, ‘Oh, my God, I have really been misled at a very deep level.’ And the same is true for Dennis Ross and the other neo-imperial elites. I said, ‘I have been thoroughly misled, all this populist language is just a facade. I was under the impression that he might bring in the voices of brother Joseph Stiglitz and brother Paul Krugman. I figured, OK, given the structure of constraints of the capitalist democratic procedure that’s probably the best he could do. But at least he would have some voices concerned about working people, dealing with issues of jobs and downsizing and banks, some semblance of democratic accountability for Wall Street oligarchs and corporate plutocrats who are just running amuck. I was completely wrong.”

Summers and Krugman may have some personality and tactical differences, but the difference between supporting a $1.2 trillion fiscal stimulus and supporting an $800 billion fiscal stimulus is not exactly the difference between corporate oligarchy and socialism.

Exactly!

David Weigel: Cornel West Worries About Barack Obama's "Kansas Influence"

Jonathan Chait is right. Cornel West's interview with Chris Hedges gives us -- at last! -- a lefty analogue to the far right's worries about whether or not Kenyan DNA did a number on Barack Obama's patriotism.

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Now: Around 47 percent of that is (or was) unmistakably true, as anyone who's read Dreams from My Father can tell you. Obama will be the first person to admit that he never felt at home in white or in black culture. But here we go:

It is understandable. He feels most comfortable with upper middle-class white and Jewish men who consider themselves very smart, very savvy and very effective in getting what they want. He’s got two homes. He has got his family and whatever challenges go on there, and this other home. Larry Summers blows his mind because he’s so smart. He’s got Establishment connections. He’s embracing me. It is this smartness, this truncated brilliance, that titillates and stimulates brother Barack and makes him feel at home.

This doesn't strike me as a good catch-all explanation for why Obama appointed a non-socialist economic team. If you want to be around smart Jewish men, and you want to staff an administration, you've got your pick of academic socialists. No; this strikes me as an over-reading of why Obama chose Summers, who was he key figure in a decade-old feud with West. (Summers criticized the seriousness of West's work after he released an album, and West hot-footed it to Princeton.) Obama's blunders on economic policy (I'd rank the re-appointment of Bernanke high up there) make less sense if viewed as the result of cultural conditioning, more sense if viewed as fealty to the people Obama needs to get re-elected. I guess it's nice to have West out there, though, demonstrating from another angle how useful the analyze-Obama-through-genetic code style of punditry is.

:rofl:


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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 10:59 AM
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1. unrec
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:00 AM
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2. .
Brilliant!

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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:50 AM
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24. rec...nt
Sid
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:02 AM
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3. "He feels most comfortable with upper middle-class white and Jewish men "
riiiiiggggghhhhtttt. What a nut.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:10 AM
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5. West has jumped the shark...
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:39 AM
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21. He hasn't jumped the shark
West supported Nader in 2000 and 2004. He saw Obama a ticket to more influence.

He's returning to his Nader roots.

http://www.newprogs.org/founding

http://www.newprogs.org/strategy

http://www.newprogs.org/steering-committee



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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:29 AM
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15. The ironic thing is that CW is projecting
Cornel West's base of support comes from wealthy white leftists.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:08 AM
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4. Not really getting it, are you?
Do you have any ideas about the men you are quoting and laughing with?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:18 AM
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:22 AM
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12. What do I know?
Since you're an authority on what I know.

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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:25 AM
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13. +1
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:21 AM
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11. Would
you like to enlighten me?

Mr. President “Barack Obama”, Please Quench Dr. Cornel West’s Thirst…

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Dr. West’s feeling of betrayal deserve a bit more attention. While presidential critique is, as I said, necessary, could it be that Dr. West’s feelings of betrayal are altogether more personal? Dr. West describes President Obama as a Black puppet of Wall Street oligarchs and the corporate. This could very well be true. These are not sentiments I have not shared myself. If someone asked me do I think the president could be bought/has been bought, I would say yes (though, perhaps I’m not the person to ask because I think anyone can be bought). Still, if this is the case, if President Obama is but a Black puppet, he and Dr. West are sharing the same sad strings as it is not appreciably more righteous to, for the right price, profess to the offspring of those same oligarchs and elite from the tony confines of Old Nassau.

So, let’s look a little deeper. 65 events on the president’s behalf. 65 times, Dr. West stood up and supported “change we can believe in”, putting his name and reputation on the line. Were this 65 acts of selfless support or could there also have been some personal incentive for supporting Barack Obama? Did Dr. West have anything to gain personally from a potential Obama victory? I’d say having the ear of the president has a certain appeal. But now, presidency securely in Barack Obama’s hands, Dr. West is not with the in-crowd. Perhaps President Obama is straying from his message and that pains Dr. West, but he’s also straying from the unwritten–but equally painful–rule: I scratch your back and you let me stunt with you in the White House. Make no mistake: Academe is only smarter than high school; it is no less petty. Dr. West used his considerable clout to support the president and has not gotten his propers. This isn’t just a “poor people got overlooked” problem; this is an “I got overlooked” problem.

If President Obama conducted his presidency no differently, but kept the confidence of Dr. West–or Michael Eric Dyson or Tavis Smiley for that matter–would we be rehashing this “Obama’s a little too down with white folks” meme?


Oh I get it: West is making a complete jackass of himself.

Is it because West is black that makes his self-absorbed screed righteous?

Give me a fucking break!

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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:11 AM
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6. West has reduced himself to basically calling Barack Obama an "uncle Tom".
Has he always been such a self important jackass or did he just recently turn into one?
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 12:13 PM
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29. No. Basically he is saying Obama doesn't get it.
Neither does the element of DU that doesn't mind calling West names because they feel like West is calling Obama names.

Try to read the post and understand. We won't come together as a nation of many races until there is understanding.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:14 AM
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7. Um, I think the Wall Street and Washington influence is far more damaging
That being said, everything Cornell West makes sense. Two men can disagree, and in effect, 'both be right'

It is the GOP that is fanning the flames of this "schism"

They never liked or cared for West until he could be used as their pawn against Obama

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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:15 AM
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8. Cornel West is a jackass who keeps embarassing himself.
He's jealous and upset that he doesn't have a role in the administration, and doing a lot to prove why he doesn't.

What an egotistical blowhard.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:21 AM
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10. You know, ProSense, I've asked a question on other threads that simply doesn't get answered.
I've asked people to document the claims that Cornel West was anything other than a self-proclaimed advisor to Barack Obama--

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Barack_Obama_presidential_campaign_staff_members,_2008#Early_advisors

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_presidential_primary_campaign,_2008

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Cornel_West



I've asked people to document a single contribution that Cornel West made to Barack Obama, cash, or in kind--

http://www.fec.gov/disclosurep/pnational.do?candId=P80003338&electionYr=2008&searchType=&searchSQLType=&searchKeyword=

And you know what???

Bupkus......
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:36 AM
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19. Crickets
Not just with the Obama administration, but what the hell has Cornel West actually done except run his mouth?
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:52 AM
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25. Newsmeat on Cornel West...
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 12:00 PM
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27. Lotsa hot air, and no sourced claims....n/t
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peace4ever Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:26 AM
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14. No criticism will be tolerated let alone heard, by some.
Too bad as that is one of the best ways to improve oneself.

At least that is what I teach my children.

:hi:
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:33 AM
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16. How does calling Obama an Uncle Tom
help him to improve himself? Especially when it's bullshit!? CW has ruined any chance of a meaningful discussion with Pres. Obama.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:44 AM
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22. What a stupid ass statement. People like you seem to forget that this
president is multiracial. So implying that he's an Uncle Tom is just laughable, even for the clownish Dr. West.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 12:29 PM
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30. now you hate clowns? what about little kids birthday parties!1!1 them's, them's...
fightin woids!!!
PUT UP YER DUKES!!1!

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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 12:34 PM
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31. Nuts! I tell ya!
:rofl:
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:34 AM
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17. Kick and Rec...
For rationality.

West's hyperbolic rantings just make him, and the "thruth to power" amen chorus, look silly. nothing more.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:36 AM
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18. teh upper middle class white jews? i knew they were behind this!
:sarcasm:
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:47 AM
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23. Aren't they always behind everything?
:crazy:
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:39 AM
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20. I like both men, but unfortunately they had a doomed relationship from the start
West, whatever you think about him, is a romantic when it comes to politics: he romanticizes a kind of idealized political field as surely as he romanticizes the "democracy" of jazz; Pres Obama has romantic leanings, and often speaks in a language of romance about politics, but is more of an idealistic pragmatist or a pragmatic idealist.

Neither man is as great as his supporters say--and both would admit it--and neither is as craven or vengeful as his detractors would claim.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:59 AM
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26. Great description
I like Professor West, too, but you really nailed how he feels when it comes to politics. Definitely overly idealistic.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 12:13 PM
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28. West
can articulate idealism without being offensive. Of late, he's sounding more and more bitter and his criticisms have become character assassinations.

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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 12:54 PM
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32. Hey, a Kansas influence -- a Wichita aircraft worker influence that is --
can be a Machinist Union's influence.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 12:55 PM
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33. Obama's Left Flank
Obama's Left Flank

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There's a lot in there about Obama's inability to return phone-calls, ("I said a prayer on the phone for him, especially before a debate. And I never got a call back.") his unwillingness to part with inauguration tickets, ("And then as it turns out with the inauguration I couldn't get a ticket with my mother and my brother. I said this is very strange.") and passive aggressive telepathy, ("I think my dear brother Barack Obama has a certain fear of free black men.")

But there's very little in the way of specific, detailed policy critiques. Of what little there is, I don't know how you support a president and don't expect him to "head of the American killing machine." That's what a Commander In Chief is. I can't think of a single president, who was more committed to loving the weak and the vulnerable first. In specific, practical terms, I'm not even sure that it's a good idea, nor do I know what it means.

Was there something more Obama should have done to get a public option? Should he not have traded the Bush tax cuts for extending unemployment benefits? Did Obama settle too quickly on a small stimulus package? Was he wrong to allow the GOP to shut down planned parenthood in DC? Is the strategy of increased drone attacks in Pakistan inhumane? Was the financial reform bill he signed ultimately too weak?

I think all of this is fair game. I think Charles Ferguson's critique in Inside Job was really solid. I think calling someone a "black mascot" or a "black puppet" because they don't agree with you is much less so.







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